Bulls looking at No. 8 with McDermott

[ChiefILL53]

Yikes, it could truly blow up in our face if we trade both picks for McDermott. I'm really not a fan of this, though I love hearing how active we are right now.

There's a strong possibility we could end up with Joel Embiid here. If we can get him, that'd be worth all this risk. It'd even be worth trading Taj for. How interesting would our future be if we end up with Embiid, Saric (at 16), and Mirotic all for 2015/2016?

I was GMin on 2k14 and one of the picks I traded for turned out to be No 3 and I took Embiid and traded Joakim. 2k Melo aint takin a paycut like real life Melo so I had to do wat I had to do lol. And I STILL drafted Stauskas

Who'd you trade Noah for?

Crap....cant remember. I think the Spurs for cap space and a pick? Maybe Splitter who I pawned off on someone else for complete space. I didnt wanna do him too bogus. We ended up winning the title tho. Cant remember if I kept Taj or not either...ive literally played to the 21-22 season lmfao.

[kingkirk]

Eh. A bit too high for my liking in terms of McDermott. If Bulls get 8th, it means they're guaranteed one of:

Wiggins
Parker
Exum
Embiid
Randle
Gordon
Stauskas
Smart

Hell, Vonleh too.

And you JUST gotta go with one of those instead.

This. I don't like McDermott at 8 one bit.

[DuckIII]

Step 1: Trade a bunch of stuff. Like, lots more than what you guys are talking about, for McDermott
Step 2: Have Melo laugh at the Bulls in free agency because they gutted the team for McDermott
Step 3: Keep Boozer because you can't get a star, save a fortune in cash and start selling fanbase on 2015 plan.

Step 1 is nonsense and there's no way you believe it despite what you heard. Our GMs are Gar Foreman and John Paxson, not Scott Layden and David Kahn.

As for something that could have some likelihood of happening, trading up for McDermott is hardly a bad idea. That's first. Second, the article includes Harris and Stauskas among possible targets. Third, Sacramento has always made sense to me as the trade up target. We have exactly the types of things they need. I love the idea of targeting that pick.

[kingkirk]

Embiid won't be available at 8. Noel dropped to 6 and he is no where near the prospect Embiid is/was.

Watch Boston take a stab at him at 6.

[Jahensle]

3 more days....the suspense

[Jahensle]

Embiid won't be available at 8. Noel dropped to 6 and he is no where near the prospect Embiid is/was.

Watch Boston take a stab at him at 6.

I think there is a small chance. Last year's draft wasn't quite as dense. Unlikely, but not out of the question...maybe 10 percent?

[kingkirk]

Step 1: Trade a bunch of stuff. Like, lots more than what you guys are talking about, for McDermott
Step 2: Have Melo laugh at the Bulls in free agency because they gutted the team for McDermott
Step 3: Keep Boozer because you can't get a star, save a fortune in cash and start selling fanbase on 2015 plan.

Step 1 is nonsense and there's no way you believe it despite what you heard. Our GMs are Gar Foreman and John Paxson, not Scott Layden and David Kahn.

As for something that could have some likelihood of happening, trading up for McDermott is hardly a bad idea. That's first. Second, the article includes Harris and Stauskas among possible targets. Third, Sacramento has always made sense to me as the trade up target. We have exactly the types of things they need. I love the idea of targeting that pick.

I am with Duck here.

Why are we assuming this move, if it were to even happen, would be our prize move? Why are we assuming we'd give up Taj and our other picks to move up and get McDermott whilst putting ourselves out of the running for Melo & Love?

We're jumping to conclusions here.

[DuckIII]

Mcdermott at 8?

Well,

wouldn't that be Cleveland'esque!

*shrugs* Draftexpress has him going at 8, fwiw.

This notion that he's a reach at 8 needs to die. The widely accepted projection is that he's top 10 pick.

Just putting it out there: This board thinks any big white guy lacking a sick behind the back crossover is going to be a bust. It has been that way every draft for the 10+ years I've been here. Its boring.

I've decided to start rooting for the Bulls to land McDermott just to swim upstream against the presumptive flood of bilious hate.

[kingkirk]

I think there is a small chance. Last year's draft wasn't quite as dense. Unlikely, but not out of the question...maybe 10 percent?

Personally, the players mocked to go 6-10 don't really do anything for me, and i almost prefer the guys in the 11-14 range due to the fact that it would cost less to move up in that range.

The 8th pick in this draft seems to middle of the road.

It's no coincidence that Boston, LA & Sac are all offering up their picks.

Pick 6-10 will land you your future Luol Deng. I think you can get that at pick 11-14, and possibly all the way up to 16, where we sit.

[kulaz3000]

Embiid won't be available at 8. Noel dropped to 6 and he is no where near the prospect Embiid is/was.

Watch Boston take a stab at him at 6.

Joel Embiid has undergone surgery on his injured foot and entered the draft process with back issues, and sources say that there are several other issues with his physical that need to be addressed.

