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SVG speaks on Free Agency/Draft. "Decision made on Monroe" 

Post#1 » by Q00 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:01 pm

Too many tweets to post them all, but check out Langlois and Jennifer Hammond's twitter for the full recap.

I'll try to summarize below
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Re: SVG Speaks on Monroe, Free Agency, and Draft 

Post#2 » by Q00 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:01 pm

On Draft: He said they are unlikely to acquire a 1st round pick, and won't be trading any players or future #1's just to get into the 1st round this year. But if an opportunity to buy a late first round pick came up, they would be interested. Also, they're looking for high character, hard workers, with a specific skillset. They won't be taking guys with character issues just because they have talent/athleticism. He says he doesn't know his team well enough yet to take on those type of players right now. (That probably rules out Stephenson in FA too)

On FA: They won't be looking for home run. More likely to "hit 3 singles that drives a run in", and have 9 or 10 targets in mind.
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Re: SVG Speaks on Monroe, Free Agency, and Draft 

Post#3 » by Q00 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:04 pm

On Monroe:

Keith Langlois ‏@Keith_Langlois 30m
SVG says even with time spent on FA & draft, well more than 50% of his time has been devoted to Greg Monroe's situation.


Jennifer Hammond ‏@HammerFox2 30m
Van Gundy says "I think Greg Monroe is a very good, young big guy." Says they either want him back or want "good value" for him.


Keith Langlois ‏@Keith_Langlois 28m
SVG on Monroe: "We know exactly where we're headed on that."


Jennifer Hammond ‏@HammerFox2 28m
Van Gundy says team has talked about long term deal for Monroe. "We have certainly considered the option and discussed it."


Jennifer Hammond ‏@HammerFox2 17m
The decision has been made on what they are doing with the Greg Monroe decision as far as trades, matching offer
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Re: SVG Speaks on Monroe, Free Agency, and Draft 

Post#4 » by haulerch » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:11 pm

Yeah, I don't expect a big splash now obviously. Guys like Morrow, Meeks, and McRoberts are the guys I'm expecting to be brought in.

He also said that his core is: Drummond, Smith, Monroe, Jennings, KCP, Jonas, and Singler.

I really expect to see the same roster with the exception being added floor spacers that we desperately needed last year. I really do think Monroe will be gone, unless we are offered total garbage. I'm expecting a 40-47 win season with SVG at the helm, players being played at natural positions, and some actual shooters on this team.
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Re: SVG speaks on Free Agency/Draft. "Decision made on Monro 

Post#5 » by Kilo » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:15 pm

^Jonas interesting inclusion in that "core" mention, SVG said he made "gains with body, in good frame of mind".
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Re: SVG Speaks on Monroe, Free Agency, and Draft 

Post#6 » by Snakebites » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:16 pm

Interesting stuff about Monroe, but I guess there's no way of knowing what that decision actually is. Of course, if the decision is to move him they can't possibly know what that deal would entail.

His line of thinking on free agency appears to be similar what I was thinking about for the Pistons in terms of looking at relatively small improvements rather than attempting to use all cap space on one probably unrealistic target. If the remark about character issues doesn't rule out Stephenson, these remarks suggesting he has many targets and is hoping to add a few guys may rule him out (along with guys like Hayward) anyway.

Its good to see that SVG is operating with realistic expectations based on a sound assessment of the situation.
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Re: SVG speaks on Free Agency/Draft. "Decision made on Monro 

Post#7 » by Kilo » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:19 pm

Jennifer Hammond @HammerFox2 · 52m

Van Gundy wants to get a few more coaches on board, but says he'll get back to making staff decisions after Summer League.

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Has said in the past he wants to add a former NBA player to his staff.
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Van Gundy says #Pistons need an energy infusion. "Hopefully our returning guys decide to put more energy into the game."


Good to hear this, but I think winning will go along way in solving this issue.


Jennifer Hammond ‏@HammerFox2

SVG says @JonasJerebko has been the most consistent guy putting in time at the facility. "I think he's made some gains with his body."

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Re: SVG Speaks on Monroe, Free Agency, and Draft 

Post#8 » by Q00 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:22 pm

haulerch wrote:Yeah, I don't expect a big splash now obviously. Guys like Morrow, Meeks, and McRoberts are the guys I'm expecting to be brought in.

He also said that his core is: Drummond, Smith, Monroe, Jennings, KCP, Jonas, and Singler.

I really expect to see the same roster with the exception being added floor spacers that we desperately needed last year. I really do think Monroe will be gone, unless we are offered total garbage. I'm expecting a 40-47 win season with SVG at the helm, players being played at natural positions, and some actual shooters on this team.


