2013-2014 College Basketball / '14 NBA Draft Thread

[76ciology]

FWIW Sixer fans, the insider on the Bucks board who has never given us false info said that the debate is over internally and that we'll take which ever of Parker or Wiggins is there and is "supremely confident" that we won't trade down. We are are also interested in acquiring another top 10 pick. I very much doubt we'd pick Exum, at the very least we'd take Wiggins and try to leverage assets out of you guys I'd imagine. I would guess the MCW trade rumors are your way of trying to mitigate that leverage.

Good luck on draft day fellas, the east needs to hit on some picks this year.

So it's gonna be parker because we'll just trade with Cavs. Haha JK

But yeah, I can see that happening. That's why there is a lot of rumors of us selecting Smart or Exum and trading MCW for a top 10 pick.

Thanks for the info BTW. I think Bucks is one of the teams that is very open to their fanbase and I usually lurk around Bucks forum for info.

[LongLiveHinkie]

Just an idea here....

Hinkie trades MCW and a couple seconds to LAL for #7

With the third pick we select Dante Exum. Then Julius Randle at 7 and Doug McDermott at 10. Second round we get Jordan Adams. What do you guys think of that lineup?

Exum
Adams
McDermott
Randle
Noel

Another idea I like is moving up to draft Smart. He could play SG alongside MCW if we manage to land Wiggins or Parker.

It's what I'd call "a nice little lineup" but that is the type of lineup where in 3 years we are winning 40 games and they are fun to watch every other night, but we still don't have a superstar and we aren't going anywhere until we get one.

and at that point we'd be back in NBA purgatory again. Not bad enough to get a top pick for a stud and not compelling enough to attract superstars via free agency.

[76ciology]

Just an idea here....

Hinkie trades MCW and a couple seconds to LAL for #7

With the third pick we select Dante Exum. Then Julius Randle at 7 and Doug McDermott at 10. Second round we get Jordan Adams. What do you guys think of that lineup?

Exum
Adams
McDermott
Randle
Noel

Another idea I like is moving up to draft Smart. He could play SG alongside MCW if we manage to land Wiggins or Parker.

It's what I'd call "a nice little lineup" but that is the type of lineup where in 3 years we are winning 40 games and they are fun to watch every other night, but we still don't have a superstar and we aren't going anywhere until we get one.

and at that point we'd be back in NBA purgatory again. Not bad enough to get a top pick for a stud and not compelling enough to attract superstars via free agency.

Yup, I agree. That's why I can see us using the 7th and the 10th pick to go for a much superior player in Vonleh or Embiid.

Exum-Embiid-Noel. That's a pretty nasty core.

[LongLiveHinkie]

If the Sixers can't move up then I still don't take Exum. Hell, if they trade MCW I'll go with Smart. I just think you need a back court player in this league that can be a big-time scorer and I think Smart has much more of a chance to be that than Exum. Exum might be a well rounded player, but not sure he'll ever be a big-time scorer.

I think Smart could be one. Has a very good mid-range game and he probably can get you 17-20 a night and will play D.

Just can't stand teams that can't score, they drive me nuts.

[76ciology]

If the Sixers can't move up then I still don't take Exum. Hell, if they trade MCW I'll go with Smart. I just think you need a back court player in this league that can be a big-time scorer and I think Smart has much more of a chance to be that than Exum. Exum might be a well rounded player, but not sure he'll ever be a big-time scorer.

I think Smart could be one. Has a very good mid-range game and he probably can get you 17-20 a night and will play D.

Just can't stand teams that can't score, they drive me nuts.

Well if we get the 7th pick and select Embiid with our 3rd. There's a huge chance we end up with Smart.

76ers - Embiid
Magic - Exum (they are high on him)
Jazz - Vonleh or Mcdermott (rumored)
Celtics - somebody not Marcus Smart because they have Rondo (Randle or Gordon)
Lakers - Smart
Kings - McDermott?
Bobcats - Stauskas?
10th Randle or Gordon

Smart
Wroten
Thad
Gordon
Embiid
Noel

Fill the 2nd rounders with a bunch of shooters that are dime a dozen to go along with James Anderson and Hollis Thompson. LOL

That's a bunch of high motored, long and athletic players that I won't like to face for 48 minutes.

[BullyKing]

Just an idea here....

Hinkie trades MCW and a couple seconds to LAL for #7

With the third pick we select Dante Exum. Then Julius Randle at 7 and Doug McDermott at 10. Second round we get Jordan Adams. What do you guys think of that lineup?

Exum
Adams
McDermott
Randle
Noel

Another idea I like is moving up to draft Smart. He could play SG alongside MCW if we manage to land Wiggins or Parker.

It's what I'd call "a nice little lineup" but that is the type of lineup where in 3 years we are winning 40 games and they are fun to watch every other night, but we still don't have a superstar and we aren't going anywhere until we get one.

and at that point we'd be back in NBA purgatory again. Not bad enough to get a top pick for a stud and not compelling enough to attract superstars via free agency.

