Poll: Would you trade Giannis for Parker or Wiggins?

[RRyder823]

Lamar Odom without the drug and personal issues would be one helluva player. If Giannis gets within sniffing distance of that, it could go down as one of the best draft picks by any team in a long time.

Speaking of Odom, go back and look at the 1999 draft when he was picked 4th. That one was freaking loaded.

Agree whole heartenly. People forget how much of a big time prospect Odom was. Seriously if he becomes Odom without all of Odoms baggage that would be a HUGE win. I don't think a lot of people realize just how good Odom could've gottin if he never had all his other issues and had his head screwed on strait

[ReasonablySober]

I have literally not seen you post once outside of making sarcastic posts about Giannis.

Well, then you haven't seen about 99.9% of my posts, but that's okay.

your sig tho

[europa]

Lamar Odom without the drug and personal issues would be one helluva player. If Giannis gets within sniffing distance of that, it could go down as one of the best draft picks by any team in a long time.

Speaking of Odom, go back and look at the 1999 draft when he was picked 4th. That one was freaking loaded.

Agree whole heartenly. People forget how much of a big time prospect Odom was. Seriously if he becomes Odom without all of Odoms baggage that would be a HUGE win. I don't think a lot of people realize just how good Odom could've gottin if he never had all his other issues and had his head screwed on strait

In terms of talent, if a player had Odom's skills he'd be worthy of a No. 1 pick in the draft nearly every year. He was tremendously talented.

[Newz]

It's not about capabilities, it's about how players actually play. I say the league hasn't seen a player quite like him, and you bring up Durant, Garnett and AK47, who aren't even similar to each other. Yet they're all apparently just like Giannis.

All of those guys have similar builds and body types. All of them could handle, distribute, guard on the perimeter and help in the paint. That's what you asked... for players who could do those things, so I gave them to you. Those guys clearly aren't exact replicas of one another, but they do all have things in common.

I guess I don't get how it isn't about capabilities. But alright, I guess.

But god forbid somebody says he plays like a giant Arizona Iguodala. That's INSANE.

What the hell? When did I say that was insane?

I said I think it's kind of crazy to assume that he's going to be a giant version of Iggy and that there is no question about it. But I don't think that comparison is all that bad aside from the height difference. He could be that guy. I wasn't referencing your post earlier, someone in another thread had said that he was a 7 foot Iguodala and if you didn't think so, then you clearly just haven't watched him play.

[glenn]

I have literally not seen you post once outside of making sarcastic posts about Giannis.

Well, then you haven't seen about 99.9% of my posts, but that's okay.

But when your sig is one big, flashing, sarcastic statement then really everything you post could fit those criteria.

[Sherman Douglas]

You must have missed my posts saying how happy I was to finally have a legit prospect to be excited about rather than another Jennings/Ellis/Maggette etc. stat stuffer that doesn't help win games.

But that was before this board started to go overboard with the Giannis hype.

[Sherman Douglas]

I have literally not seen you post once outside of making sarcastic posts about Giannis.

Well, then you haven't seen about 99.9% of my posts, but that's okay.

But when your sig is one big sarcastic statement about him then really everything you post could fit those criteria.

My sig is specifically referring to a group of people that think Giannis is one of the best players in recent history. That's what you're describing when you say "floor of Scottie Pippen" or "floor of an uber-athletic Kukoc."

Edit: Or saying you would take him over Embiid.

[Newz]

You have 1,328 posts and apparently all of them are ripping Giannis. That's impressive.

You are to Giannis what I am to Jermichael Finley apparently.

[Sherman Douglas]

You have 1,328 posts and apparently all of them are ripping Giannis. That's impressive.

You are to Giannis what I am to Jermichael Finley apparently.

If I had to guess I'd literally say about 15 of my posts are discussing Giannis overhype. Probably three times that many are Giannis praise.

[LUKE23]

Nobody is saying he is one of the best players in history. They are projecting out. And again, one comment does not equal forum consensus. But if you aren't damn excited about him, then I don't know what you were watching last year (and that's a general statement to everyone).

