How would the 14 Spurs do against every champion since 2001?

Winsome Gerbil · Post #21 » by **Winsome Gerbil** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:17 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Yep, the same team that the 2014 Mavs took to 7 games would take out a far superior 2011 Mavs team, with a far superior version of Dirk, in 5 games.

No no no, the Spurs just won the title, so now will commence the annual 3-4 month period where they would beat any team in history, probably had 12 max players on the roster, and half a dozen HOFs at least.

Don't be a spoilsport: the 2011 Mavs had their day the same way. Let these Spurs enjoy their day in the gushing sun.

P.S. I actually did vote for these Spurs to beat those Mavs, but who knows, they were both similar occurences of underpowered teams by championship standards coming together, getting scorching hot, and putting down the starry dysfunction of the Heatles. Very similar to the '04 Pistons as well.

Rob Diaz · Post #22 » by **Rob Diaz** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:33 pm

Sure, the Spurs are just like those teams, other than the fact that they just spent the playoffs breaking several records and dominating more than any team since the 2001 Lakers LOL.

And the series vs. the Mavs doesn't change anything. The 2009 Lakers were taken to 7 by a team led by Aaron Brooks and had a 6'5 Center LOL. The Celtics were taken to 7 in rounds 1 and 2. The list goes on. None of these teams were even nearly as dominant as these Spurs, I don't think people understand how much energy is exerted when guarding a team that moves the ball all game, rather than running ISO on every play like most teams since the end of the 80s.

Post #23 » by **PaulieWal** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:40 pm

Rob Diaz wrote:2000 Lakers: Spurs in 5
2001 Lakers: Spurs in 7
2002 Lakers: Spurs in 5
2003 Spurs: 2014 Spurs in 4
2004 Pistons: Spurs in 4
2005 Spurs: 2014 Spurs in 6
2006 Heat: Spurs in 5
2007 Spurs: 2014 Spurs in 5
2008 Celtics: Spurs in 6
2009 Lakers: Spurs in 5
2010 Lakers: Spurs sweep
2011 Mavs: Spurs in 5
2012 Heat: Spurs in 7
2013 Heat: Spurs in 5

So you think 2014 Spurs would beat every champion team from 2000-2013?

VoodooPriest · Post #24 » by **VoodooPriest** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:51 pm

GSP wrote:From the 01 Lakers to the 13 Spurs?

Winsome Gerbil · Post #25 » by **Winsome Gerbil** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:54 pm

PaulieWal wrote:
Rob Diaz wrote:2000 Lakers: Spurs in 5
2001 Lakers: Spurs in 7
2002 Lakers: Spurs in 5
2003 Spurs: 2014 Spurs in 4
2004 Pistons: Spurs in 4
2005 Spurs: 2014 Spurs in 6
2006 Heat: Spurs in 5
2007 Spurs: 2014 Spurs in 5
2008 Celtics: Spurs in 6
2009 Lakers: Spurs in 5
2010 Lakers: Spurs sweep
2011 Mavs: Spurs in 5
2012 Heat: Spurs in 7
2013 Heat: Spurs in 5

So you think 2014 Spurs would beat every champion team from 2000-2013?

Note: ballboy with a Spurs logo next to his name, the day after the Spurs win the title. Take it for what its worth.

Rob Diaz · Post #26 » by **Rob Diaz** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:03 pm

Winsome Gerbil wrote:
PaulieWal wrote:
Rob Diaz wrote:2000 Lakers: Spurs in 5
2001 Lakers: Spurs in 7
2002 Lakers: Spurs in 5
2003 Spurs: 2014 Spurs in 4
2004 Pistons: Spurs in 4
2005 Spurs: 2014 Spurs in 6
2006 Heat: Spurs in 5
2007 Spurs: 2014 Spurs in 5
2008 Celtics: Spurs in 6
2009 Lakers: Spurs in 5
2010 Lakers: Spurs sweep
2011 Mavs: Spurs in 5
2012 Heat: Spurs in 7
2013 Heat: Spurs in 5

So you think 2014 Spurs would beat every champion team from 2000-2013?

Note: ballboy with a Spurs logo next to his name, the day after the Spurs win the title. Take it for what its worth.

I'm the only person in this thread that has actually stated arguments, actually.

Everybody else in this thread is just like every other casual fan, blinded by star power at the top, and neglecting system/antiquated style/innovation, etc.

richboy · Post #27 » by **richboy** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:29 pm

The Spurs are much better than they were last year. Kawhi by himself. Manu improvement. I don't see how people are saying last year Heat are better when they barely beat the Spurs with terrible Manu and not nearly as good Kwahi.

G35 · Post #28 » by **G35** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:37 pm

Rob Diaz wrote:Sure, the Spurs are just like those teams, other than the fact that they just spent the playoffs breaking several records and dominating more than any team since the 2001 Lakers LOL.

