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Post#1 » by Kilo » Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:45 pm

http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/ ... g_m_1.html


With July 1 approaching and bringing with it the start of the NBA's free agency period, Detroit Pistons forward/center Greg Monroe is anxiously awaiting the recruiting and signing process.

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As a restricted free agent, the 24-year-old Monroe said he doesn't know if he'll be moving on from Detroit, where he played his first four NBA seasons, or if he'll sign elsewhere. Ultimately, though, the Pistons will have final say, as they can retain Monroe by matching any offer he receives on the open market.

Still, Monroe expects there to be plenty calls.

"From what I have been told, it'll be like that (college recruiting) a little bit," Monroe said. "But the NBA has really strict rules and you can't talk about it until July 1. Different things come out about teams who are interested, but I won't know for sure until July 1 when I can actually talk to them."


While the Pelicans, with about $7 million in salary cap room, don't appear to have enough cap space to sign Monroe, a source said the team has made some initial inquiries to the Pistons about the possibility of working out a sign-and-trade deal.

The Los Angeles Lakers, Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs, Charlotte Hornets and Atlanta Hawks also figure to be in the running for Monroe, who is expected to garner a max contract.

"I'm hoping and praying that I will have some options," Monroe said without divulging any potential landing spots. "As it looks right now I will have some. But I am just preparing myself and doing the normal things that I would around this time, working out. And on July 1, I'll be with my agent and we'll go through the process together."


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Without giving it his full endorsement, Monroe believes he could fit in with Drummond and small forward Josh Smith to form a big front line.

The trio wasn't a good fit last season. But Van Gundy could change that.

"You never know because it's about to change again," Monroe said. "Last season we weren't as successful as we wanted to be, so it's hard to answer that question right now. But with new leadership, who knows what can happen."

Either way, Monroe seems content.

"Most people would rather, if possible, not to have to go through it and just re-sign with the team they are with so you can have some stability and be secure," he said. "Right now it's like the draft process all over again. You don't know if you will have to change cities or where you will end up. It's a good thing that there are teams out there that want me. But at the end of the day, if I didn't have to do it, I wouldn't have a problem with that either."


Maybe because he's talking to his hometown newspaper and not a Detroit based outlet, but it sounds to me that Greg wants out, but hedges because he ultimately knows Detroit could/will match and he'll need a sign and trade to get out of Detroit and into his desired landing spot. I think he feels that Smith isn't going anywhere and doesn't like any of the "solutions" that will entail to make it work.
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Post#2 » by DetroitSho » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:10 pm

Kilo wrote:http://www.nola.com/pelicans/index.ssf/2014/06/detroit_pistons_forward_greg_m_1.html


With July 1 approaching and bringing with it the start of the NBA's free agency period, Detroit Pistons forward/center Greg Monroe is anxiously awaiting the recruiting and signing process.

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As a restricted free agent, the 24-year-old Monroe said he doesn't know if he'll be moving on from Detroit, where he played his first four NBA seasons, or if he'll sign elsewhere. Ultimately, though, the Pistons will have final say, as they can retain Monroe by matching any offer he receives on the open market.

Still, Monroe expects there to be plenty calls.

"From what I have been told, it'll be like that (college recruiting) a little bit," Monroe said. "But the NBA has really strict rules and you can't talk about it until July 1. Different things come out about teams who are interested, but I won't know for sure until July 1 when I can actually talk to them."


While the Pelicans, with about $7 million in salary cap room, don't appear to have enough cap space to sign Monroe, a source said the team has made some initial inquiries to the Pistons about the possibility of working out a sign-and-trade deal.

The Los Angeles Lakers, Dallas Mavericks, San Antonio Spurs, Charlotte Hornets and Atlanta Hawks also figure to be in the running for Monroe, who is expected to garner a max contract.

"I'm hoping and praying that I will have some options," Monroe said without divulging any potential landing spots. "As it looks right now I will have some. But I am just preparing myself and doing the normal things that I would around this time, working out. And on July 1, I'll be with my agent and we'll go through the process together."


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Without giving it his full endorsement, Monroe believes he could fit in with Drummond and small forward Josh Smith to form a big front line.

The trio wasn't a good fit last season. But Van Gundy could change that.

"You never know because it's about to change again," Monroe said. "Last season we weren't as successful as we wanted to be, so it's hard to answer that question right now. But with new leadership, who knows what can happen."

Either way, Monroe seems content.