The fact is if you aren't getting LeBron or Carmelo, there really is no such thing as a big splash FA signing in this class.

After those two, Monroe might be the best FA available.

That said, if you take his line about hitting "3 singles" literally, and consider the have about 24 mil to spend, that could mean they are looking at three 8 mil/yr guys.

So my guess is they'll still be setting their goals greater than just 3-4 mil/yr guys like Morrow and Meeks, even if not looking for big splashes.
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Re: SVG speaks on Free Agency/Draft. "Decision made on Monro 

Post#9 » by Kilo » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:26 pm

SVG said no decision has been made on Billups and Harrellson yet, but also mentioned having $13.5M in cap space with the Monroe hold taken into account. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that mean Billups money is off the books in that number?
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Re: SVG Speaks on Monroe, Free Agency, and Draft 

Post#10 » by haulerch » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:28 pm

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haulerch wrote:Yeah, I don't expect a big splash now obviously. Guys like Morrow, Meeks, and McRoberts are the guys I'm expecting to be brought in.

He also said that his core is: Drummond, Smith, Monroe, Jennings, KCP, Jonas, and Singler.

I really expect to see the same roster with the exception being added floor spacers that we desperately needed last year. I really do think Monroe will be gone, unless we are offered total garbage. I'm expecting a 40-47 win season with SVG at the helm, players being played at natural positions, and some actual shooters on this team.


The fact is if you aren't getting LeBron or Carmelo, there really is no such thing as a big splash FA signing in this class.

After those two, Monroe might be the best FA available.

That said, if you take his line about hitting "3 singles" literally, and consider the have about 24 mil to spend, that could mean they are looking at three 8 mil/yr guys.

So my guess is they'll still be setting their goals greater than just 3-4 mil/yr guys like Morrow and Meeks, even if not looking for big splashes.


I considered tying money up in Lowry, Stephenson, or Hayward a big splash pretty much due to them being the next big fish in this market.
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Re: SVG speaks on Free Agency/Draft. "Decision made on Monro 

Post#11 » by The Penguin » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:31 pm

I imagine the decision on Monroe is: "Monroe will be a Piston unless some team is willing to pay his contract AND give us back a player/picks befitting his value as a young big".


It looks like Stan's approach is going to be bringing in some role players/guys he knows and trust and seeing how everything fits together in his system before he makes any knee jerk drastic decisions. Basically a "wait and see approach" which should be refreshing after the Dumars "chicken with his head cut off" panic offseasons.
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Re: SVG Speaks on Monroe, Free Agency, and Draft 

Post#12 » by coordinator0 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:38 pm

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haulerch wrote:Yeah, I don't expect a big splash now obviously. Guys like Morrow, Meeks, and McRoberts are the guys I'm expecting to be brought in.

He also said that his core is: Drummond, Smith, Monroe, Jennings, KCP, Jonas, and Singler.

I really expect to see the same roster with the exception being added floor spacers that we desperately needed last year. I really do think Monroe will be gone, unless we are offered total garbage. I'm expecting a 40-47 win season with SVG at the helm, players being played at natural positions, and some actual shooters on this team.


The fact is if you aren't getting LeBron or Carmelo, there really is no such thing as a big splash FA signing in this class.

After those two, Monroe might be the best FA available.

That said, if you take his line about hitting "3 singles" literally, and consider the have about 24 mil to spend, that could mean they are looking at three 8 mil/yr guys.

So my guess is they'll still be setting their goals greater than just 3-4 mil/yr guys like Morrow and Meeks, even if not looking for big splashes.


They're going to have considerably less than $24 million to spend. If you just count who is under contract currently that's roughly the amount Detroit is under the projected cap but it's not that simple. They will either match an offer for Monroe or he will be included in a sign-and-trade and a good chunk of salary will be coming back to the Pistons. In the meantime his cap hold Is just a bit over $10 million and I would bet my life that's not getting renounced.
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Re: SVG Speaks on Monroe, Free Agency, and Draft 

Post#13 » by Q00 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:46 pm

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haulerch wrote:Yeah, I don't expect a big splash now obviously. Guys like Morrow, Meeks, and McRoberts are the guys I'm expecting to be brought in.

He also said that his core is: Drummond, Smith, Monroe, Jennings, KCP, Jonas, and Singler.

I really expect to see the same roster with the exception being added floor spacers that we desperately needed last year. I really do think Monroe will be gone, unless we are offered total garbage. I'm expecting a 40-47 win season with SVG at the helm, players being played at natural positions, and some actual shooters on this team.


The fact is if you aren't getting LeBron or Carmelo, there really is no such thing as a big splash FA signing in this class.

After those two, Monroe might be the best FA available.