And the series vs. the Mavs doesn't change anything. The 2009 Lakers were taken to 7 by a team led by Aaron Brooks and had a 6'5 Center LOL. The Celtics were taken to 7 in rounds 1 and 2. The list goes on. None of these teams were even nearly as dominant as these Spurs, I don't think people understand how much energy is exerted when guarding a team that moves the ball all game, rather than running ISO on every play like most teams since the end of the 80s.

Well I do think the Spurs had great ball movement and great passers that got the ball to players before the defense could recover, in particular Ginobli. However, the Heat played into the Spurs hands by playing Chris Bosh and Rashard Lewis as their front court.

Rashard Lewis and Chris Bosh as their front court....think about it, there is no shot blocking with them, with Lebron being the only real shot blocker. Those teams that had great frontcourts would give the Spurs problems like the Lakers and earlier Spurs, and Celtics......

richboy · Post #29 » by **richboy** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:44 pm

1999 Spurs: 14 Spurs
2000 Lakers: Lakers
2001 Lakers: Lakers
2002 Lakers: Spurs
2003 Spurs: 2014 Spurs
2004 Pistons: Spurs
2005 Spurs: 2005 Spurs
2006 Heat: Spurs in 5
2007 Spurs: 07 Spurs
2008 Celtics: Celtics
2009 Lakers: Lakers
2010 Lakers: Lakers
2011 Mavs: Spurs
2012 Heat: Spurs
2013 Heat: Spurs

Woodsanity · Post #30 » by **Woodsanity** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:40 pm

01 Lakers - lose
02 Lakers - lose
03 Spurs - win
04 Pistons - win
05 Spurs - lose
06 Heat - win
07 Spurs - win
08 Celtics - lose
09 Lakers - win
10 Lakers - win
11 Mavericks - win
12 Heat - win
13 Heat - win

Rob Diaz · Post #31 » by **Rob Diaz** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:45 pm

The 2009 Celtics, prior to Garnett's injury, is the only complete, versatile team that I've seen, outside of these Spurs.

CaliBullsFan · Post #32 » by **CaliBullsFan** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:48 pm

They beat the: 10 Lakers, 03 Spurs
7 game series: 06 Heat, 12 Heat and 13 Heat

Post #33 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:49 pm

Rob Diaz wrote:The 2009 Celtics, prior to Garnett's injury, is the only complete, versatile team that I've seen, outside of these Spurs.

watch more basketball

andrewww · Post #34 » by **andrewww** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:55 pm

I honestly think this 2014 Spurs team is right up there with the 2001 Lakers as the best team in the post-Jordan era.

ceiling raiser · Post #35 » by **ceiling raiser** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:59 pm

Without any deep analysis, I'm thinking the 01 Lakers and 08 Celtics beat them. This list could be longer, but I'm undecided as to how much to credit SA's offense vs Miami's defense falling apart. If it's more of the former than the latter, the list will remain pretty short.

CaliBullsFan · Post #36 » by **CaliBullsFan** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:25 pm

andrewww wrote:I honestly think this 2014 Spurs team is right up there with the 2001 Lakers as the best team in the post-Jordan era.

mhd · Post #37 » by **mhd** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:01 pm

The 2000 Blazers would beat this Spurs team. That team had EVERYTHING, and choked away game 7.

I don't SAS has anyone who could defend Sheed on the block, and Sabonis was a wizard passer. Its a shame that team never won a title.

Blackfyre · Post #38 » by **Blackfyre** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:20 pm

2-2-1-1-1 format and better RS record has HC.

01 Lakers - lose in 4
02 Lakers - lose in 7
03 Spurs - win in 4
04 Pistons - win in 6
05 Spurs - win in 7
06 Heat - win in 5
07 Spurs - lose in 7
08 Celtics - lose in 7
09 Lakers - lose in 6
10 Lakers - win in 7
11 Mavericks - win in 7
12 Heat - win in 7
13 Heat - win in 6

11 Mavs is tough because much weaker Mavs team gave Spurs quite the challenge but that doesn't mean they can't beat the better version because they got much better as the playoffs progressed.

Wile E. Coyote · Post #39 » by **Wile E. Coyote** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:31 pm

CaliBullsFan wrote:
andrewww wrote:I honestly think this 2014 Spurs team is right up there with the 2001 Lakers as the best team in the post-Jordan era.

Yep. Shaq would have a field day against the Spurs frontcourt. Timmy had a tough enough time against him back then. Imagine a prime Shaq against 2014 Duncan.

Rob Diaz · Post #40 » by **Rob Diaz** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 10:31 pm

The early 2000s Lakers went up against a terrible group of perimeter players. Every team they went up against had perimeter players that were either old, couldn't defend or couldn't shoot. Sometimes, all 3. Kobe never had to exert any defensive effort, and they were able to get away with having players like Rick Fox and Brian Shaw in their rotation LOL.

Those types of players are antiquated today, as we saw when OKC tried to play Thabo Sefolosha and Caron Butler against the Spurs.

Those Lakers couldn't even guard Mike Bibby LOL.

The 2001 Lakers also ranked 15th in the league at defending the 3, I don't even know how they would try to defend a team with great shooters all over the roster.