I was agreeing with everything you said until the last part. Yes, that team seems similar to the Iggy treadmill teams but the difference there is that team was always capped out and this team will have double max space. I think stars would be interested in that situation. Just got to hope they choose better than Brand this time.

But I totally get the sentiment and why I still think I want Embiid, even if we have to take him at 3. I want a superstar and I'll roll the dice on his health to try and get one. I think right now my dream scenario is to trade 3 and 39 to the Magic for 4 and 12 so they can get Exum. Then take Embiid at 4. If Hinkie then wants to swap MCW for Smart, I trust his judgment.

[DowJones]

If Hinkie wants Wiggins as badly as is being reported, I don't think he would allow him to fall to 2 anyway. He'd try to secure him at 1.

I don't see how a trade up to #1 would happen with Cleveland though. With all due respect, the 3rd pick lost a TON of value in Cleveland's eyes once Embiid got hurt, especially since the Cavaliers don't need a PG or SG (Exxum). I was thinking if the injury do Embiid isn't too bad then maybe Cleveland does a 1 for 3/10 trade and takes Joel at 3, but the injury seems like the worst type you can have for a big man.

Cleveland's asking price for that #1 pick has gone up and I don't think Philly would be willing to meet it. 3 and 10 will not get it done. I think Cleveland might want 5 and Favors from Utah. That deal could work. That is good value for Cleveland because there is a chance Embiid falls to 5 and Favors is a 22 year old rookie center/pf on a very reasonable 4 year contract

[Embiid P]

If Hinkie wants Wiggins as badly as is being reported, I don't think he would allow him to fall to 2 anyway. He'd try to secure him at 1.

I don't see how a trade up to #1 would happen with Cleveland though. With all due respect, the 3rd pick lost a TON of value in Cleveland's eyes once Embiid got hurt, especially since the Cavaliers don't need a PG or SG (Exxum). I was thinking if the injury do Embiid isn't too bad then maybe Cleveland does a 1 for 3/10 trade and takes Joel at 3, but the injury seems like the worst type you can have for a big man.

Cleveland's asking price for that #1 pick has gone up and I don't think Philly would be willing to meet it. 3 and 10 will not get it done. I think Cleveland might want 5 and Favors from Utah. That deal could work. That is good value for Cleveland because there is a chance Embiid falls to 5 and Favors is a 22 year old rookie center/pf on a very reasonable 4 year contract

Maybe I'm missing something here but is #5 and Favors really worth more than #3 and #10? TBH I'm perfectly content with staying at #3.

[DowJones]

5 and Favors is much better, especially since Cleveland has no real need for Exxum. I think Philly takes Exxum myself. He makes sense for you. Ultimately Cleveland will end up with Wiggins. He wowed the Cavs on Wednesday with his workout.

[Kobblehead]

That Cavs team with Favors + whatever they get at #5 is pretty damn scary.

[sixers23]

That Cavs team with Favors + whatever they get at #5 is pretty damn scary.

Problem is the player at 5 will play same position as favors unless they took smart or Embiid fell to 5

[Kobblehead]

Keep in mind that although Favors came into the league projected as a forward, he actually settled into being a C.

[Hardcore6erFan]

I have a feeling Hinkie really likes Nurkic and Capella. Will be shocked if one of them is not on Sixers roster

[Phoen-X]

I have a feeling Hinkie really likes Nurkic and Capella. Will be shocked if one of them is not on Sixers roster

Good news, I want Capela!

[agiaco]

So it's safe to say many of you don't view Exum as a potential superstar? I've got to say I think he's as likely to become a star as Wiggins.

[Kobblehead]

So it's safeto say many of you don't view Exum as a potential superstar? I've got to say I think he's as likely to become a star as Wiggins.

Without a NCAA season to base my opinion on, I'm finding it difficult to project Exum. I'm not comfortable projecting off of perceived attributes alone.

I'm inclined to commit to saying that he is as likely as Wiggins to develop into a star because I don't project Wiggins as a probable star.

[76erStu]

just a thought...

what if Cavs take Parker, Bucks take Wiggins...

we then take Exum. Call up the Bucks and offer MCW, 10, 32 for Wiggins. Would they do that?

Then we come out with Exum and Wiggins

[BNelley24]

What if we make 2 moves on draft day?

If we truly believe Wiggins is the franchise going forward, it is worth it to get that star and go from there.

We trade MCW to either the Kings/Lakers for their picks.

Then we package 3 + 6/7 for #1....that might be able to land #1....

[snoopdogg88]

if we end up with MCW/Exum/Randle/Noel core going into next season, i'll be thrilled

[c3neely]

Its just crazy to me we make this great draft pick and get a steal in MCW, and theres a chance we ship him out the next year

If its a slam dunk trade and we are def. better off in the trade, then sure....but a lot of these options i see seem like "washes" to me. We have no idea if any of these guys are going to pan out...id say Jabari is the surest thing coming out of this draft...every one else is "maybe he can"