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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#981 » by Bensational » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:08 am

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Bensational wrote:i don't get how anyone can question Dante being a PG or not. every time he has the ball, he's aware of how the defense reacts to him, he knows where his guys are, and if he draws defenders then he'll find the open man, or use the open man for a fake to get himself a clear shot.


well, if you watch the draftexpress video on him, his PG skills in general are listed as a weakness.


Then that's a grossly incorrect analysis. Just watch him play and you'll see he's a playmaker and a floor general who literally directs his teammates. Not to mention that his instincts playing off script are tremendous.

Is he reckless sometimes? Sure. He's guilty of overdribbling, but I'll take that any day since he often finds a way to draw contact and fouls, when he's not interrupting a defense and getting his teammates open.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#982 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:32 am

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Actually you're the one who finds it necessary to constantly troll the Marcus Smart thread. Look whos talking about fan boys.

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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#983 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:33 am

http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2014/6/17/5811160/2014-nba-mock-draft-marcus-smart-dario-saric-orlando-magic-basketball-insiders
In a mock NBA Draft posted Saturday, Basketball Insiders editor Steve Kyler projects the Orlando Magic to address their need for playmaking with their pair of first-round selections.

With the fourth overall selection, Kyler projects the Magic to add Oklahoma State guard Marcus Smart. In his sophomore season, the sturdy Smart stuffed the stat sheet with 18 points, 5.9 rebounds, 4.8 assists, and 2.9 steals per game on 42.2 percent shooting. Most analysts and fans expected Smart to declare for the Draft in 2013, following a freshman season in which he earned Consensus All-American First Team honors, but he elected instead to return to Stillwater.


In this mock, the Magic's choice of Smart leaves the likes of Australian guard Dante Exum, Arizona big man Aaron Gordon, Kentucky power forward Julius Randle, and Indiana big man Noah Vonleh, among others, still on the board.

The Magic pick up another playmaker with the 12th overall selection in Kyler's mock, adding Croatian point forward Dario Śarić. According to Kyler, "there have been rumblings" that Orlando could make a so-called "draft-and-stash" selection at 12, meaning it'd pick a player with the expectation that he would continue to hone his craft overseas instead of joining the team immediately.

In 28 appearances for KK Cibona of the Croatian League and Adriatic League, the 6-foot-10 Šarić averaged 16.7 points, 9.7 rebounds, 3.2 assist, and 1.3 steals on 55.1 percent shooting from the floor. At 20 years old, Šarić still has plenty of room to grow.

"There has also been some talk," says Kyler, that the Magic might add UCLA guard Zach LaVine with the 12th pick.

The 2014 NBA Draft is set for Thursday, June 26th on ESPN


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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#984 » by fendilim » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:33 am

Hogified05 wrote:I think Australia and Canada are the next two countries up to challenge the US in international basketball. Exum and Ben Simmons are going be a formidable 1 2 punch. Plus they got Patty mills (lead the last olympics in scoring) and Dellavedova, not to mention some size in Baynes for the spurs to put next too Simmmons. Exums size he could probably get away playing the 3 on that lineup.

Then Canada has of course Wiggins and some nice pieces to fit around him. Should be exciting because the USA will be in transition after the 2016 olympics and Australia and Canada should just be coming into their prime. It's good for us to get knocked off every once in awhile to give us motivation plus its better for basketball when other countries are good.

ha sorry those videos of Exum passing it to Simmons got me on a tangent.
They also got Thon Maker in australia.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#985 » by Hogified05 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:40 am

fendilim wrote:They also got Thon Maker in australia.


Yea I just actually researched the Australia and Canadian prospects and read that about Maker. Australia and Canada have some horses coming up. I think the Aussie's edge out Canada in the superstar potential but Canada is deeper I think.

These two teams will definitely be the USA's biggest challenges in 4 or so years. Be fun to see Canada and US games that will be hyped up.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#986 » by Blues » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:01 am

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fendilim wrote:They also got Thon Maker in australia.


Yea I just actually researched the Australia and Canadian prospects and read that about Maker. Australia and Canada have some horses coming up. I think the Aussie's edge out Canada in the superstar potential but Canada is deeper I think.

