Dario Saric

[The Flash Rises]

Saric doesn't have ideal length and size for the PF position, he's on the lower side, but the idea that it's some sort of disqualifying weakness is borderline absurd.

He struggles to shoot over Euro-grade players down low - how is this going to get any better when he enters the NBA?

I mean we got a guy who loves to play outside, distribute, create, shoot, dribble, and run, and is hyperactive and aggressive, yet the wisdom I'm reading here is to stuff him down low and expect him to be patient till somebody passes it to him in the post with the occasional jump-shot here and there. That is not his game - he will rot down there. If he goes down low, Luis Scola is his ceiling. Nothing to look forward to.

So the question is, should the aim be to turn him into a Luis Scola type of player, or take a "gamble" and allow him to flourish into a matchup-nightmare for the opposition?

There are much bigger rewards doing the latter for both team and player.

Hey, I'm an eagles fan as well!!! Darren Glass what a great career…

[baseballislife]

Have him falling to number 17 as well, don't see him as anything higher then a offensive weapon off the bench, great value tho for the Celtics tho at 17, love the fit for him their
if they can get Smart and Saric from this draft would be huge win for them

[Spalato]

Saric doesn't have ideal length and size for the PF position, he's on the lower side, but the idea that it's some sort of disqualifying weakness is borderline absurd.

He struggles to shoot over Euro-grade players down low - how is this going to get any better when he enters the NBA?

I mean we got a guy who loves to play outside, distribute, create, shoot, dribble, and run, and is hyperactive and aggressive, yet the wisdom I'm reading here is to stuff him down low and expect him to be patient till somebody passes it to him in the post with the occasional jump-shot here and there. That is not his game - he will rot down there. If he goes down low, Luis Scola is his ceiling. Nothing to look forward to.

So the question is, should the aim be to turn him into a Luis Scola type of player, or take a "gamble" and allow him to flourish into a matchup-nightmare for the opposition?

There are much bigger rewards doing the latter for both team and player.

Hey, I'm an eagles fan as well!!! Darren Glass what a great career…

Glassy will be sorely missed. But fortunately we got enough talent down back to fill in the gap.

Our midfield is in a lot of pain but. Our recruiting there has been shocking. So many spuds.

[basketballRob]

he is hedo turkoglu

Maybe on offense, but he's Pat Garrity on defense.

[Optimus_Steel]

he is hedo turkoglu

Maybe on offense, but he's Pat Garrity on defense.

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

[basketballRob]

he is hedo turkoglu

Maybe on offense, but he's Pat Garrity on defense.

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

After watching the draftexpress video, it looked like he couldn't stop a nose bleed.

[LloydFree]

he is hedo turkoglu

Maybe on offense, but he's Pat Garrity on defense.

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

He's not long enough to guard the interior and watching him guard the perimeter is downright comical. I hate to see what he looks like against an NBA athlete.

[basketballRob]

Maybe on offense, but he's Pat Garrity on defense.

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

He's not long enough to guard the interior and watching him guard the perimeter is downright comical. I hate to see what he looks like against an NBA athlete.

Not to mention he isn't strong enough to guard the interior either.

[basketballRob]

he is hedo turkoglu

Maybe on offense, but he's Pat Garrity on defense.

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

Are you basing this off what someone said, or watching game tape?

[Optimus_Steel]

Maybe on offense, but he's Pat Garrity on defense.

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

Are you basing this off what someone said, or watching game tape?

Game tape.

I think the argument that he is going to get destroyed on defense is tremendously overstated. How many players in the league are really good defenders? Not many. I think he will be an adequate team defender because he is a very smart basketball player and he understand how to position himself and rotate. He also rebounds well. He is also not a weakling as some have lead to believe. If freaking Boris Diaw can do the things he is doing while being overweight and having no lift then certainty Saric can hold his own, and Saric is in my opinion a more talented & determined Diaw. You don't just win MVP's and accolades by being an incomplete player and Saric has done that.