"Most people would rather, if possible, not to have to go through it and just re-sign with the team they are with so you can have some stability and be secure," he said. "Right now it's like the draft process all over again. You don't know if you will have to change cities or where you will end up. It's a good thing that there are teams out there that want me. But at the end of the day, if I didn't have to do it, I wouldn't have a problem with that either."


Maybe because he's talking to his hometown newspaper and not a Detroit based outlet, but it sounds to me that Greg wants out, but hedges because he ultimately knows Detroit could/will match and he'll need a sign and trade to get out of Detroit and into his desired landing spot. I think he feels that Smith isn't going anywhere and doesn't like any of the "solutions" that will entail to make it work.

You seriously got that from reading that?

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Post#3 » by Q00 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:20 pm

While the Pelicans, with about $7 million in salary cap room, don't appear to have enough cap space to sign Monroe, a source said the team has made some initial inquiries to the Pistons about the possibility of working out a sign-and-trade deal.


Great news. Our best chance of getting something of value in return for Monroe is if he chooses a team lacking capspace. Then they will be forced to give up significant contract (which is usually a significant player) in order sign Monroe.

New Orleans makes a lot of sense as trade partners. Monroe is from NO. Bower has connections there. Ryan Anderson played for SVG.

I could definitely see us doing a deal with them, but its good just to hear that teams are calling about S&Ts. The more teams that are interested, the more we can force a bidding war and get the most for him.
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Post#4 » by Q00 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:30 pm

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Maybe because he's talking to his hometown newspaper and not a Detroit based outlet, but it sounds to me that Greg wants out, but hedges because he ultimately knows Detroit could/will match and he'll need a sign and trade to get out of Detroit and into his desired landing spot. I think he feels that Smith isn't going anywhere and doesn't like any of the "solutions" that will entail to make it work.


I think just the fact that he's even in free agency right now says he wants a change of scenery.

If he was really committed to staying here longterm, he would've tried to negotiate an extension already last summer. I know that his agent was thinking if he could get other teams involved it could drive up the price, but 14-15 mil is his max regardless, so if he really wanted to stay here, he could've just asked the Pistons for a max extension and possibly gotten paid already. From what I understand, his agent refused to even enter negotiations on an extension. So the only reason I can think of for why they would do that is because he doesn't want to play here period. Because had they agreed to the max extension, he would've been forced to sign it or else have an uncomfortable year playing here with everyone knowing he doesn't want to be here.
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Post#5 » by MotownMadness » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:34 pm

New Orleans makes too much sense. Its his hometown, He a offense deal pairing that they have been looking for for Davis, and they have some things we need. The problem is while Anderson is one of the best shooters in the league he is average to below average at everything else. So NOs needs to add more value. I would try everything to pry Holiday away from them and see just how highly they value a good hometown 24 year old Center.
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Post#6 » by engelbert321 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:38 pm

Sign and trade, please and thank you.
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Post#7 » by engelbert321 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:40 pm

MotownMadness wrote:New Orleans makes too much sense. Its his hometown, He a offense deal pairing that they have been looking for for Davis, and they have some things we need. The problem is while Anderson is one of the best shooters in the league he is average to below average at everything else. So NOs needs to add more value. I would try everything to pry Holiday away from them and see just how highly they value a good hometown 24 year old Center.

Holiday would be amazing but I don't see it happening since they traded Nerlens Noel and this year's pick for him
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Post#8 » by MotownMadness » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:43 pm

Im definitely good with a sign and trade for Monroe. Theres no sense in wasting all that money on another center. We will have alot more money now this offseason and be able to fill in the roster alot better.
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Post#9 » by Q00 » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:03 pm

Anderson + Evans would be awesome. I can't believe FA is only 2 weeks away :D
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Post#10 » by DocRI » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:07 pm

Q00 wrote:I think just the fact that he's even in free agency right now says he wants a change of SALARY.


^ Fixed. :wink:

C'mon guys, this is all just boiler-plate stuff. Monroe even said that he won't really have a clue what's going on until July 1st per the league's rules. And who amongst us, in any profession, wouldn't like the chance to weigh multiple job offers from different potential employers?

Last note — pulled this from HoopsHype, which they pulled from Twitter —

John Reid: A league source confirmed Saturday, the New Orleans Pelicans are exploring all avenues to improve their roster.