Embiid could go as high as No. 3, but could certainly drop to the second half of the top-10.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... -Foot-Back

[DuckIII]

McDermott had more sustainable success as a shooter and is the more versatile scorer.

which is why i called him a rich man's morrison

Doug is a good player who will have trouble defending anyone and scoring at the rate he did in college.

adam morrison, anyone?

Do you think Jabari Parker = Adam Morrison? Too black?

I love this post.

[RememberLu]

Mcdermott at 8?

Well,

wouldn't that be Cleveland'esque!

*shrugs* Draftexpress has him going at 8, fwiw.

This notion that he's a reach at 8 needs to die. The widely accepted projection is that he's top 10 pick.

Just putting it out there: This board thinks any big white guy lacking a sick behind the back crossover is going to be a bust. It has been that way every draft for the 10+ years I've been here. Its boring.

I've decided to start rooting for the Bulls to land McDermott just to swim upstream against the presumptive flood of bilious hate.

it's not that he's white, it's that he's very slow footed and unathletic for the modern NBA

with Booz making his long awaited exit we have an opportunity to build our team based on speed and transition buckets. Like the Heat or the Blackhawks. If we get a bunch of slow footed guys like Dunleavy, McDermott, Mirotic, etc...it's back to D.Rose being a one man fast break

[ChiefILL53]

which is why i called him a rich man's morrison


adam morrison, anyone?

Do you think Jabari Parker = Adam Morrison? Too black?

I love this post.

That post is great.

[D_GoLow]

Literally every year the Bulls lead the league in "rumors." This year, something may happen, maybe?

[BuffaloBull]

Mcdermott at 8?

Well,

wouldn't that be Cleveland'esque!

*shrugs* Draftexpress has him going at 8, fwiw.

This notion that he's a reach at 8 needs to die. The widely accepted projection is that he's top 10 pick.

Just putting it out there: This board thinks any big white guy lacking a sick behind the back crossover is going to be a bust. It has been that way every draft for the 10+ years I've been here. Its boring.

I've decided to start rooting for the Bulls to land McDermott just to swim upstream against the presumptive flood of bilious hate.

Don't swim, Duck. Spread your wings and fly against the wind!

Seriously, though, the reason you would trade up and get McDermott (if you value him highly enough) vs just taking two cracks at 16 and 19 is that the Bulls have a mature roster and have a need for shooting at the 2/3 regardless of whether or not you land Melo. I see 4 really nice wing shooters in our range: McDermott, Stauskas, Harris, and Hood. It makes sense to just get the guy you like best, if you can, because Mirotic should be coming over as well, and once you get 2,3 rookies on your team, all the teaching slows down what you can do in practice and the level your whole team can reach.

[DuckIII]

Embiid won't be available at 8. Noel dropped to 6 and he is no where near the prospect Embiid is/was.

Watch Boston take a stab at him at 6.

I was laughing at Chad Ford saying that Embiid wouldn't fall past Philly at 10 because they have "2 lottery picks." No way Embiid falls past both the Celtics and the Lakers unless his foot breaks again due to his spine slipping out and falling on it.

[D_GoLow]

Embiid has more injury concerns than Noel where it was just his knee. With Embiid it's his foot (which is a big man's worst nightmare) & the back & "other issues."

There is no denying that Embiid does have more game than Noel though.

[Red Larrivee]

Brb, thinking of a random white player to compare McDermott to.

[DerrickRose025]

@NBARumorPress: Bulls, Kings talked at least a month ago, which we tweeted about in May. Landry, Thompson, McLemore, Gibson, Butler were all discussed.

@NBARumorPress: Motive behind Bulls-Kings talks: Cut salary, move up. Chicago isn't high on players at 16 or 19. Dunleavy was also discussed.


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[DuckIII]

*shrugs* Draftexpress has him going at 8, fwiw.

This notion that he's a reach at 8 needs to die. The widely accepted projection is that he's top 10 pick.

Just putting it out there: This board thinks any big white guy lacking a sick behind the back crossover is going to be a bust. It has been that way every draft for the 10+ years I've been here. Its boring.

I've decided to start rooting for the Bulls to land McDermott just to swim upstream against the presumptive flood of bilious hate.

Don't swim, Duck. Spread your wings and fly against the wind!

Seriously, though, the reason you would trade up and get McDermott (if you value him highly enough) vs just taking two cracks at 16 and 19 is that the Bulls have a mature roster and have a need for shooting at the 2/3 regardless of whether or not you land Melo. I see 4 really nice wing shooters in our range: McDermott, Stauskas, Harris, and Hood. It makes sense to just get the guy you like best, if you can, because Mirotic should be coming over as well, and once you get 2,3 rookies on your team, all the teaching slows down what you can do in practice and the level your whole team can reach.

I agree. I'm not even pro-Dougy. I'm pro-trading up to get the guy you like. And I see a group of guys that its reasonable for the Bulls to like for a variety of reasons. This treating of McDermott like the bust pariah of the top 10 is ridiculous and not based on anything other than perception bias.