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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#561 » by yosemiteben » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:56 pm

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Thats not entirely true because I remember him having some near triple double games towards the end of the 12-13 season but in all fairness last years draft was just god awful so it really doesnt matter.

So you concede that it doesn't make sense that McRoberts would get upset at the pick, and thus your entire argument is without any support. I agree.

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LOL you can tell you dont have a girlfriend, your ALWAYS right...even when your wrong..OK bro you won i lost happy now? Lets see how great we are with Zeller starting

Well my wife can vouch that I get a little feisty in debates when I start drinking, so sorry about that...

With that said, the argument that drafting Zeller was a bad strategy because it made McRoberts upset is patently absurd on many levels.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#562 » by Joest2003 » Sun Jun 15, 2014 2:21 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
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yosemiteben wrote:So you concede that it doesn't make sense that McRoberts would get upset at the pick, and thus your entire argument is without any support. I agree.

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LOL you can tell you dont have a girlfriend, your ALWAYS right...even when your wrong..OK bro you won i lost happy now? Lets see how great we are with Zeller starting

Well my wife can vouch that I get a little feisty in debates when I start drinking, so sorry about that...

With that said, the argument that drafting Zeller was a bad strategy because it made McRoberts upset is patently absurd on many levels.


haha Im just saying I respect your opinion because were both after the same goal but I just see more value in Mcbob than you do, even in the few games he player here after the trade he had a few near triple double games so I knew he had a bright future so I was hoping they wouldnt draft another PF. thats all im sayin
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#563 » by Snidely FC » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:10 pm

I hope people that watched the Spurs dismantle the Heat draw a conclusion that a superior team needs connective tissue players like Josh McRoberts to make everyone and everything around them run smoother. This guy is as necessary to CHA team success as any player on the squad. Don't focus on how many points he scores, give him a new contract and bring him back. He's important.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#564 » by BobsBuddy » Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:23 pm

:nod: I agree..Spread the FA $ around and draft smart...Hint Trade Hendo,9 for 12 pickup Afflalo from ORL., then trade Biz,12,45 for 14 27 and 50 from PHX.
Draft TJ Warren at 14 ,Napier at 24, McGary at 27 and Powell at 50 .
Extend contracts on KW, McBob, and resign ,CDR and go get Jack as backup point.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#565 » by BlackOutBuzz » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:40 pm

A little speculative, but probably correct. Per ESPN Insider:

"Charlotte Hornets starting power forward Josh McRoberts owns a player option for 2014-15 and he had a deadline of Sunday to exercise it. There is no official word as of Monday morning, but he likely chose to decline the option as it is worth only $2.77 million. McRoberts is now a free agent."

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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#566 » by yosemiteben » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:16 pm

BlackOutBobcat wrote:A little speculative, but probably correct. Per ESPN Insider:

"Charlotte Hornets starting power forward Josh McRoberts owns a player option for 2014-15 and he had a deadline of Sunday to exercise it. There is no official word as of Monday morning, but he likely chose to decline the option as it is worth only $2.77 million. McRoberts is now a free agent."

It would make no sense for him to exercise an option that undervalues his performance and contribution. No one should be surprised by this development.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#567 » by MasterIchiro » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:22 pm

BlackOutBobcat wrote:A little speculative, but probably correct. Per ESPN Insider:

"Charlotte Hornets starting power forward Josh McRoberts owns a player option for 2014-15 and he had a deadline of Sunday to exercise it. There is no official word as of Monday morning, but he likely chose to decline the option as it is worth only $2.77 million. McRoberts is now a free agent."

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If Kyle Anderson is there at 24 or if we trade up to get him, I would let McRoberts walk and allocate that money towards a legit backup PG.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#568 » by yosemiteben » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:29 pm

Out of curiosity, who then would you use for our starting PF (or backup if you want Zeller to start)?
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Post#569 » by fatlever » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:30 pm

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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#570 » by BeesWax » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:34 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Out of curiosity, who then would you use for our starting PF (or backup if you want Zeller to start)?

I would be willing to start Anderson at PF and let him go with the ball control. I would rather let him play behind McRoberts for a year or two to adjust to the game some but I love what he could bring at the PF spot.
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Post#571 » by yosemiteben » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:37 pm

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yosemiteben wrote:Out of curiosity, who then would you use for our starting PF (or backup if you want Zeller to start)?

I would be willing to start Anderson at PF and let him go with the ball control. I would rather let him play behind McRoberts for a year or two to adjust to the game some but I love what he could bring at the PF spot.

