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Revisiting the potential Amare/KG trade in 07'... 

Post#1 » by Hook_Em » Sat Jun 14, 2014 11:15 pm


Garnett, according to sources close to the situation, is hoping for a trade to the Phoenix Suns if he has to leave the only team he has ever played for. "The Boston trade isn't happening," Garnett's agent, Andy Miller, told ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan. "If a trade were to happen, that's not a destination that we're interested in pursuing."

Suns general manager Steve Kerr told the Arizona Republic that he has been talking with the Wolves about acquiring Garnett, but said it would be "tough" to pull off.

It appears that Wolves management -- McHale and owner Glen Taylor -- is prepared for the first time to make a deal that would end the Garnett Era in Minneapolis after 12 seasons. Taylor, according to Wolves sources, has informed Garnett directly of that change in philosophy.

And Garnett, sources say, wants to move to a warm-weather city and a team that can claim legitimate championship potential.

All of which should help explain why the Suns are No. 1 on his list.

Another big factor: Garnett and Suns guard Steve Nash, sources say, have become good friends over the past few years, starting in 2005 when Garnett was one of the first players in the league to call Nash and congratulate him on his first MVP trophy.

The Wolves and Suns have also discussed a Garnett trade. The Wolves, though, naturally want to trade Garnett out of their conference if they can.

If it has to deal with the Suns -- given the strong possibility Garnett won't sanction a move elsewhere -- Minnesota is expected to demand that Phoenix part with Amare Stoudemire in the exchange, as well as a first-round pick from Atlanta in the 2008 draft that is fully unprotected.

It's considered unlikely that a Suns package built around Shawn Marion and that draft pick would be enough to pry Garnett away. Complicating matters further, Marion also has the right to become a free agent after the 2007-08 season and has also let it be known that he doesn't want to play in Minnesota or Boston, sources say. That stance quickly killed the possibility of a three-way deal involving Minnesota, Phoenix and Boston.

The Suns, meanwhile, are understandably hesitant to part with Stoudemire and have tried unsuccessfully to strike a deal without giving him up. Even though Garnett would certainly help Phoenix in the short term by supplying an instant boost of veteran savvy, while also likely improving team chemistry and addressing their biggest weakness -- matching up with San Antonio's Tim Duncan -- Stoudemire is only 24 and would appear to have limitless potential after making the most high-flying comeback from microfracture knee surgery that the league has ever seen.

Although Miller declined to specify a team when asked where Garnett would prefer to be dealt -- "Too early," he said -- it's believed that Phoenix will increase its efforts between now and Thursday's draft to assembling a Stoudemire-less package to satisfy Minnesota's requirements, perhaps by pulling in another team or two.

Or perhaps they'll reverse course and surrender Stoudemire, which would finally lead to a real Garnett deal after ceaseless KG trade speculation over the past several years.


Based on both player's path from 07'-on would you have been in favor of a Amare/KG swap? Amare was 1st-team all nba in 07' but KG was still only 28 and averaged 22/13 as well as being an elite defender. He won a title in Boston the next season...

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Re: Revisiting the potential Amare/KG trade in 07'... 

Post#2 » by LukasBMW » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:09 am

I would have done Amare for KG straight up. I wanted to at the time and I still want to now. KG was more clutch, a better rebounded, and a wayyyy better defender. A big 3 of Nash, Marion, KG with a supporting cast of Bell, Diaw, Barbosa, Hill would have been ridiculous.


Amare + our first round pick for KG? I'd do that too.

Amare + the Atlanta pick? That would have been a bit more difficult to swallow, but now even that would be fine.

I still think that if we had made the Amare for KG trade, we would have won a title. :(
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Post#3 » by toucansma » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:31 am

What about the near Marion to Boston, KG to Suns and Jefferson to the Wolves with other parts?? Sigh...
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Post#4 » by BurningHeart » Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:11 am

LukasBMW wrote:
I still think that if we had made the Amare for KG trade, we would have won a title. :(


I still think that if Tim Donaghy didn't ref Game 3 of the Western Conference Semifinals, we would have won a title.
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Post#5 » by DirtyDez » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:14 am

KG was a complete player. You know he averaged over 5 assists per game for seven straight seasons? That's unheard of for a big man... STAT was a gifted scorer but didn't give a damn about anything else. Defense and rebounding is a hustle thing. You're either born with it or not.

That said Garnett only had 1 great season post-07' before breaking down physically. If we could go back in time you make the swap after 05'. There's a good chance the Suns win 2/3 championships...

Nash/Barbosa
Bell/Barbosa
Marion/Jones
Diaw/Marion
KG/Thomas

He was a force mane.

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Post#6 » by sunsbum » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:44 am

Do not want to revisit. Stupid Marion.
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Post#7 » by BobbieL » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:41 pm

Marion and Garnett on defense would have been amazing

Garnett and Nash passing the ball - would have been amazing


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Post#8 » by Revived » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:57 pm

Definitely would have done KG for Amare.

Makes way more sense to match KG up with Duncan than Shaq's slow 55 year old ass with Duncan.

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