2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

[LloydFree]

I find it interesting that many posters feel that Randle would be a great get, but there have no reports of any teams in the top 10, "targeting" Julius Randle. Embiid has Cleveland and Milwaukee. Parker has Milwaukee and Utah. Wiggins has Philadelphia. Exum has Orlando and Los Angeles. Smart has Orlando and Sacramento. Gordon has Boston. Even McDermott and Stauskas have Charlotte.
Not one report of any team in the top 10 targeting Randle, but the fans believe he would be a steal. Strange.

your hate for julius randle is legendary

Actually I don't hate Julius Randle. Based on his interviews he seems like one of the most likeable players coming out this year. I just don't think he is a special player or will be a difference maker in the pros.
I just don't want to see the 76ers select the next Kenny Thomas or Clarence Weatherspoon and spend the next 5 years trying to justify the pick, because he was a lottery selection.

[Negrodamus]

I find it interesting that many posters feel that Randle would be a great get, but there have been no reports of any teams in the top 10, "targeting" Julius Randle. Embiid has Cleveland and Milwaukee. Parker has Milwaukee and Utah. Wiggins has Philadelphia. Exum has Orlando and Los Angeles. Smart has Orlando and Sacramento. Gordon has Boston. Even McDermott and Stauskas have Charlotte.
Not one report of any team in the top 10 targeting Randle, but the fans believe he would be a steal. Strange.

I'm not sure what this means. The Celtics are bringing him in for an individual workout. Does that mean they are targeting him?

[sixers23]

I we pass on randle at 10 I'd be pretty pissed unless we got Embiid at 3

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I just think people are sleeping on Randle because he lacks the ideal measurables. He's an explosive player, he just doesn't play way above the rim like other power forwards. I think with Randle at the end of the day is, can the man play the game of basketball? There are plenty of players with insane measurables that can't play the game to save their life (Jeremy Evans, Anthony Randolph, Perry Jones). Randle is undersized, there are questions about facets of his game but what isn't questioned is his work ethic and his overall basketball IQ. Julius Randle will find a way to get on the court in the NBA. Not sure if he's worth a top ten pick, but if we are up and he is still available at ten when we pick, I will be all for drafting him.

[Kobblehead]

I find it interesting that many posters feel that Randle would be a great get, but there have been no reports of any teams in the top 10, "targeting" Julius Randle. Embiid has Cleveland and Milwaukee. Parker has Milwaukee and Utah. Wiggins has Philadelphia. Exum has Orlando and Los Angeles. Smart has Orlando and Sacramento. Gordon has Boston. Even McDermott and Stauskas have Charlotte.
Not one report of any team in the top 10 targeting Randle, but the fans believe he would be a steal. Strange.

What is strange is the fact that you can't read statsheets and somehow thought it was possible for Carlos Boozer to shoot 16% from 3-10 feet.

[76ciology]

Maybe Randle's agent exaggerated his injury and tanked his workouts because he wants to play with us..

MCW
Wiggins
Thad
Randle
Noel

Damn..

[FlightBrothers]

I find it interesting that many posters feel that Randle would be a great get, but there have no reports of any teams in the top 10, "targeting" Julius Randle. Embiid has Cleveland and Milwaukee. Parker has Milwaukee and Utah. Wiggins has Philadelphia. Exum has Orlando and Los Angeles. Smart has Orlando and Sacramento. Gordon has Boston. Even McDermott and Stauskas have Charlotte.
Not one report of any team in the top 10 targeting Randle, but the fans believe he would be a steal. Strange.

your hate for julius randle is legendary

Actually I don't hate Julius Randle. Based on his interviews he seems lime one of the most likeable players coming out this year. I just don't think he is a special player or will be a difference maker in the pros.
I just don't want to see the 76ers select the next Kenny Thomas or Clarence Weatherspoon and spend the next 5 years trying to justify the pick, because he was a lottery selection.

The #10 pick while it may be scrutinized some depending on performance will always be overshadowed by who we pick at #3. If we pick a stud at #3 and randle is an average prospect....fine...he has a nose to rebound, a high motor and has leadership qualities....if our pick at #3 is a bust and randle is an ok prospect...believe me everyone will be focusing on the #3 pick flopping...the #3 pick is the one we can't miss on....

I understand not wanting Randle at #3 but I can not understand why anyone would pass on this guy at #10...

Measurables are importantant but heart and desire is every bit as important...

[MountainDrew]

I'd love to get Randle at #10. I feel like people are judging him too harshly after not living up to the hype he had earlier in the year. I think with single coverage in the nba and better spacing, he's a tough guard. And he will always be able to get rebounds and compete, he would fit nicely as a muscle man next to Noel.


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[Negrodamus]

Maybe Randle's agent exaggerated his injury and tanked his workouts because he wants to play with us..

MCW
Wiggins
Thad
Randle
Noel

Damn..

Not a made three pointer in sight.

I jest. That is a very impressive young team (although Young and Randle are a bit redundant).

[Sixersftw]

Well Thad is obviously going to be subbed out for a guy that can stretch the floor. With that in mind that is a very balanced offense with a clear 1/2/3 option. Randle is a bit meh defensively but everywhere else there would be plus defenders. Obviously this is best case scenario I'm thinking but this haul would make me very happy on draft night.

[Eyeamok]

Our GM drafted MCW 11th in a weak draft class. I have to believe in a strong draft he will be able to get a quality player at pick #10.