[Rosque]

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

Are you basing this off what someone said, or watching game tape?

Game tape.

I think the argument that he is going to get destroyed on defense is tremendously overstated. How many players in the league are really good defenders? Not many. I think he will be an adequate team defender because he is a very smart basketball player and he understand how to position himself and rotate. He also rebounds well. He is also not a weakling as some have lead to believe. If freaking Boris Diaw can do the things he is doing while being overweight and having no lift then certainty Saric can hold his own, and Saric is in my opinion a more talented & determined Diaw. You don't just win MVP's and accolades by being an incomplete player and Saric has done that.

But Dario is white and from a country that has no significance to the world. He must be a bust.

[MrTwister]

Saric is keeping his name on the draft.Nurkic too, which got called by Nuggets for medical exams and possible workout.From other international prospects i heard that Dangubic and Micic will come for workouts probably.

[Novocaine]

Maybe on offense, but he's Pat Garrity on defense.

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

He's not long enough to guard the interior and watching him guard the perimeter is downright comical. I hate to see what he looks like against an NBA athlete.

Go a few pages back in this thread. I listed dozens of players who aren't significantly longer or bigger than Saric who've played regular minutes in the NBA at the 4 lasts season - many as starters. Anyone who claims that Saric doesn't have the size to defend the 4 in the NBA when the vast majority of the 4s are basically his size is just parroting stuff.

Maybe on offense, but he's Pat Garrity on defense.

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

Are you basing this off what someone said, or watching game tape?

I don't know about him, but anyone who says he's Pat Garrity on defense clearly is either basing that opinion on something else than watching game tape or is a definitive basketball illiterate.

[basketballRob]

Are you basing this off what someone said, or watching game tape?

Game tape.

I think the argument that he is going to get destroyed on defense is tremendously overstated. How many players in the league are really good defenders? Not many. I think he will be an adequate team defender because he is a very smart basketball player and he understand how to position himself and rotate. He also rebounds well. He is also not a weakling as some have lead to believe. If freaking Boris Diaw can do the things he is doing while being overweight and having no lift then certainty Saric can hold his own, and Saric is in my opinion a more talented & determined Diaw. You don't just win MVP's and accolades by being an incomplete player and Saric has done that.

But Dario is white and from a country that has no significance to the world. He must be a bust.

I based my opinion on watching the game tape. Being white has nothing to do with it, I was hoping he wasn't terrible on defense but he is. I hope your team picks him as long as its not the Magic.

[basketballRob]

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

Are you basing this off what someone said, or watching game tape?

Game tape.

I think the argument that he is going to get destroyed on defense is tremendously overstated. How many players in the league are really good defenders? Not many. I think he will be an adequate team defender because he is a very smart basketball player and he understand how to position himself and rotate. He also rebounds well. He is also not a weakling as some have lead to believe. If freaking Boris Diaw can do the things he is doing while being overweight and having no lift then certainty Saric can hold his own, and Saric is in my opinion a more talented & determined Diaw. You don't just win MVP's and accolades by being an incomplete player and Saric has done that.

All you had to say is no I didn't watch any of his game tape.

[basketballRob]

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

He's not long enough to guard the interior and watching him guard the perimeter is downright comical. I hate to see what he looks like against an NBA athlete.

Go a few pages back in this thread. I listed dozens of players who aren't significantly longer or bigger than Saric who've played regular minutes in the NBA at the 4 lasts season - many as starters. Anyone who claims that Saric doesn't have the size to defend the 4 in the NBA when the vast majority of the 4s are basically his size is just parroting stuff.

He is not. He is a smart defender and he knows how to position himself. He also hustles and plays very hard.

Are you basing this off what someone said, or watching game tape?

I don't know about him, but anyone who says he's Pat Garrity on defense clearly is either basing that opinion on something else than watching game tape or is a definitive basketball illiterate.