[Sherman Douglas]

Nobody is saying he is one of the best players in history. They are projecting out. And again, one comment does not equal forum consensus. But if you aren't damn excited about him, then I don't know what you were watching last year (and that's a general statement to everyone).

Define "damn excited." If I had to guess right now I would say I could see him developing into a starter on a title team. Not the best or maybe even second best player on that team, but still an important cog. Like I said, that would be pretty good for the 15th pick in an awful draft.

[dedned]

Nobody is saying he is one of the best players in history. They are projecting out. And again, one comment does not equal forum consensus. But if you aren't damn excited about him, then I don't know what you were watching last year (and that's a general statement to everyone).

Like I said, most people were not watching last year.

[Ayt]

Ripping people for being excited about Giannis" is not the same thing as ripping people for thinking his floor is Scottie Pippen or uber-athletic Kukoc, or saying that his rookie year was almost as impressive as Kevin Durant's

I have literally not seen you post once outside of making sarcastic posts about Giannis. It is your fault if you take a comment from one poster and paint the entire fanbase with it and act like it's a general consensus.

I just never understood the posters that want to crap on people getting excited about young players. It's literally all Bucks fans have to talk about. We haven't won a playoff series in **** 13 years.

And it isn't like Bucks fans are the only ones who are extremely high on Giannis.

[AussieBuck]

Philly fans don't like him. They went into deranged homer mode when people started raving about Giannis in the rookie thread on the main board. Some of us here may have fanned the flames a little.

[Sherman Douglas]

Nobody is saying he is one of the best players in history. They are projecting out. And again, one comment does not equal forum consensus. But if you aren't damn excited about him, then I don't know what you were watching last year (and that's a general statement to everyone).

Like I said, most people were not watching last year.

I watched the vast majority of our games.

[Nycballa2k]

Man I love Giannis but we're that confident that he's gonna be better than two of the most heralded prospects in a long time huh? Let's not be like Toronto with JV now...

[theFireBlanket]

Ripping people for being excited about Giannis" is not the same thing as ripping people for thinking his floor is Scottie Pippen or uber-athletic Kukoc, or saying that his rookie year was almost as impressive as Kevin Durant's

I have literally not seen you post once outside of making sarcastic posts about Giannis. It is your fault if you take a comment from one poster and paint the entire fanbase with it and act like it's a general consensus.

I just never understood the posters that want to crap on people getting excited about young players. It's literally all Bucks fans have to talk about. We haven't won a playoff series in **** 13 years.

And it isn't like Bucks fans are the only ones who are extremely high on Giannis.

You're one of the posters really behind Gianni and last year on draft night you flipped out after the selection. I know that you regretted it the next day or sometime afterward. Not chastising you. That should illustrate the effect on those who thoroughly followed last season of what he's shown to be capable of doing.

Many of us masochistically suffered through ugly basketball to watch the beautiful moments given by Giannis, Wolters, Middleton, sometimes Henson, sometimes Knight, etc. For many it began with Giannis (whether it ended there or not). Sometimes I felt that way but that was more the fault of Larry Drew, the PG play, the Neal and Caron, than other young players. Not because we're all that necessarily desperate for good news as Bucks fans but because his flashes were that brilliant. Every game seemed to become worthy of the attention.

[ReasonablySober]

13 pages and the primary argument against a deal is because these two have a lot of hype.

[Baddy Chuck]

13 pages and the primary argument against a deal is because these two have a lot of hype.

And they have a lot of hype because of their skill/talent level and the player that skill/talent level could become. The same reason Giannis has hype around him.

[ReasonablySober]

13 pages and the primary argument against a deal is because these two have a lot of hype.

And they have a lot of hype because of their skill/talent level. The same reason Giannis has hype around him.

In the Ford's 25 best prospects list Wiggins and Parker both had one thing in common: if they had been able to come out after high school, they would have been much higher on the list. They went to school and their stock dropped. The hype surrounding them wasn't indicative of their actual abilities.