These two teams will definitely be the USA's biggest challenges in 4 or so years. Be fun to see Canada and US games that will be hyped up.


Probably unlikely, but Kyrie Irving was born in Austrailia.

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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#987 » by fendilim » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:10 am

Has Irving represented the US already?
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#988 » by Hogified05 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:14 am

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fendilim wrote:They also got Thon Maker in australia.


Yea I just actually researched the Australia and Canadian prospects and read that about Maker. Australia and Canada have some horses coming up. I think the Aussie's edge out Canada in the superstar potential but Canada is deeper I think.

These two teams will definitely be the USA's biggest challenges in 4 or so years. Be fun to see Canada and US games that will be hyped up.


Probably unlikely, but Kyrie Irving was born in Austrailia.

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Very solid. Exum, Simmons and Maker will be too inexperienced by 2016 to make any real dent in those Olympics. But if they are all healthy come 2020 they are loaded. Dellavedova will be 31, Mills would be 33 and Baynes a big body would be 35. They have a couple big guys coming up too (I detailed it in a thread on the General Board). But Kyrie has an interesting decision to make. I still think he plays for the US but I think the Aussie's up and coming talent could give him reason to at least think about it.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#989 » by Orlwillbeback » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:25 am

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Actually you're the one who finds it necessary to constantly troll the Marcus Smart thread. Look whos talking about fan boys.

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omg get the **** outta here lol if i troll the smart fanboys you do it 100x more for us exumers.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#990 » by Def Swami » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:33 am

fendilim wrote:Has Irving represented the US already?

He definitely practices with Team USA. Don't think he has played in FIBA or Olympics yet.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#991 » by Bensational » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:49 am

Hogified05 wrote:Probably unlikely, but Kyrie Irving was born in Austrailia.

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Very solid. Exum, Simmons and Maker will be too inexperienced by 2016 to make any real dent in those Olympics. But if they are all healthy come 2020 they are loaded. Dellavedova will be 31, Mills would be 33 and Baynes a big body would be 35. They have a couple big guys coming up too (I detailed it in a thread on the General Board). But Kyrie has an interesting decision to make. I still think he plays for the US but I think the Aussie's up and coming talent could give him reason to at least think about it.[/quote]

i think Irving stays a US citizen and joins the dream team for an easy gold medal.

but if he chose to represent Australia, he'd have a much bigger slice in the pie of achievements. Kyrie, Mills, Exum and Simmons would be the leaders of that team. offense would be great but the defense would be attrocious.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#992 » by DiplomaticMagic » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:52 am

I really wish I believed the crap Chad Ford says

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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#993 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:28 pm

Dante Exum 3 PT shooting drill
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#994 » by Blues » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:33 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:Dante Exum 3 PT shooting drill
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBdxq5KFAzA[/youtube]

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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#995 » by Nyce_1 » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:49 pm

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/ ... aign=sm_tw

Dante Exum is an X factor from Australia

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“He’s intriguing in that he’s kind of like the new-wave point guard, a guy that can play both guard positions,” said one Eastern Conference executive. “He’s got great size — enough to play both guard positions — speed and athleticism and ballhandling to play the point and then shooting, size, and strength to play the [shooting] guard position.

“He’s kind of the optimal point guard guy. I think that’s what’s intriguing about him.

“You’re talking about the kid who, [at] the under-19 World Championships, was the best kid in the tournament, hands down. It’s just a matter of how many people saw him there and how many people are comfortable with that to make a decision on him.

“At the Hoops Summit, he was good, but he wasn’t stellar. He was the youngest guy in the game. He’s another kid that was a year younger than everyone else. He’s a talent. I think teams might be sleeping on him as far as what he potentially could be.”

But one Eastern Conference scout said the issue of what position Exum plays is the “million-dollar question.”

“What is he going to be?” asked the scout. “Are you going to turn him into Russell Westbrook? Or is he going to be Thabo Sefolosha?”

Another Eastern Conference scout said Exum might have to play point guard even if it’s not the best position for him.

