2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA)

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Who advances from Group D?

Poll ended at Sat Jun 21, 2014 1:19 am

Uruguay
39
30%
Costa Rica
7
5%
England
30
23%
Italy
53
41%
 
Total votes: 129

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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1541 » by cgf » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:24 am

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Doormatt wrote:i was wrong too, Suarez bit him before the goal. so it wouldve had a huge impact on the game if it had been called since i dont see Uruguay coming back from that.

ugh... just **** Luis Suarez.


I had to listen to that one on the radio while being productive so I wasn't too sure, but I thought it had riled Chielini up which contributed to the eventual uruguayan goal, or at least that's how the bargirl explained it to me today, but I'm not always skeptical when americans start talking about the game during the WC so I didn't check up on it.


ive tried to block the game out since it wouldve been in poor taste to show up to work black out drunk.


lol I can't blame you, this world cup has made me and my list of "true contenders" look like a real **** with Spain, Italy and probably portugal not even getting out of the group, us and Brazil are the only ones from my top 5 who look like they won't **** it up early.

Plus I'm still that way with the 2012 and 2006 semi finals.
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Post#1542 » by EArl » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:45 am

looks like suarez will get a minimum 2 game suspension according to WT
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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1543 » by ROballer » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:49 am

mjba wrote:no need to comment on the bite, or ppl defending it. absolutely mind-boggling that this could happen again. i do think that Rasho (I think) is right in that ppl were coming around after Ivanovic.

he'll obviously be rubbed out of the tournament. would be an awful shame for Liverpool (and the EPL) to lose him for the whole year, but i can't really see any other alternative for FIFA and/or the FA.

anyone knows what the procedure is from here? they'll obviously have to make a decision on the WC pretty soon. will that decision also be in the form of a world wide ban?


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Post#1544 » by GMgoran » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:42 am

As a lifelong LFC supporter, I couldn't care less if Suarez has bitten Chiellini's nose off in front of the cameras ... Suarez receives so much beating from the opposition defenders, and Chiellini is one of the dirtiest defenders around ... And yes, we know that Suarez is crazy, and we still love him ...
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Post#1545 » by Ted Lasso » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:53 am

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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1546 » by Doormatt » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:01 am

GMgoran wrote:As a lifelong LFC supporter, I couldn't care less if Suarez has bitten Chiellini's nose off in front of the cameras ... Suarez receives so much beating from the opposition defenders, and Chiellini is one of the dirtiest defenders around ... And yes, we know that Suarez is crazy, and we still love him ...


welp thanks for clearing that up.

TIL if the opposition is beating you up its okay to bite them. thank god for you GMorgan, you bring us true wisdom.
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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1547 » by GMgoran » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:20 am

Doormatt wrote:
GMgoran wrote:As a lifelong LFC supporter, I couldn't care less if Suarez has bitten Chiellini's nose off in front of the cameras ... Suarez receives so much beating from the opposition defenders, and Chiellini is one of the dirtiest defenders around ... And yes, we know that Suarez is crazy, and we still love him ...


welp thanks for clearing that up.

TIL if the opposition is beating you up its okay to bite them. thank god for you GMorgan, you bring us true wisdom.


Personally, I would have preferred if he has headbutted him in the same way that Zidane has headbutted Materazzi, but Luis obviously prefers biting ... Like I have said, we love Suarez and couldn't care less about the false morality in the game where some star players are beating their wives, sleep with their teammates' and brothers' wives, use drugs and are regularly caught DUI ...
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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1548 » by treiz » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:35 am

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Like a lion catching his prey. Why not just elbow the guy. The biting is strange.

no idea why he doesn't react with a push/punch like normal people looool , its hilarious. No way he lives this down , everywhere he goes in public , every game he plays he will be goaded and ridiculed loool


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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1549 » by treiz » Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:41 am

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Anyway, I'm curious whether the outrage in england gets Woy fired. He's not the only problem but he's certainly a big part of it and a perfect symbol for the type of archaic thinking that's trapped england in this endless limbo that only time-travel seems capable of correcting.


