NaturalBuns wrote:letsgosuns wrote:NaturalBuns wrote:
To be fair id want that too if I was a wolves fan.
It's like trading amare or Nash in the prime you want good assets back.
Well remember in 2009 when Kerr thought he had an agreed upon trade with the Warriors and Amare was still on an elite level and had one year left on his deal.
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/ar ... nline.html All that trade was, was for Curry, Biedrins, and possibly Brandan Wright and/or Marco Belinelli. That is pretty much nothing compared to what this poster is asking for. A package of players including Bledsoe, Plumlee, and Morris at this stage in their careers is far better than Curry (at that time who was just drafted), Biedrins (who has done nothing in the past few years), and Wright and/or Belinelli who are good but only role players. Not to mention, but the poster wanted the Suns to throw in three first round picks.
And seriously, does anybody consider Kevin Love to be on Amare Stoudemire's level in Amare's prime? I sure as hell do not. Amare was the most ferocious inside scorer in the league besides Shaq. Kevin Love is not even an inside presence. This trade offer is asinine.
Idk Kevin love seems to have a better all around game then amare.
Scoring,rebs,passing.
Both have terrible D.
I also know love can do it all that without a MVP but I'm not trying to compare I'm just saying love is definitely a star.
If you look at the previous two stars who got traded in prime..
Deron Williams
Carmelo Anthony
They got a ton back, I see the same thing with love
And Kerr had a good eye for talent in the drafts but bad at trades.
What he saw in curry became true.
I don't think the suns will give that to Minnesota as we are rebuilding not retooling but I don't think that's a insane offer from a Wolve fan
Well the Knicks gutted their team to get Carmelo and it basically ruined them. They made a huge mistake. Everybody knew it. They are still paying for that trade to this day as they do not have their first round pick this year because it is owed to Denver. The best they have done with Carmelo in 3 and a half seasons is win one playoff series. That is why you do not make a trade like this Wolves poster wants because one man cannot do it alone. The Spurs just proved that to the world. The Heat had the best player, but the Spurs had the best team.
The Deron Williams trade was not all that much really. Two players and two first round picks. Neither team really did anything after that trade either.
Now the biggest difference between Amare and Love is that Amare could raise his game to a completely different level than everyone else on the court when he was in his prime because of his athleticism. Love is a great shooter and a better rebounder, but I have never watched him and said wow, there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop this guy. Look at the game in 2005 when Amare had 50 points against the Blazers. He shot 20-27 fg on the game.
Amare was a monster on the inside and a scoring machine with an incredibly high fg percentage. Look at Amare's fg percentages when he was healthy on the Suns:
This is from 2003 to 2010 minus 2006 because he only played three games that year
47%, 48%, 56%, 58%, 59%, 54%, 56%. He also averaged at least 20 ppg in all those years except his rookie year when he averaged 13.5 ppg.
Now look at Kevin Love's fg percentages during his years in Minnesota. I am taking out the 2012-2013 season because he only played 18 games that year.
46%, 45%, 47%, 45%, 46%
That is a huge difference between the two players. I understand Amare had Steve Nash, but it is not about that. Amare and Love have completely different games. Amare would ram the ball down people's throats every single game he played. Kevin Love takes fade away jump shots and three pointers. My biggest problem with Love is his lack of athleticism when I watch him play. He is not fast, he does not jump high, and he does not play inside. There were times where the Suns just played the Timberwolves this past season and every player on the Suns was out jumping him inside. That scares me. That is why I am incredibly hesitant to trade for him. And I sure as hell would never in a million years give up Bledsoe, Plumlee, Markieff, and three first round picks. That blows my mind how anyone would do that. That is even a better package than what the Knicks gave up for Carmelo. Do not forget, Love can also leave after one year.
