Poll: Would you trade Giannis for Parker or Wiggins?

[RRyder823]

Oh come on, ya'll can't be serious comparing Durant and Giannis' first year.

player #1 actually Durant??? But yeah I agree no matter what the #'s say you really shouldn't be comparing the two in any way yet. Then again I am drinking the Kool-Aid when it comes to Giannis and think he's a star in the making. Pretty sure he even drew rave reviews from Durant during the regular season. Take that for what its worth but it's still good to hear from the reigning MVP. Wouldn't move him for all but a handful of players right now

[Bucks_MacGyver]

In the right system last year giannis easily could of averaged 15ppg... Larry drew is the worse coach for him. Just like skiles was bad for Jennings, like Mike d/Chris ford was bad for big dog.

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[AussieBuck]

Well ahead of Durant at defense and passing in year one. A year younger too.

[Baddy Chuck]

It's just silly because Durant was a scorer from his first season. He had the weight of an offense put on him, he put up 20 points a game and still did it with better efficiency then Giannis did scoring 6 a game. I'm not sure looking at other parts of Durants game in comparison is even a point of pride either, Durant wasn't very good at anything else besides scoring. Hell, he still isn't exceptional at anything besides scoring.

And I would definitely question Giannis scoring 15 points a game in a better system, he simply wasn't that good on an offensive player this year. Flashes were there, but consistency was surely not. If he was pushing anywhere near 15 a game that efficiency would surely dip along with his turnover skyrocketing.

[paulpressey25]

Vote is now 80-77 in favor of no trade.

The reason this thread and poll is interesting is that the consensus on this board regarding an issue is usually correct, and I'm trying to see where things shake out. We usually don't have polls this tight.

Really good debate in here. I usually don't like the YouTube videos, but will admit the one that Ayt posted was ridiculously compelling. Haven't changed my vote yet but might.

[europa]

Oh come on, ya'll can't be serious comparing Durant and Giannis' first year.

If people wanted to surpass the Bogut/Duncan or Jennings/Paul stuff, this is definitely the way to go about doing it.

[emunney]

Not really apples to apples statistically when you're talking about one guy with almost double the usage rate of the other guy. Durant and Giannis comparisons end with their bodies and movement skills. The nice thing is that apart from LeBron, there isn't a person in the world better physically suited to play basketball than Durant.

[msiris]

If I could I would change my answer, since they are so close as far as potential. Since there is no net gain for the Bucks I don't see the point in doing it.

[europa]

Since there is no net gain for the Bucks I don't see the point in doing it.

There's about a 0% chance the Bucks would even have the opportunity to consider it.

[msiris]

Not really apples to apples statistically when you're talking about one guy with almost double the usage rate of the other guy. Durant and Giannis comparisons end with their bodies and movement skills. The nice thing is that apart from LeBron, there isn't a person in the world better physically suited to play basketball than Durant.

When watching Giannis last year I was waiting for him drive the lane and pull up for the shot. I wanted to see if he had the ability to hit that shot like Durant does. I do not know if he was told not to or if he did not have confidence or if was he always looking to pass or take it all the way to the hoop. He has the length and size like Durant to get that type of shot off at will.

[msiris]

Since there is no net gain for the Bucks I don't see the point in doing it.

There's about a 0% chance the Bucks would even have the opportunity to consider it.

I agree with you since most of the teams do not view Giannis like we do. There is no net gain for them as well.

[Newz]

The potential oozes out of all of his pores.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_BOkyq_H3E[/youtube]

Seriously how can any Bucks fan watch this and not completely cream their paints?

Lebron, Durant, Davis or go fly a kite. He's UNTOUCHABLE.

[europa]

Since there is no net gain for the Bucks I don't see the point in doing it.

There's about a 0% chance the Bucks would even have the opportunity to consider it.

I agree with you since most of the teams do not view Giannis like we do.

I don't think there's a GM in the league who would offer Wiggins or Parker for Giannis. I'm not trying to be the voice of doom about Giannis and I'm not ignoring the skill set he possesses. But you guys really seem to be overrating him. I hope he becomes half as good as some of you seem to think he is. That would make him an excellent pick and a core piece for the future.

[ReasonablySober]

The potential oozes out of all of his pores.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_BOkyq_H3E[/youtube]

Seriously how can any Bucks fan watch this and not completely cream their paints?

Lebron, Durant, Davis or go fly a kite. He's UNTOUCHABLE.

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[bizarro]

With all due respect:

There is zero chance in hell you trade Giannis. Zero. Are you kidding me?!? The kid is the face of the franchise. He's everything and anything you want in a budding young talent. He's a 6'11" PG who has an incredible desire, work ethic, and willingness to be great: on both ends of the court. Let me repeat this: He's a 6'11" PG! He is young and raw, yes. BUT, make no mistake about it: He's the face of our pivot toward a Spurs/OKC model. Y'all know how I feel about Lord Embiid: I wouldn't trade Giannis for a healthy Embiid. I'm rolling with him - make it or break it.

I'll say it again: He's a once-in-a-generation prospect. I truly believe that. He has the tools and the raw materials to be something really really special. He may not get there...but, I'm going to enjoy the ride and throw in all my chips.

[bizarro]

Do you remember back in-season when either Nebs or Emuney asked us about Giannis' potential trajectory toward, say, a Paul George-level player? This was early in the season. I was one of several posters here who just felt it was way too early to have such a conversation. Giannis changed my mind in 1 **** month. That was the accelerated rate of improvement we saw. There is no way I trade Giannis for Parker and Wiggins knowing he'll have an offseason of workouts and improvement heading into a season with, hopefully, a new coach. Just, none. Zero.

[Aaron It Out]

My point wasn't to say that Giannis is going to be Durant. It was to show that making your point with stats and nothing else is stupid.

[theFireBlanket]

Well ahead of Durant at defense and passing in year one. A year younger too.

Mind that I knew the satire within when I gave you the And1. Pretty sure.

But put Nov/Dec 13 Gianni in a role that gives him as many touches, in a primary ball-handling role, during the times when he was hot and I'm not sure that he wouldn't have shown that he's capable of really going off.

It's no coincidence that his worst numbers came during the ball hogging, "drive to the hoop" period of Sessions and Knight. The shooting for the past 3 months drags his numbers down a bit.

[europa]

Stats are not a perfect form of analysis but no such form exists. But stats do serve a purpose. If they were completely "stupid" no one would ever use them for anything. As is the case with all data, context is key. I have admitted on several occasions I did not see Giannis enough to form a more fully comprehensive view of the player I think he can be. So I don't have enough information at my disposal to offer anything more. When that time comes I will feel more comfortable expanding upon my commentary. Until then, the stats will have to do whether people like it or not.

I think it's great to have excitement about Giannis. We've all been there with someone at one time or another in recent years. Much of that is due to the fact the Bucks have been so starved for a legitimate game-breaking type of player we're hoping someone can emerge to become one. If Giannis can become that type of player I think it would be wonderful.

[Ruben Quevedo]

Since there is no net gain for the Bucks I don't see the point in doing it.

There's about a 0% chance the Bucks would even have the opportunity to consider it.

I'm willing to bet that if you polled GM's and scouts around the league 40% + would say Giannis is greater than or equal to Parker/Wiggins as a prospect.