Everybody here is behind Roy, even the head of FA. So it's safe to say he won't be going anytime soon. I think it's more because of a lack of options out there than Roy being good going forward.
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Post#1550 » by Next Coming » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:40 am

Literally no one is stalking about Lebron or Roy. Suarez is amazing.
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Post#1551 » by EuroPacer » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:44 am

GMgoran wrote:Personally, I would have preferred if he has headbutted him in the same way that Zidane has headbutted Materazzi, but Luis obviously prefers biting ... Like I have said, we love Suarez and couldn't care less about the false morality in the game where some star players are beating their wives, sleep with their teammates' and brothers' wives, use drugs and are regularly caught DUI ...


As an FC Groningen fan (you should know the club if you know Suarez) I can honestly say: You are mad. We loved him in Groningen, despite his antics, trust me, it gets tiresome once he leaves the hallowed field of An.

treiz wrote:Everybody here is behind Roy, even the head of FA. So it's safe to say he won't be going anytime soon. I think it's more because of a lack of options out there than Roy being good going forward.


Yes you are right that everybody is behind him here and frankly, everybody is wrong. Roy is a soft touch and he fell to playing four strikers in the two (LOST) opening games. He didn't play those that would have served his tactic, he made a tactic to serve those in the team he chose 'because they are our best players'. Wonderful, but absolutely useless if it means playing four strikers, three of which were out of position as a consequence.

He should have manned up and played a 5-2-2-1 with Rooney up front. He had the personnel for it:

Hart, Baines, Johnson, Jones, Cahill, Smalling, Gerrard, Henderson, Sterling, Lallana, Rooney or even play Rooney and Sturridge up front and drop Lallana.
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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1552 » by Next Coming » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:44 am

Doormatt wrote:i was wrong too, Suarez bit him before the goal. so it wouldve had a huge impact on the game if it had been called since i dont see Uruguay coming back from that.

ugh... just **** Luis Suarez.


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Post#1553 » by Baphomet » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:48 am

GMgoran wrote:Personally, I would have preferred if he has headbutted him in the same way that Zidane has headbutted Materazzi, but Luis obviously prefers biting ... Like I have said, we love Suarez and couldn't care less about the false morality in the game where some star players are beating their wives, sleep with their teammates' and brothers' wives, use drugs and are regularly caught DUI ...


That is a false equivalence. Universally reprehensible antics and a grown man biting another on a football pitch don't belong under the same 'morality of the game' umbrella, they're different issues entirely. However, just because some football players have done incredibly sh*tty things off the pitch doesn't make Luis Suarez any less of a fool. We're not talking about a bad tackle here, he **** bit the guy like a rabid dog, and it's not like it's the first time. He deserves every word of criticism he's receiving, and if Liverpool fans had any sense they would share that same ire.
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Post#1554 » by GMgoran » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:50 am

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GMgoran wrote:Personally, I would have preferred if he has headbutted him in the same way that Zidane has headbutted Materazzi, but Luis obviously prefers biting ... Like I have said, we love Suarez and couldn't care less about the false morality in the game where some star players are beating their wives, sleep with their teammates' and brothers' wives, use drugs and are regularly caught DUI ...


As an FC Groningen fan (you should know the club if you know Suarez) I can honestly say: You are mad. We loved him in Groningen, despite his antics, trust me, it gets tiresome once he leaves the hallowed field of An.


I know your club since the days of Milko Gjurovski ... :wink:
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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1555 » by GMgoran » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:59 am

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GMgoran wrote:Personally, I would have preferred if he has headbutted him in the same way that Zidane has headbutted Materazzi, but Luis obviously prefers biting ... Like I have said, we love Suarez and couldn't care less about the false morality in the game where some star players are beating their wives, sleep with their teammates' and brothers' wives, use drugs and are regularly caught DUI ...


That is a false equivalence. Universally reprehensible antics and a grown man biting another on a football pitch don't belong under the same 'morality of the game' umbrella, they're different issues entirely. However, just because some football players have done incredibly sh*tty things off the pitch doesn't make Luis Suarez any less of a fool. We're not talking about a bad tackle here, he **** bit the guy like a rabid dog. He deserves every word of criticism he's receiving, and if Liverpool fans had any sense they would share that same ire.