I said it, and on a scale of 1-10 on defense he's in the negative. Watch the draftexpress video on him playing defense its hilarious. By the time he reacts the other player has scored and ran down the court.

[Apollo64]

He's not long enough to guard the interior and watching him guard the perimeter is downright comical. I hate to see what he looks like against an NBA athlete.

Go a few pages back in this thread. I listed dozens of players who aren't significantly longer or bigger than Saric who've played regular minutes in the NBA at the 4 lasts season - many as starters. Anyone who claims that Saric doesn't have the size to defend the 4 in the NBA when the vast majority of the 4s are basically his size is just parroting stuff.

Are you basing this off what someone said, or watching game tape?

I don't know about him, but anyone who says he's Pat Garrity on defense clearly is either basing that opinion on something else than watching game tape or is a definitive basketball illiterate.

I said it, and on a scale of 1-10 on defense he's in the negative. Watch the draftexpress video on him playing defense its hilarious. By the time he reacts the other player has scored and ran down the court.

Oh please, you haven't watched him play.

[Optimus_Steel]

Are you basing this off what someone said, or watching game tape?

Game tape.

I think the argument that he is going to get destroyed on defense is tremendously overstated. How many players in the league are really good defenders? Not many. I think he will be an adequate team defender because he is a very smart basketball player and he understand how to position himself and rotate. He also rebounds well. He is also not a weakling as some have lead to believe. If freaking Boris Diaw can do the things he is doing while being overweight and having no lift then certainty Saric can hold his own, and Saric is in my opinion a more talented & determined Diaw. You don't just win MVP's and accolades by being an incomplete player and Saric has done that.

All you had to say is no I didn't watch any of his game tape.

Do some real research before you talk out of your ass.

[basketballRob]

Game tape.

I think the argument that he is going to get destroyed on defense is tremendously overstated. How many players in the league are really good defenders? Not many. I think he will be an adequate team defender because he is a very smart basketball player and he understand how to position himself and rotate. He also rebounds well. He is also not a weakling as some have lead to believe. If freaking Boris Diaw can do the things he is doing while being overweight and having no lift then certainty Saric can hold his own, and Saric is in my opinion a more talented & determined Diaw. You don't just win MVP's and accolades by being an incomplete player and Saric has done that.

All you had to say is no I didn't watch any of his game tape.

Do some real research before you talk out of your ass.

Enlighten me! Maybe you've done research and have seen footage that I haven't. From what I saw he's not near an average defender and from what I've read he has a long ways to go to become average.

[Novocaine]

He's not long enough to guard the interior and watching him guard the perimeter is downright comical. I hate to see what he looks like against an NBA athlete.

Go a few pages back in this thread. I listed dozens of players who aren't significantly longer or bigger than Saric who've played regular minutes in the NBA at the 4 lasts season - many as starters. Anyone who claims that Saric doesn't have the size to defend the 4 in the NBA when the vast majority of the 4s are basically his size is just parroting stuff.

Are you basing this off what someone said, or watching game tape?

I don't know about him, but anyone who says he's Pat Garrity on defense clearly is either basing that opinion on something else than watching game tape or is a definitive basketball illiterate.

I said it, and on a scale of 1-10 on defense he's in the negative. Watch the draftexpress video on him playing defense its hilarious. By the time he reacts the other player has scored and ran down the court.

I watched dozens of full games from Saric, I don't need to watch a highlights video. He's pretty mobile and agile for a PF and is a very intense and scrappy defender. He lacks length and athleticism to be a good defender, but he won't be the massive defensive liability you purport - he would at the 3, but not at the 4. If he were longer and a high-level defender, than he'd be an easy top-4 pick.

You started by saying he wasn't long enough to guard the interior - but he isn't particularly short or small for a NBA 4 these days. Now you claim "it's hilarious" - that's not an argument worth of debating, just a juvenile rant. Try to make an argument that can be analyzed and debated instead of throwing over-the-top adjectives and telling people to watch a video.