Official #2 Pick Thread - Ford #7: Parker

[paulpressey25]

Still don't think you can have a good backcourt without another player capable of being a full time ball handler next to Smart. Wolters would work, someone like Middleton would be atrocious IMO.

Giannis can handle some of the duties, he's got point forward potential

Wolters/Smart/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a pretty sexy line up imo

That would be an awesome lineup. Now if we could get Smart for Knight and Henson, which is the hard part

[Ayt]

So what scares people the most:

Embiid - Back Issue
Parker - Broke same foot twice
Wiggins - Unknown potential

This is why im still on the Wiggins train. At worst he will be Derozen.

Didn't Parker only have the one foot injury?

[Ayt]

Still don't think you can have a good backcourt without another player capable of being a full time ball handler next to Smart. Wolters would work, someone like Middleton would be atrocious IMO.

Giannis can handle some of the duties, he's got point forward potential

Wolters/Smart/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a pretty sexy line up imo

That would be an awesome lineup. Now if we could get Smart for Knight and Henson, which is the hard part

Yeah. That would be a fun team to watch grow. That lineup could be excellent defensively with tons of potential offensively as well.

[bigkurty]

Yeah, that would be a dream offseason roster adjustment.

[Baddy Chuck]

Still don't think you can have a good backcourt without another player capable of being a full time ball handler next to Smart. Wolters would work, someone like Middleton would be atrocious IMO.

Giannis can handle some of the duties, he's got point forward potential

Wolters/Smart/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a pretty sexy line up imo

I think that lineup would work, I think you sub Middleton for Wolters it becomes questionable. Unless youthink Giannis is Scottie Pippen and Parker is Durant, which I do not. Granted that lineup could be very questionable if Wolters doesn't find his jumpshot again. Smart and Wolters of last season would be the worst shooting backcourt in the league.

[mlloyd10]

So what scares people the most:

Embiid - Back Issue
Parker - Broke same foot twice
Wiggins - Unknown potential

This is why im still on the Wiggins train. At worst he will be Derozen.

Didn't Parker only have the one foot injury?

Nope, he broke the same foot twice

[Ayt]

So what scares people the most:

Embiid - Back Issue
Parker - Broke same foot twice
Wiggins - Unknown potential

This is why im still on the Wiggins train. At worst he will be Derozen.

Didn't Parker only have the one foot injury?

Nope, he broke the same foot twice

He had a stress fracture prior to his senior season. When did the other injury happen?

[crkone]

I think one was a toe from being stepped on that healed in literally 2 days (which he played on). Second MRI on toes showed no fracture. Heel was also fractured for a period, unrelated to the toe.

[Frank Nova]

The Parker defense hate is annoying. All players have lapses on the defensive end. It's not uncommon in the least. He still made up 25% of Dukes team defensive rebounding per game, 15% of team steals per game and 41% of team blocks per game. You can't contribute that much AND be this perceived "sieve" I keep reading on here. Despite his lazy moments, he was active on that end of the floor and generated tons of transition offense from his defensive play. God forbid he didn't dominate both ends of the floor every possession of every game.

Makes me sick the perception some of you have on this topic. Like Andrew Wiggins was the lock down defender no one could score on? No he wasn't anything like that. His length and athleticism projects him to be a potential great on ball defender, but Parker's length and athleticism projects him to be a major liability? It really just makes the Parker haters sound like nothing more than Parker haters.

[JayMKE]

Still don't think you can have a good backcourt without another player capable of being a full time ball handler next to Smart. Wolters would work, someone like Middleton would be atrocious IMO.

Giannis can handle some of the duties, he's got point forward potential

Wolters/Smart/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a pretty sexy line up imo

I think that lineup would work, I think you sub Middleton for Wolters it becomes questionable. Unless youthink Giannis is Scottie Pippen and Parker is Durant, which I do not. Granted that lineup could be very questionable if Wolters doesn't find his jumpshot again. Smart and Wolters of last season would be the worst shooting backcourt in the league.

The great thing about Smart, Giannis, and Parker is their versatility; there all guys that cause match up problems and if you did have to adjust to match up(I'm hoping they would force to other to adjust) they're versatile enough slide them down or up a spot on both sides of the ball. Middleton would be a valuable guy just because of his shooting ability. I really like that core.

[raferfenix]

Still don't think you can have a good backcourt without another player capable of being a full time ball handler next to Smart. Wolters would work, someone like Middleton would be atrocious IMO.

Giannis can handle some of the duties, he's got point forward potential

Wolters/Smart/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a pretty sexy line up imo

That would be an awesome lineup. Now if we could get Smart for Knight and Henson, which is the hard part

If we're sold on Smart I might include Middleton in a package with Knight and Henson to get a deal done.