Frist, as someone who has previously worked in journalism, I'm envious! WHAT a scoop that source provided! I never would have thought that an NBA team, especially one that missed the playoffs, would be looking to improve during the offseason! But seriously, I think it goes to show how desperate the beat writers are to fill column inches with all the teams but two stuck in a holding pattern right now.
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Post#11 » by The Penguin » Sat Jun 14, 2014 10:57 pm

He hopes he has options because competition will be his best chance to get a max contract offer. He's in FA because he didn't get a max offer. Let someone else sign him and we can just match. I wouldn't S&T him unless we are getting real value. We hold all the cards.
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Post#12 » by MotownMadness » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:22 pm

Piston Prince wrote:He hopes he has options because competition will be his best chance to get a max contract offer. He's in FA because he didn't get a max offer. Let someone else sign him and we can just match. I wouldn't S&T him unless we are getting real value. We hold all the cards.

I just dont want to resign him to a max deal. Hes a good player but definitely not worth that kind of money. I want to go into the offseason and load up on shooters and a starting caliber wing. Then also get back a good player in a sign and trade who will more then likely make alot less then what Monroe will get.
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Post#13 » by Pharaoh » Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:01 am

LMAO! Basically Monroe said he's fine with going through the process (getting to talk to various teams) but he'd be fine if he didn't have to do it as well!

Nothing to see here IMO.

His agent asked for the MAX, we said no so now we play the RFA Game...where we hold all the cards.

IF he signs an offer sheet we can match it.

IF he wants a S&T then the team he's chosen will have to pony up assets otherwise no dice.

It's highly unlikely he accepts the 1-year qualifying offer...

I don't want to play hardball but a 24 year old skilled big is a helluva asset

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Post#14 » by DetroitPistons » Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:03 am

The only thing I want from NOP is Holliday. I would rather just resign Monroe out right though.
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Post#15 » by DETermination » Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:24 am

I think a sign & trade is our best option here. We can't have monroe and smith on the same team again and smith is a lot harder to trade.
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Post#16 » by Q00 » Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:35 am

Pharaoh wrote:LMAO! Basically Monroe said he's fine with going through the process (getting to talk to various teams) but he'd be fine if he didn't have to do it as well!

Nothing to see here IMO.

His agent asked for the MAX, we said no so now we play the RFA Game...where we hold all the cards.

IF he signs an offer sheet we can match it.

IF he wants a S&T then the team he's chosen will have to pony up assets otherwise no dice.

It's highly unlikely he accepts the 1-year qualifying offer...

I don't want to play hardball but a 24 year old skilled big is a helluva asset

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Are you sure his agent asked us for the max and we said no?

I recall his agent saying they were not interested in entering any negotiations on an extension and preferred Monroe become a RFA. So I don't think they ever even talked dollar amounts with the Pistons yet (at least that's what was reported).

As for you thinking there is nothing to see here, you don't think the part about NO contacting the Pistons to work a S&T for Monroe is newsworthy?

That's pretty significant to me.
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Post#17 » by Pharaoh » Sun Jun 15, 2014 12:56 am

Dude, it's a New Orleans paper reporting that they've contacted the Pistons about the Hometown Hero...

I expected it, as I'm sure most did.

SVG here, Rhyno being so effective, Bower used to be their GM...connect the dots.

As for Monroe's agent saying they refused to enter into contract negotiations...you don't believe that do you?

Every agent worth his % enters into extension negotiations. They walk in with a figure, make their case and then either strike a deal or leave knowing their figure is just too high.

I believe David Falk is Monroe's agent...I guarantee you he asked for the max...and not the 4 year max either! Falk's not interested in Drummond or the make up of the Pistons - he's in there to get Monroe every possible dollar.

Once Joe said no way to the full max Falk MAY have discussed the 4 year max...but I wouldn't be surprised if he just bailed, hoping that ONE team this July will pony up for Greg.

It only takes one...and while Monroe isn't worth the full max on a 4 or 5 year deal the fact remains he's a 24 year old skilled big. That's valuable and very tradeable regardless of salary.

IMO: Falk asked for the max, 4 or 5 years. Joe said no...and now we play the RFA Game

That means taking calls from teams without the cap space to sign Monroe...

For all we know he's almost signed, sealed & delivered to New Orleans for Rhyno...

But that won't stop some teams with cap space calling him...and that is when we'll be in the drivers seat!

IF Monroe chooses to sign an offer sheet with a team that has cap space...we threaten to match it.

