Official #2 Pick Thread - BP says it's down to AW/JP

[MrPerfect1]

Sanders/Knight for #7/Nash is perfect.

We've been dreaming of that one for a month now. Would do it easily. For me the guy I want there is Smart. Rather than Middleton, toss in pick #31.

Come away with either Wiggins/Smart or Jabari/Smart would be amazing IMO.

Of course Woelfel would have us think that Sanders is locked away at Hazelden or something like that.

I don't think he'd drop that far but I would Love Gordon. A Super Athletic, High IQ, Great Defensive, High Character/Motor player is highly valuable. If he develops his Jumper he is a Superstar, if he doesnt he becomes a smaller Noah who can guard possibly 1-4.

[paulpressey25]

The question is whether or not that report Amico put out about Jabari not having as good a workout with the Cav's as Wiggins or Embiid was complete smoke released by Gilbert to get Philly to ante up if they want Wiggins in trade, or was legit.

[Zeezprah]

Khris Middleton on the Spurs would look amazing though and he is only 22. What pick do you guys think he would be worth by himself in this draft? I would say probably around #20.

if not higher depending on the team. if i was the suns, i might say eff it and trade 18 for middleton. he's not worth a lottery pick, but any other pick isn't out of question imo. unfortunately, crappy teams like atlanta and boston own picks that would normally be owned by playoff teams (atlanta just a playoff team by default), and chicago owns another, and i really don't want to give them middleton to play with butler and rose.

if it weren't for the contract (it'll expire soon), i'd definitely consider middleton as part of our young core.

[paulpressey25]

I don't think he'd drop that far but I would Love Gordon.

I wouldn't complain at all if we got Gordon. The only reason I'm more focused on Smart is that if we drafted Jabari and obviously had Giannis, I'd prefer to have a pure guard then. I view both guys as about equal prospects.

[Nowak008]

We've been dreaming of that one for a month now. Would do it easily. For me the guy I want there is Smart. Rather than Middleton, toss in pick #31.

Come away with either Wiggins/Smart or Jabari/Smart would be amazing IMO.

Don't worry about Jag off guys PP... Throw in Middleton too if Smart is still there. Still don't think the Lakers make that deal though.


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[cinematographer]

Khris Middleton on the Spurs would look amazing though and he is only 22. What pick do you guys think he would be worth by himself in this draft? I would say probably around #20.

if not higher depending on the team. if i was the suns, i might say eff it and trade 18 for middleton. he's not worth a lottery pick, but any other pick isn't out of question imo. unfortunately, crappy teams like atlanta and boston own picks that would normally be owned by playoff teams (atlanta just a playoff team by default), and chicago owns another, and i really don't want to give them middleton to play with butler and rose.

if it weren't for the contract (it'll expire soon), i'd definitely consider middleton as part of our young core.

He's a restricted free agent. Should we want him, he's ours. And we should.

[Frank Nova]

Baddy, can u post Paul George sophomore stats at Fresno vs Wiggins freshman stats per40? I'd like to see if the numbers match the observation. The more and more I watch Wiggins, the more and more I convince myself that he will be a similar player to Paul George on both ends of the floor.

[raferfenix]

The Cavs are truly a wildcard. They could go in any number of directions -- including something seemingly insane that shocks the world, like last year.

Moreover, if Cleveland thinks they have even a small percentage shot at Lebron that will also seriously amplify their volatility.

After desperately trying to get John Calipari to take their $80 million (which might not have even required him to coach) purely because of his connection to James, you have to think that they'll be taking whatever they think might most entice him to consider coming home into account to say the least.

[paulpressey25]

Don't worry about Jag off guys PP... Throw in Middleton too if Smart is still there. Still don't think the Lakers make that deal though.

I'd toss in Middleton if I had to, but would start with the #31. The other question is whether or not Nash can play at all next year, and if we could forward him onto another team for an asset equivalent to #31 or Middleton.

[Zeezprah]

Khris Middleton on the Spurs would look amazing though and he is only 22. What pick do you guys think he would be worth by himself in this draft? I would say probably around #20.

if not higher depending on the team. if i was the suns, i might say eff it and trade 18 for middleton. he's not worth a lottery pick, but any other pick isn't out of question imo. unfortunately, crappy teams like atlanta and boston own picks that would normally be owned by playoff teams (atlanta just a playoff team by default), and chicago owns another, and i really don't want to give them middleton to play with butler and rose.

if it weren't for the contract (it'll expire soon), i'd definitely consider middleton as part of our young core.