I'm a self-professing Anderson fan boy, but not sure even I can see him starting at the 4 . I don't think he's ever been asked to play high quality interior defense on a regular basis, and I'm not sure he has the physique to handle NBA PF's posting him up every game.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#572 » by BeesWax » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:42 pm

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yosemiteben wrote:Out of curiosity, who then would you use for our starting PF (or backup if you want Zeller to start)?

I would be willing to start Anderson at PF and let him go with the ball control. I would rather let him play behind McRoberts for a year or two to adjust to the game some but I love what he could bring at the PF spot.

I'm a self-professing Anderson fan boy, but not sure even I can see him starting at the 4 . I don't think he's ever been asked to play high quality interior defense on a regular basis, and I'm not sure he has the physique to handle NBA PF's posting him up every game.

Same weight and more length than Zeller. He is going to have to fill out some which is why I would like McRoberts in front of him for a year or so. I think his future position is the 4 where his speed won't be such a detriment and his intelligence and shooting will be a huge asset.
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Post#573 » by yosemiteben » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:49 pm

Cody Zeller at combine = 230 pounds, 4.8% body fat
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Kyle Anderson at combine = 230 pounds, 13.4% body fat
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Cody was WAY more muscle than Anderson.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#574 » by BeesWax » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:53 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Cody Zeller at combine = 230 pounds, 4.8% body fat
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Kyle Anderson at combine = 230 pounds, 13.4% body fat
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Cody was WAY more muscle than Anderson.

Like I said he needs to fill out but he has better length and is more suited to be a stretch 4 than Zeller. Anderson is going to be a 4 he just has to work to get there. He has all the skills to be a really good one he just needs to bulk up a bit and redistribute his weight.
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Post#575 » by MasterIchiro » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:03 pm

I would be fine with Anderson splitting time with Cody 20-20. Let the cream rise to the top from there. Anderson can do what McRoberts does at a fraction of the cost.

In limited minutes Cody averaged 15/9 per 36 after the all-star game so as long as you keep him around 20 he should be able to sustain that production.

I honestly think McRoberts is a waste of resources considering Cody's progress plus the need to draft and/or sign a 2nd ball handler like Stauskas and/or Lance Stephenson. Having Kyle Anderson on the team definitely tips it. If you consider McRoberts might earn 5 million, what can that 5 million get you at the backup PG spot?
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#576 » by BeesWax » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:07 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:I would be fine with Anderson splitting time with Cody 20-20. Let the cream rise to the top from there. Anderson can do what McRoberts does at a fraction of the cost.

In limited minutes Cody averaged 15/9 per 36 after the all-star game so as long as you keep him around 20 he should be able to sustain that production.

I honestly think McRoberts is a waste of resources considering Cody's progress plus the need to draft and/or sign a 2nd ball handler like Stauskas and/or Lance Stephenson. Having Kyle Anderson on the team definitely tips it. If you consider McRoberts might earn 5 million, what can that 5 million get you at the backup PG spot?

McRoberts is only a waste if we can get another starter either in the draft or FA to replace him. I would much rather spend 5 million on a quality starter than 5 million on Kemba's backup.

We are going to have to spend something to have a quality starting PF. Maybe what we spend in 24 or maybe it is cap room but somewhere we will have to spend something to bring in a starter.
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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#577 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:13 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:what can that 5 million get you at the backup PG spot?


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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#578 » by MasterIchiro » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:18 pm

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Post#579 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:31 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Who is that?


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Re: McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread 

Post#580 » by yosemiteben » Mon Jun 16, 2014 6:31 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:I would be fine with Anderson splitting time with Cody 20-20. Let the cream rise to the top from there. Anderson can do what McRoberts does at a fraction of the cost.

In limited minutes Cody averaged 15/9 per 36 after the all-star game so as long as you keep him around 20 he should be able to sustain that production.

I honestly think McRoberts is a waste of resources considering Cody's progress plus the need to draft and/or sign a 2nd ball handler like Stauskas and/or Lance Stephenson. Having Kyle Anderson on the team definitely tips it. If you consider McRoberts might earn 5 million, what can that 5 million get you at the backup PG spot?

I like Anderson, but you folks must not have watched him in college. He is not going to be able to guard NBA bigs any time soon. Even if his super slow shot translates, he is not going to be able to play NBA caliber defense in the post. If you think Zeller was raw, you don't want to watch Anderson try to play PF in the NBA. Very slow lateral quickness (which means slow close outs and poor PNR defense), gives up size advantage on the boards and no athleticism to make up for it. If we draft him, I think going into the season assuming he's going to play as meaningful a role as Cody is unwise.

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