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Official #2 Pick Thread - BP says it's down to AW/JP

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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread - BP says it's down to AW/JP 

Post#601 » by jakecronus8 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:09 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:You guys that don't think Parker is a top three player in this draft and the second or third best prospect since Anthony Davis are in for a rude awakening.

At this point, I'm fine with either Wiggins or Parker. Excited.


Beal, Drummond, Oladipo, Giannis, Wiggins, Exum, for me are the guys I'd take over Parker since Davis was drafted.
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Post#602 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:11 pm

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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread - BP says it's down to AW/JP 

Post#603 » by LedZepp007 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:11 pm

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LedZepp007 wrote:You guys that don't think Parker is a top three player in this draft and the second or third best prospect since Anthony Davis are in for a rude awakening.

At this point, I'm fine with either Wiggins or Parker. Excited.


Beal, Drummond, Oladipo, Giannis, Wiggins, Exum, for me are the guys I'd take over Parker since Davis was drafted.


Fair enough. I really don't understand the Parker hate, though. I guess we will find out soon enough.
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread - BP says it's down to AW/JP 

Post#604 » by EastSideBucksFan » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:14 pm

cinematographer wrote:I don't like Parker's game for what the Bucks are trying to do, but in the right role -- as a stretch 4 -- he can probably be a top-50 impact player. Of course, if the defense never comes, then he's like Ryan Anderson, with the potential good of his offense eradicated by the defense.



That's a terribly inaccurate comparison & projection for Jabari Parker.
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Post#605 » by jakecronus8 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:14 pm

I don't think people hate Parker, they hate his game. Me no likey hero ball.
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Post#606 » by jakecronus8 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:19 pm

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cinematographer wrote:I don't like Parker's game for what the Bucks are trying to do, but in the right role -- as a stretch 4 -- he can probably be a top-50 impact player. Of course, if the defense never comes, then he's like Ryan Anderson, with the potential good of his offense eradicated by the defense.



That's a terribly inaccurate comparison & projection for Jabari Parker.


Agree. I will however say, if Parker extends his range, he could be the best stretch 4 in the league once Dirk retires. In fact, I think he should be watching Dirks game tape all summer. That's the style he needs to play in the NBA.
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread - BP says it's down to AW/JP 

Post#607 » by cinematographer » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:19 pm

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LedZepp007 wrote:You guys that don't think Parker is a top three player in this draft and the second or third best prospect since Anthony Davis are in for a rude awakening.

At this point, I'm fine with either Wiggins or Parker. Excited.


Beal, Drummond, Oladipo, Giannis, Wiggins, Exum, for me are the guys I'd take over Parker since Davis was drafted.


Fair enough. I really don't understand the Parker hate, though. I guess we will find out soon enough.

It's not hate. He's not a 3, rumors of his production have been greatly exaggerated and he's not a willing passer.

If Parker had Diaw's vision and passing ability, I'd have him significantly higher. But the downside of a chucking PF who can't create for others who doesn't have much room to grow isn't remotely appealing.
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Post#608 » by JayMKE » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:21 pm

People hate Parker because they're on the nuts on some other player, simple as that.
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Post#609 » by MiltownHawkeye » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:21 pm

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wow you have saric and Gordon all rated higher than parker really im assuming you are one of the biggest parker haters on this board yes?

Nah, I am. I wouldn't even take a flier on Jabari with a late first.


I don't like Parker's game for what the Bucks are trying to do, but in the right role -- as a stretch 4 -- he can probably be a top-50 impact player. Of course, if the defense never comes, then he's like Ryan Anderson, with the potential good of his offense eradicated by the defense.

I certainly don't begrudge you for not wanting to take a flier on him. I think his floor is significantly lower than the consensus.

I like Bog/Staus/Ander all before him for the Bucks, however.

I was joking around, he's #3 on my board. Part of that is not wanting to overthink things.

I do agree with your stance on Parker in general though. The guy has bust potential and I reject the notion that he's a "safe" pick.
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Re: Official #2 Pick Thread - BP says it's down to AW/JP 

Post#610 » by cinematographer » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:21 pm

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cinematographer wrote:I don't like Parker's game for what the Bucks are trying to do, but in the right role -- as a stretch 4 -- he can probably be a top-50 impact player. Of course, if the defense never comes, then he's like Ryan Anderson, with the potential good of his offense eradicated by the defense.



That's a terribly inaccurate comparison & projection for Jabari Parker.

I'm comparing impact, not their respective games.big, big difference.
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Post#611 » by jakecronus8 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:22 pm

JayMKE wrote:I hate Exum because I'm on the nuts of some other player, simple as that.


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Post#612 » by RiotPunch » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:23 pm

MiltownHawkeye wrote:
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cinematographer wrote:Exum
Embiid
Wiggins
Saric
Vonleh
Gordon
Parker
Bogdanovic
Stauskas
Anderson



wow you have saric and Gordon all rated higher than parker really im assuming you are one of the biggest parker haters on this board yes?

Nah, I am. I wouldn't even take a flier on Jabari with a late first.


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Post#613 » by JayMKE » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:24 pm

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JayMKE wrote:I hate Exum because I'm on the nuts of some other player, simple as that.


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Not thinking Exum is god is hate in the nuthugger world, nothing I said about the kid even remotely compares to the **** that has been said about Parker.
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Post#614 » by jakecronus8 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:25 pm

It's great. If someone doesn't like your guy and only your guy you're a hater and on someone else's nuts. Good deduction.
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Post#615 » by PedroGrande » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:26 pm

Right now i wouldn't cry (or complain) if we picked parker. But no one here convinced me that he would be a star. And i'm trying to convince myself of that and I still hope someone can, or if we pick him I'll gladly eat crow with it. I just don't see some of the things people see in him.
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Post#616 » by White+Purple » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:28 pm

JayMKE wrote:People hate Parker because they're on the nuts on some other player, simple as that.

Nope, now that Embiid's crippled there's not a single player I would draft at #2. Firmly in the trade down camp.
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Post#617 » by JayMKE » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:29 pm

Anybody that repeatedly says Parker is fat, brings up one game over and over, make some ridiculous comparison to Antoine Walker or Ryan Anderson, says he's completely incapable of playing defense ever, is in fact a hater. I'm honestly surprised we haven't dove into Mormon hate yet.
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Post#618 » by LedZepp007 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:31 pm

So we lost our asses off and fared well in the lottery all to get the number two pick that people now want to trade? Can't make this **** up
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Post#619 » by bigdog34 » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:32 pm

I've been a a Parker guy this whole time, but I'm officially changing my tune to Wiggins. Defense, plus athleticism/upside...yes please!!

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Post#620 » by White+Purple » Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:34 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:So we lost our asses off and fared well in the lottery all to get the number two pick that people now want to trade? Can't make this **** up

Trading the pick nets you assets that are equal to the value of the pick.
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