“As a point guard, I like him, but I don’t know if he’s a natural point guard,” the scout said. “I think that you kind of have to play him there — this is only based off me seeing him at Nike Hoops Summit last year — but the thing about him when he wasn’t playing point, because he was paired up with Dennis Schroder, was Exum had no clue how to cut or move without the ball. He just literally stood in the corner.

“I think he always has to have the ball in his hands to be effective.”

A Western Conference scout recalled watching Exum face Schroder, a German point guard who was drafted by the Atlanta Hawks last year.

“Let me tell you, Dennis Schroder kicked the [expletive] out of him in every one-on-one drill,” the scout said. “It was sad, because here was this young, gangly kid, and Schroder was tying him into knots.”

The Western Conference scout called Exum a “very good prospect” but stopped short of saying he was anything more.

“Again, is he not a tremendous prospect? I’m not going to say that,” the scout said. “Is he a potential All-Star? I don’t know. Is he someone who if I was drafting, and I haven’t seen him play other than a one-on-zero workout, would I consider drafting him top five? No [expletive] way.

“I saw him play every conceivable level of basketball. He’s not a point guard. Just because you can dribble in a straight line and dunk doesn’t make you a point guard.”

Exum hasn’t been playing on a competitive team since leading Lake Ginninderra Secondary College to the Australian National High School Basketball Championships title in January.

Before that, he competed in the FIBA Under-19 World Championships, where he averaged 18.2 points, 3.6 rebounds, and 3.8 assists.

“The thing that brings me a little bit of concern is the level of competition that he’s played against,” said one Eastern Conference executive. “He played against our young guys, USA guys last year, and he looked good. But playing in Australia . . . I just mean, the everyday competition against guys that are as quick, as fast, as good? He hasn’t done that.”

An Eastern Conference scout said that Exum comes from the “same cloth as all the Australian players that have played in the NBA — he has a grit, toughness, nasty. Has a ton of pride. Wears the Australian flag strong.”

But another Eastern Conference executive who watched Exum compete overseas said Exum reminded him of an Argentine player, San Antonio Spurs guard Manu Ginobili.

“Just like Manu is extremely left-hand dominant, Dante is extremely right-hand dominant,” the executive said. “He really has no left hand right now. That will have to come as he gets older and stronger and just better as a player. That was kind of a name that came to mind.

“I think it’s kind of an interesting type of player. I don’t think Manu gets enough credit for as good of a 2-guard as he actually is. If you can find another one of him, I think that’s a pretty good get.

“I think Exum has that ability to where he could be a slasher but a good enough shooter to draw defenses out and then have the ability to drive and create out of that, because like Manu, he’s an incredible passer for being a big player.”

More than with any other lottery-caliber players, there are questions about Exum’s game, if only because of where he’s from.

“He’s long, athletic, he knows how to play,” an Eastern Conference scout said. “I think his biggest thing will be getting stronger and shooting. I think he’s athletic, but it’s interesting, because he covered [Andrew] Wiggins a couple times at that [Hoops Summit] event, and he did OK.

“And it’s like, ‘OK, this guy can cover Wiggins.’ But then there are plays, and it’s like, as athletic as Exum is, he’s not an elite athlete. Wiggins can do this to a lot of people, but there was a very large difference between the two when it came to the level of athleticism.

“I think he’s probably more athletic than [Michael] Carter-Williams, but I don’t know if he has Carter-Williams’s feel as a point guard. But he’s definitely a player. He’s one of those guys — just draft his talent and let the coach figure it out.”
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#996 » by thelead » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:49 pm

I don't like how low that release is. Ugly and easier to block.
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Post#997 » by HeartAndHustle » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:22 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2014/6/17/5811160/2014-nba-mock-draft-marcus-smart-dario-saric-orlando-magic-basketball-insiders
In a mock NBA Draft posted Saturday, Basketball Insiders editor Steve Kyler projects the Orlando Magic to address their need for playmaking with their pair of first-round selections.

With the fourth overall selection, Kyler projects the Magic to add Oklahoma State guard Marcus Smart. In his sophomore season, the sturdy Smart stuffed the stat sheet with 18 points, 5.9 rebounds, 4.8 assists, and 2.9 steals per game on 42.2 percent shooting. Most analysts and fans expected Smart to declare for the Draft in 2013, following a freshman season in which he earned Consensus All-American First Team honors, but he elected instead to return to Stillwater.