That said, if you take his line about hitting "3 singles" literally, and consider the have about 24 mil to spend, that could mean they are looking at three 8 mil/yr guys.

So my guess is they'll still be setting their goals greater than just 3-4 mil/yr guys like Morrow and Meeks, even if not looking for big splashes.


They're going to have considerably less than $24 million to spend. If you just count who is under contract currently that's roughly the amount Detroit is under the projected cap but it's not that simple. They will either match an offer for Monroe or he will be included in a sign-and-trade and a good chunk of salary will be coming back to the Pistons. In the meantime his cap hold Is just a bit over $10 million and I would bet my life that's not getting renounced.


SVG just said they have 13.5 mil to spend, accounting for Monroe's 10 mil caphold.

13.5 + 10 = ~24 mil to spend

Whether they resign Monroe or not, he's only going to take up 10 mil of our space. So if you count him as one of the "singles", that leaves money left for two more 7 mil/yr guys.

Even if they trade him, say for Ryan Anderson who makes 7-8 mil/yr, that would still leave them enough space for two more 7-8 mil/yr guys.

So anyway you look at, we have 24 mil to spend in free agency. Some of it might go to Monroe. Some of it might go to the guy we trade Monroe for, but that's the total we have to spend. Which could be more based on Billups/Harrelson.
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Re: SVG Speaks on Monroe, Free Agency, and Draft 

Post#14 » by Q00 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:50 pm

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haulerch wrote:Yeah, I don't expect a big splash now obviously. Guys like Morrow, Meeks, and McRoberts are the guys I'm expecting to be brought in.

He also said that his core is: Drummond, Smith, Monroe, Jennings, KCP, Jonas, and Singler.

I really expect to see the same roster with the exception being added floor spacers that we desperately needed last year. I really do think Monroe will be gone, unless we are offered total garbage. I'm expecting a 40-47 win season with SVG at the helm, players being played at natural positions, and some actual shooters on this team.


The fact is if you aren't getting LeBron or Carmelo, there really is no such thing as a big splash FA signing in this class.

After those two, Monroe might be the best FA available.

That said, if you take his line about hitting "3 singles" literally, and consider the have about 24 mil to spend, that could mean they are looking at three 8 mil/yr guys.

So my guess is they'll still be setting their goals greater than just 3-4 mil/yr guys like Morrow and Meeks, even if not looking for big splashes.


I considered tying money up in Lowry, Stephenson, or Hayward a big splash pretty much due to them being the next big fish in this market.


I don't think any 7-8 mil/yr FA signing is ever considered a big splash. That's slightly above a mid-level signing. Think Jennings, Monta, Calderon type signings from last year.

I also think Lowry/Hayward will get way more than 7-8 mil/yr, so I wasn't considering them as targets. I'm thinking more like the Ariza caliber guys.
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Re: SVG speaks on Free Agency/Draft. "Decision made on Monro 

Post#15 » by kurtis48239 » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:29 pm

I was really hoping we would have gone after one of lowry,hayward,deng,ariza,stephenson.It sounds like we are going to roll with the same team but with a couple of bench guys,which really sucks.
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Post#16 » by ImHeisenberg » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:00 pm

Kilo wrote:^Jonas interesting inclusion in that "core" mention, SVG said he made "gains with body, in good frame of mind".


Jerebko is a skilled player, despite his flaws. I could have seen him being very effective in SVG's Orlando system.
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Post#17 » by ImHeisenberg » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:11 pm

kurtis48239 wrote:I was really hoping we would have gone after one of lowry,hayward,deng,ariza,stephenson.It sounds like we are going to roll with the same team but with a couple of bench guys,which really sucks.


Yeah, that would have been the sexy choice. But, who knows? Maybe SVGBow plan to absorb some salary and take a future first as payment for a team who wants to get in on the LeBron sweepstakes and want to retain flexibility to do so?

Let's be honest, none of those names were going to be a transform Detroit.
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Post#18 » by DetroitPistons » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:42 pm

kurtis48239 wrote:I was really hoping we would have gone after one of lowry,hayward,deng,ariza,stephenson.It sounds like we are going to roll with the same team but with a couple of bench guys,which really sucks.


Yeah I'm not a big fan of quantity over quality. I think we should push hard for a good SF and PG like some of the guys you mentioned.
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Post#19 » by paQo the BAWSER » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:46 pm

I would take Smith over Monroe, but at this point, I absolutely trust on SVG and whatever he does, at least until the end of the season.
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Post#20 » by princeofpalace » Tue Jun 24, 2014 10:56 pm

[tweet]http://twitter.com/vgoodwill/status/481537452889219074[/tweet]
So it sounds like the decision is to retain Monroe, but he doesn't want to say what the $ figure is

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