Not sure if the Kings trade #8 if they're not bringing Sanders back. Lakers might bite on #7 for that though, especially if they're still trying to retain cap space.

Knight / Kobe / Middleton / Henson / Gasol would give them young legs to plug in to the starting lineup to say the least.

[mlloyd10]

Didn't Parker only have the one foot injury?

Nope, he broke the same foot twice

He had a stress fracture prior to his senior season. When did the other injury happen?[/quote

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basket ... ri-reveals

I can only find this one, but they kept saying on national shows that he injured the same foot twice

[Max Green]

I think one was a toe from being stepped on that healed in literally 2 days (which he played on). Second MRI on toes showed no fracture. Heel was also fractured for a period, unrelated to the toe.

Yep, he also played on the fractured Heel helping lead the U-17 team to the Gold Medal. Once he let the Heel properly heal, he came back in early December and played the rest of his Senior year a long with last year at Duke without missing another game.

[Max Green]

Nope, he broke the same foot twice

He had a stress fracture prior to his senior season. When did the other injury happen?[/quote

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basket ... ri-reveals

I can only find this one, but they kept saying on national shows that he injured the same foot twice

They are talking about the toe injury which incurred on the same right foot he later suffered the heel fracture on.

[eagle13]

not a proposal but a question

Unsubstantiated rumors suggest Cavs like Wiggins & Parker as much as Embiid -
would cavs or bucks do - #1 & Zeller for #2 & Sanders & filler where needed

[Max Green]

not a proposal but a question

Unsubstantiated rumors suggest Cavs like Wiggins & Parker as much as Embiid -
would cavs or bucks do - #1 & Zeller for #2 & Sanders & filler where needed

I think the Cavs would do that deal but Tyler Zeller blows, I'd rather take a chance on FATS Bennett or Waiters if I was forced to make that trade.

[cinematographer]

Spurs are Exhibit A why I don't want Jabari.

[cinematographer]

not a proposal but a question

Unsubstantiated rumors suggest Cavs like Wiggins & Parker as much as Embiid -
would cavs or bucks do - #1 & Zeller for #2 & Sanders & filler where needed

I'd rather have 2 and Sanders than 1 and Zeller.

[wisconsinjr]

Giannis can handle some of the duties, he's got point forward potential

Wolters/Smart/Giannis/Parker/Sanders is a pretty sexy line up imo

I think that lineup would work, I think you sub Middleton for Wolters it becomes questionable. Unless youthink Giannis is Scottie Pippen and Parker is Durant, which I do not. Granted that lineup could be very questionable if Wolters doesn't find his jumpshot again. Smart and Wolters of last season would be the worst shooting backcourt in the league.

The great thing about Smart, Giannis, and Parker is their versatility; there all guys that cause match up problems and if you did have to adjust to match up(I'm hoping they would force to other to adjust) they're versatile enough slide them down or up a spot on both sides of the ball. Middleton would be a valuable guy just because of his shooting ability. I really like that core.

So much this. I like Wiggins a sliver ahead of Parker, but I would LOVE watching this team grow together for four years. And you can really inject some new juice by adding in fiery competitors like Smart and Parker.

But realistically ... I don't see the 8 trade happening for Smart. Kings I think would just grab him there anyway if he's still on the board at that point I think. I also think Hammond is eying Randle not Smart if that trade were made anyway - which, take that however you like.

And ... It's rare that a draft day trade "rumor" from 2 weeks out actually goes down that way. Too good to be true me thinks. But man, that's a nice squad to think about.

[jakecronus8]

The Parker defense hate is annoying. All players have lapses on the defensive end. It's not uncommon in the least. He still made up 25% of Dukes team defensive rebounding per game, 15% of team steals per game and 41% of team blocks per game. You can't contribute that much AND be this perceived "sieve" I keep reading on here. Despite his lazy moments, he was active on that end of the floor and generated tons of transition offense from his defensive play. God forbid he didn't dominate both ends of the floor every possession of every game.

Makes me sick the perception some of you have on this topic. Like Andrew Wiggins was the lock down defender no one could score on? No he wasn't anything like that. His length and athleticism projects him to be a potential great on ball defender, but Parker's length and athleticism projects him to be a major liability? It really just makes the Parker haters sound like nothing more than Parker haters.

Well for me personally, seeing is believing. Parker is not average or even below average on defense. Plain and simple he's a bad defender. His "lapses" are pretty damn often, and they are Gadzuric level bad quite often. He and Randle have got major work to do to even become slightly below average on that end.

As far as Wiggins is concerned, he's already a tremendous on the ball defender and sky is the limit on that end of the floor. If you're taking Parker you're doing so knowing that many nights he will be a nightmare matchup for opposing teams defensively and a complete liability on the other end. Watch the draft express breakdown for a few of the lowlights on Parker. Some are tough to watch.