Mate, you don't seem to get it ... In a country where John Terry was the captain on the national team after it was made public that he has shagged his teammate's wife, and in a league where Ryan Giggs is considered a legend after it was made public that he has shagged his brother's wife for years, we couldn't care less about Suarez biting someone ... He will be banned from international football, so he won't have to travel to all those meaningless international friendlies, and he will be more focused on LFC ...
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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1556 » by EuroPacer » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:10 am

GMgoran wrote:
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GMgoran wrote:Personally, I would have preferred if he has headbutted him in the same way that Zidane has headbutted Materazzi, but Luis obviously prefers biting ... Like I have said, we love Suarez and couldn't care less about the false morality in the game where some star players are beating their wives, sleep with their teammates' and brothers' wives, use drugs and are regularly caught DUI ...


As an FC Groningen fan (you should know the club if you know Suarez) I can honestly say: You are mad. We loved him in Groningen, despite his antics, trust me, it gets tiresome once he leaves the hallowed field of An.


I know your club since the days of Milko Gjurovski ... :wink:


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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1557 » by treiz » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:14 am

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treiz wrote:Everybody here is behind Roy, even the head of FA. So it's safe to say he won't be going anytime soon. I think it's more because of a lack of options out there than Roy being good going forward.


Yes you are right that everybody is behind him here and frankly, everybody is wrong. Roy is a soft touch and he fell to playing four strikers in the two (LOST) opening games. He didn't play those that would have served his tactic, he made a tactic to serve those in the team he chose 'because they are our best players'. Wonderful, but absolutely useless if it means playing four strikers, three of which were out of position as a consequence.

He should have manned up and played a 5-2-2-1 with Rooney up front. He had the personnel for it:

Hart, Baines, Johnson, Jones, Cahill, Smalling, Gerrard, Henderson, Sterling, Lallana, Rooney or even play Rooney and Sturridge up front and drop Lallana.


I've already discussed in lengths what he could've done to make us a more balanced side. But, apart from Roy who are the alternatives out there to replace him? Bare in mind they would probably want to stick to a British manager because the whole Cappello debacle.

Also, Sterling isn't a striker, and playing Jones and Smalling at CB would've resulted in a disaster as well as playing with 3 at the back since nobody apart from Johnson has the experience playing in that formation. He had the right formation, but just maybe a few minor tweaks in both games, I like Roy as a coach but he sometimes he just needs to not let it be personal and set up a team according to the situation and it's his situational management is where he falters massively.
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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1558 » by treiz » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:17 am

Uruguayan media attacks the English :lol:

Some of the quotes are gems though
"In our view, the TV images are not clear and you can’t see Suarez biting Chiellini’s shoulder.

"What you can see is Suarez stumbling after his jump for the ball, falling after hitting the shoulder of the tall Italian player with his face and ending up hurt as well, while Chiellini too falls to the ground with evident signs of pain because of the impact.

"It would be good if these English people that are worried and are pushing to have Suarez suspended, explain how they won the World Cup in 1966 with a goal that wasn’t a goal, that bounced in front of the goal line after hitting the underside of the crossbar.”


To top it off here's Lugano with another gem:
"I’ve just watched the TV images and I didn’t see anything.

"What I saw was a struggle and a photo of Chiellini which showed an old scar.

"You have to be stupid to imagine that scar is recent, very stupid.


The Uruguayan media knows no bounds :lol:

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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1559 » by GMgoran » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:18 am

EuroPacer wrote:
GMgoran wrote:
EuroPacer wrote:
As an FC Groningen fan (you should know the club if you know Suarez) I can honestly say: You are mad. We loved him in Groningen, despite his antics, trust me, it gets tiresome once he leaves the hallowed field of An.


I know your club since the days of Milko Gjurovski ... :wink:


You wiki'd that! If not than that is great knowledge :)


I am a Macedonian, mate ... And I have actually had the chance to meet Milko ... He was another crazy f*cker on the pitch, but very likable off the pitch ... :lol:
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Re: 2014 FIFA World Cup: Group D (URA/CRC/ENG/ITA) 

Post#1560 » by Rasheeed!!! » Wed Jun 25, 2014 11:20 am

hilarious circumstances! Suarez is an absolute dog that deserves everything that will happen to him but so glad it all happened to Italy lol

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