He's a restricted free agent. Should we want him, he's ours. And we should.

i know. and trust me i want him too, just want the price to be right. no reason it shouldn't though.

[Max Green]

I like Middleton a lot but he isn't keeping me from getting a guy like Smart. Middleton could eventually develop into a core player, Smart on the other hand is a core player as soon as he joins our team.

[cinematographer]

It's more about getting pick number 7 in a good draft then it is getting rid of Sanders. Hell, we could get the guy you rather have than Jabari Parker with that pick.

I guess now's a good time to ask everyone wanting Sanders in these trades:

Are you suggesting Sanders because you prefer Henson to him, or because you think it would take Sanders to be accepted?

[theFireBlanket]

Yeah, screw Exum. He only has a brilliant first step, sensational passing and Ginobli guile getting to and at the rim. Who cares about a guy killing it against kids his own age, that's why Larkin was a better pick than Giannis.

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[Baddy Chuck]

It's more about getting pick number 7 in a good draft then it is getting rid of Sanders. Hell, we could get the guy you rather have than Jabari Parker with that pick.

I guess now's a good time to ask everyone wanting Sanders in these trades:

Are you suggesting Sanders because you prefer Henson to him, or because you think it would take Sanders to be accepted?

I don't think the guy who is apparently worse than Khris Middleton has a ton of value.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Khris Middleton on the Spurs would look amazing though and he is only 22. What pick do you guys think he would be worth by himself in this draft? I would say probably around #20.

if not higher depending on the team. if i was the suns, i might say eff it and trade 18 for middleton. he's not worth a lottery pick, but any other pick isn't out of question imo. unfortunately, crappy teams like atlanta and boston own picks that would normally be owned by playoff teams (atlanta just a playoff team by default), and chicago owns another, and i really don't want to give them middleton to play with butler and rose.

if it weren't for the contract (it'll expire soon), i'd definitely consider middleton as part of our young core.

He's a restricted free agent. Should we want him, he's ours. And we should.

suns are my other favorite team and if the bucks make Middletown available I do think they would be interested especially if they believe tucker is going to get an offer they won't be comfortable matching. He's fits what they are looking for; young and can shoot. They only thing that could give them pause is that Middleton probably gets a nice midsized contract if he plays well next yr and there's going to be some wings available for them at 14 or 18 that they would have on cheap rookie deals for 4 yrs.

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[paulpressey25]

Here is a spitballing Laker rebuild to try to sell them on giving up pick #7.

Sanders/Knight/Middleton for #7/Nash. Leaves Lakers with $40 million of salary.

Con LeBron into coming over as a FA at $15mm-$18mm per year.

If the cap is $63.2mm try to get Pau to sign up cheap for $5mm per.

Pau/Sanders/LeBron/Kobe/Knight

I'm not saying I'd do that if I were LeBron, but I'm not sure there is a better big-market option for him, other than Chicago, if Boozer can be jettisoned. That said, does anyone know if Kobe can still walk?

[bigkurty]

It's more about getting pick number 7 in a good draft then it is getting rid of Sanders. Hell, we could get the guy you rather have than Jabari Parker with that pick.

I guess now's a good time to ask everyone wanting Sanders in these trades:

Are you suggesting Sanders because you prefer Henson to him, or because you think it would take Sanders to be accepted?

I prefer Sanders over Henson but I think they would want Sanders more. Maybe not though, who knows. I don't think Henson has the drive or competitive nature to ever be that good so I definitely have no fear throwing him in any trades.

[raferfenix]

I wouldn't complain at all if we got Gordon. The only reason I'm more focused on Smart is that if we drafted Jabari and obviously had Giannis, I'd prefer to have a pure guard then. I view both guys as about equal prospects.

Posts like these make me that much more curious who Hammond is crushing on:

Hammond has a crush on a player that's a unanimous 5-9 pick. Interestingly, I'm not sure where he'd fit if Parker is the pick.

[paulpressey25]

Are you suggesting Sanders because you prefer Henson to him, or because you think it would take Sanders to be accepted?

It would take Sanders to get the deal done. Otherwise I'd rather put in the deal Henson.

Additionally, I'm 50-50 on whether Sanders needs to be out of that locker-room next year or not. I think if we end up with Wiggins, I'm more for dumping Larry. If it is Jabari, he's a better compliment to Larry, and I think Jabari takes over leadership of the team and keeps Larry in line.

[jakecronus8]

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