Where would MCW go in this draft and where would Randle have gone (assuming he had played a year in college) in last years draft?

Kind of reminds me of the Jared Sullinger, situation. Someone always falls.

[EBrandEra]

If the Sixers got Wiggins at No. 3 and Randle at No. 10, then they definitely would be getting higher value from their picks than expected.

IMO, you would have to take Randle at No. 10, if he's still on the board there.

Even if he has a foot injury, it likely isn't going to affect his long term future and the Sixers are not looking to fill an immediate need. They are looking long-term.

It would be a nice 1st round haul to get Wiggins and Randle.

[Eyeamok]

Maybe Randle's agent exaggerated his injury and tanked his workouts because he wants to play with us..

MCW
Wiggins
Thad
Randle
Noel

Damn..

Not a made three pointer in sight.

I jest. That is a very impressive young team (although Young and Randle are a bit redundant).

So we should be in the running next year for a center. Move Noel to PF, have Randle come off the bench (after a year in the leage) as the PF/C of the second unit. Spend all your second round draft picks on Kyle Korver. Have Thad come off the bench too. Problem solved.

[snoopdogg88]

if the Sixers end up with Parker/Wiggins + Randle + whatever shooters we target in the 2nd round , we are going to see some serious improvement next year.

Like 35-40 wins in the awful Eastern Conference

[Eyeamok]

if the Sixers end up with Parker/Wiggins + Randle + whatever shooters we target in the 2nd round , we are going to see some serious improvement next year.

Like 35-40 wins in the awful Eastern Conference

Not next year. It takes a while to get used to the rigors of NBA life. We will have 3 rookies probably starting.
Even when we had veterans ET, Hawes and Thad playing we had to scramble for wins. Our rookies will be better than ET and Hawes eventually but it will take a season on two for that to happen.

Looking forward to more lottery madness next year.

[James40]

If the Sixers got Wiggins at No. 3 and Randle at No. 10, then they definitely would be getting higher value from their picks than expected.

IMO, you would have to take Randle at No. 10, if he's still on the board there.

Even if he has a foot injury, it likely isn't going to affect his long term future and the Sixers are not looking to fill an immediate need. They are looking long-term.

It would be a nice 1st round haul to get Wiggins and Randle.

I read he was having a screw taken out of his foot from a previous surgery, that's not a big deal and its normal if that's the case, when I broke my ankle I had a plate with 6 screws installed to heal and had it removed a year later. If hardware can be taken out it should be taken out.

[Iscull]

I just think people are sleeping on Randle because he lacks the ideal measurables. He's an explosive player, he just doesn't play way above the rim like other power forwards. I think with Randle at the end of the day is, can the man play the game of basketball? There are plenty of players with insane measurables that can't play the game to save their life (Jeremy Evans, Anthony Randolph, Perry Jones). Randle is undersized, there are questions about facets of his game but what isn't questioned is his work ethic and his overall basketball IQ. Julius Randle will find a way to get on the court in the NBA. Not sure if he's worth a top ten pick, but if we are up and he is still available at ten when we pick, I will be all for drafting him.

+1. While measurables are "sexy", sometimes a guy can just flat out play basketball. I look at Randle and say if he can develop into a Zach Randolph (High Hopes) or David Lee (More Realistic) type of player, I'd be ecstatic. I think if were picking at 10, you go with Randle.

[Iscull]

Maybe Randle's agent exaggerated his injury and tanked his workouts because he wants to play with us..

MCW
Wiggins
Thad
Randle
Noel

Damn..

Not a made three pointer in sight.

I jest. That is a very impressive young team (although Young and Randle are a bit redundant).

So we should be in the running next year for a center. Move Noel to PF, have Randle come off the bench (after a year in the leage) as the PF/C of the second unit. Spend all your second round draft picks on Kyle Korver. Have Thad come off the bench too. Problem solved.

You had me until Korver. I agree with getting a center, maybe Tavares or McGary in the 2nd. The rest of the 2nds can be spent on shooters/role players who can come off the bench.

To me it's pointless to wast draft picks on someone like Korver when we are trying to develop a young core, not win right away. With young players you have growing pains, but ultimately a very bright future.

[Eyeamok]

I just think people are sleeping on Randle because he lacks the ideal measurables. He's an explosive player, he just doesn't play way above the rim like other power forwards. I think with Randle at the end of the day is, can the man play the game of basketball? There are plenty of players with insane measurables that can't play the game to save their life (Jeremy Evans, Anthony Randolph, Perry Jones). Randle is undersized, there are questions about facets of his game but what isn't questioned is his work ethic and his overall basketball IQ. Julius Randle will find a way to get on the court in the NBA. Not sure if he's worth a top ten pick, but if we are up and he is still available at ten when we pick, I will be all for drafting him.

+1. While measurables are "sexy", sometimes a guy can just flat out play basketball. I look at Randle and say if he can develop into a Zach Randolph (High Hopes) or David Lee (More Realistic) type of player, I'd be ecstatic. I think if were picking at 10, you go with Randle.

Randle if I am not mistaken, has a shorter reach than Randolph..but he seems to have a better attitude.

[Negrodamus]

Our GM drafted MCW 11th in a weak draft class. I have to believe in a strong draft he will be able to get a quality player at pick #10.

Where would MCW go in this draft and where would Randle have gone (assuming he had played a year in college) in last years draft?

Kind of reminds me of the Jared Sullinger, situation. Someone always falls.

Randle would have been top 5 last year in my opinion.