IF Monroe chooses to go to a team without the space to sign him we drive a hard bargain.

In the end Falk & Monroe will have to choose which side they fall on...and if he wants out he's better off negotiating a S&T

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Post#18 » by Victor524 » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:02 am

DETermination wrote:I think a sign & trade is our best option here. We can't have monroe and smith on the same team again and smith is a lot harder to trade.


I think keeping Monroe would be the best option for the Pistons. I just find it hard to agree with a sign and trade with Monroe based on the idea that he can't play with Smith. Mainly because Smith is the problem and not Monroe (IMO of course). Smith is a lot harder to trade but in the sense that we wouldn't get the perceived equal value back. And I would be fine if we didn't. Even if that meant starting Singler in that 3 spot (which actually at least shows a little bit of promise under Van Gundy).

As far as a 4, 5 combo goes, I think Monroe and Drummond is more formidable than Smith and Drummond. Bottom line is I value Monroe more than Smith.
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Post#19 » by MotownMadness » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:19 am

Pharaoh wrote:Dude, it's a New Orleans paper reporting that they've contacted the Pistons about the Hometown Hero...

I expected it, as I'm sure most did.

SVG here, Rhyno being so effective, Bower used to be their GM...connect the dots.

As for Monroe's agent saying they refused to enter into contract negotiations...you don't believe that do you?

Every agent worth his % enters into extension negotiations. They walk in with a figure, make their case and then either strike a deal or leave knowing their figure is just too high.

I believe David Falk is Monroe's agent...I guarantee you he asked for the max...and not the 4 year max either! Falk's not interested in Drummond or the make up of the Pistons - he's in there to get Monroe every possible dollar.

Once Joe said no way to the full max Falk MAY have discussed the 4 year max...but I wouldn't be surprised if he just bailed, hoping that ONE team this July will pony up for Greg.

It only takes one...and while Monroe isn't worth the full max on a 4 or 5 year deal the fact remains he's a 24 year old skilled big. That's valuable and very tradeable regardless of salary.

IMO: Falk asked for the max, 4 or 5 years. Joe said no...and now we play the RFA Game

That means taking calls from teams without the cap space to sign Monroe...

For all we know he's almost signed, sealed & delivered to New Orleans for Rhyno...

But that won't stop some teams with cap space calling him...and that is when we'll be in the drivers seat!

IF Monroe chooses to sign an offer sheet with a team that has cap space...we threaten to match it.

IF Monroe chooses to go to a team without the space to sign him we drive a hard bargain.

In the end Falk & Monroe will have to choose which side they fall on...and if he wants out he's better off negotiating a S&T

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And you dont think Monroe would prefer to go to his hometown in NOs over Detroit? I know its ultimately up to us but if he dont want to be here then that makes giving him the max even less attractive to me.
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Post#20 » by coordinator0 » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:25 am

Q00 wrote:As for you thinking there is nothing to see here, you don't think the part about NO contacting the Pistons to work a S&T for Monroe is newsworthy?

That's pretty significant to me.


That was the only part of the article I found noteworthy. I wonder what they have in mind. They have five guys on the roster for next season that might have tradeable value (excluding Anthony Davis, he's not going anywhere). Alexis Ajinca, Jeff Withey, and Luke Babbitt are under contract too but I don't think they're relevant.

Eric Gordon makes some sense but that's a big gamble for Detroit given his durability issues and large two-year salary remaining. Even with Monroe gone in this scenario the team still needs good shooting since Smith would still be on the team and starting at power forward but Gordon is only average in that department. He could be close to a real number one scoring option though and I wouldn't be surprised if the team was attracted by that.

Tyreke Evans is terrible with a bad contract and definitely not what Van Gundy would look for if you buy into the idea that he wants floor-spacers on the wings. No. Just no. If that's who they're dangling in a sing-and-trade it would be better for the Pistons to let Monroe sign there outright.

Jrue Holiday would be my top target on their team but I don't see that happening. A deal involving Detroit sending New Orleans Monroe and Jennings would be nice although probably unlikely.

Ryan Anderson is coming off of a major back injury and surgery. He might not be able to participate in basketball activities until just before or even after next season starts. His value has to be sketchy right now and who knows if the Pistons want to take that risk. He's somebody that Van Gundy is familiar with though and that could offset their concern a bit.

Austin Rivers... eh. He would be an addition to the other four I listed but wouldn't add much value in my mind.

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