In this mock, the Magic's choice of Smart leaves the likes of Australian guard Dante Exum, Arizona big man Aaron Gordon, Kentucky power forward Julius Randle, and Indiana big man Noah Vonleh, among others, still on the board.

The Magic pick up another playmaker with the 12th overall selection in Kyler's mock, adding Croatian point forward Dario Śarić. According to Kyler, "there have been rumblings" that Orlando could make a so-called "draft-and-stash" selection at 12, meaning it'd pick a player with the expectation that he would continue to hone his craft overseas instead of joining the team immediately.

In 28 appearances for KK Cibona of the Croatian League and Adriatic League, the 6-foot-10 Šarić averaged 16.7 points, 9.7 rebounds, 3.2 assist, and 1.3 steals on 55.1 percent shooting from the floor. At 20 years old, Šarić still has plenty of room to grow.

"There has also been some talk," says Kyler, that the Magic might add UCLA guard Zach LaVine with the 12th pick.

The 2014 NBA Draft is set for Thursday, June 26th on ESPN


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I honestly have no idea why anyone would ever quote anything that Steve Kyler says. Do yourselves a favor and UNFOLLOW that guy from Twitter and take any "Insider" information from him with a grain of crap.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#998 » by Smooth_E » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:23 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/2014/6/17/5811160/2014-nba-mock-draft-marcus-smart-dario-saric-orlando-magic-basketball-insiders
In a mock NBA Draft posted Saturday, Basketball Insiders editor Steve Kyler projects the Orlando Magic to address their need for playmaking with their pair of first-round selections.

With the fourth overall selection, Kyler projects the Magic to add Oklahoma State guard Marcus Smart. In his sophomore season, the sturdy Smart stuffed the stat sheet with 18 points, 5.9 rebounds, 4.8 assists, and 2.9 steals per game on 42.2 percent shooting. Most analysts and fans expected Smart to declare for the Draft in 2013, following a freshman season in which he earned Consensus All-American First Team honors, but he elected instead to return to Stillwater.


In this mock, the Magic's choice of Smart leaves the likes of Australian guard Dante Exum, Arizona big man Aaron Gordon, Kentucky power forward Julius Randle, and Indiana big man Noah Vonleh, among others, still on the board.

The Magic pick up another playmaker with the 12th overall selection in Kyler's mock, adding Croatian point forward Dario Śarić. According to Kyler, "there have been rumblings" that Orlando could make a so-called "draft-and-stash" selection at 12, meaning it'd pick a player with the expectation that he would continue to hone his craft overseas instead of joining the team immediately.

In 28 appearances for KK Cibona of the Croatian League and Adriatic League, the 6-foot-10 Šarić averaged 16.7 points, 9.7 rebounds, 3.2 assist, and 1.3 steals on 55.1 percent shooting from the floor. At 20 years old, Šarić still has plenty of room to grow.

"There has also been some talk," says Kyler, that the Magic might add UCLA guard Zach LaVine with the 12th pick.

The 2014 NBA Draft is set for Thursday, June 26th on ESPN


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I literally stopped caring right when I read that.
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#999 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:40 pm

Does anyone have examples of great PG's in history who were Slasher type PG's who can't drive to the left and have low release poor outside shooting?
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Re: The Dante Exum Thread 

Post#1000 » by magicaroni » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:48 pm

I honestly think we would be better served to draft Vonleh or Randle at #4 and then take a PG like Payton, Lavine or Napier at #12.

The Boston Globe article cemented a couple of the things I had seen in tape and was extremely worried about. The lack of competition, comparisons to an average athletic perimeter player like Thabo, and the fact he always defaults to his right hand on layups, even on the left side of the hoop.

There is too many red flags in this kid's game IMO, and it will be ahuge risk by Hennigan to gamble on this kid. Go big with Vonleh at 4 and sure up the front line, and then add a solid compliment to Victor at #12. No need to gamble on the future of the franchise.
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