2019 Minor Leagues/Prospect Discussion Thread

Post #621 » by **Schad** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:12 am

dagger wrote:I wouldn't trade Norris (in a package) for anyone but a #1 starter. Right now, he's ahead of Sanchez on my list, and once they stretch him out, I don't see why we don;t promote him to BUF or even bring him all the way up if circumstances allow. He already seems to be too good for this level, just needs innings

AA is generally considered a big step, so I'd expect that they'd give him some time there just to ensure that they don't undo the gains. Would not surprise me in the slightest if he reaches AAA for a couple starts by the end of the year though, and enters next year as the heir presumptive.

And yeah, he has too much about him to trade as part of a package unless it's bringing back a #1 with years of control. High-end lefties don't grow on trees, and the young, cheap rotation/veteran, well-paid hitting thing is a great way to extend our window (and payroll).

dagger · Post #622 » by **dagger** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:42 am

We get on DJ Davis for his Ks, and rightly so, but from the sounds of it, he had a nice one tonight flashing multiple tools:

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3. D.J. Davis threw out a man at the plate, created a run by himself (BB/SB/e-2/WP), and drove in the go-ahead run on an 0-2 pitch. Superb.

Also, a possibility for the future bullpen: Griffin Murphy with his 13th save at Lansing, a lefty who is almost untouchable at that level. Seems to have found his niche after failing as a starter

guvernator · Post #623 » by **guvernator** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:27 am

This time last year, Norris' command was less than desirable and he was basically at the verge being irrelevant. Now he is considered by most to be the best prospect in the system. People need to keep that in mind before they write Sanchez off. A little tweak here, a small advice there... from a different set of coaches may be all he needs to turn his career around.

Lateral Quicks · Post #624 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:37 pm

guvernator wrote:This time last year, Norris' command was less than desirable and he was basically at the verge being irrelevant. Now he is considered by most to be the best prospect in the system. People need to keep that in mind before they write Sanchez off. A little tweak here, a small advice there... from a different set of coaches may be all he needs to turn his career around.

I don't think anyone is giving up Sanchez. He's turning 22 July 1st and he's already in AAA ball. He's got a couple years to figure it out before he becomes a failed prospect. That said, his trends are not good: stable to increasing BB/9 and decreasing K/9 ratios. It still sounds like his mechanics need work; hopefully he's open to some changes and the control improves.

Graham's Cracker · Post #625 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:09 pm

Conner 'Ballstein' Greene male model is moonlighting on the mound today for GCL Jays. 4 scoreless so far with just a hit and a walk.

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-MetA4- · Post #626 » by **-MetA4-** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:25 pm

Jake Brentz comes on in the 6th to replace Greene. Get the popcorn ready LOL.

There There · Post #627 » by **There There** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:34 pm

-MetA4- wrote:Jake Brentz comes on in the 6th to replace Greene. Get the popcorn ready LOL.

Got through his first inning with just a single walk. It's evolution.

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There There · Post #628 » by **There There** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 5:46 pm

.... and it's looking like he's coming undone in his second frame.

Graham's Cracker · Post #629 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:23 pm

There There wrote:.... and it's looking like he's coming undone in his second frame.

Brentz makes early Ricky Vaughn look like Greg Maddux. 3 walks and 2 wild pitches in 3 innings today.

There There · Post #630 » by **There There** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:25 pm

Graham's Cracker wrote:
There There wrote:.... and it's looking like he's coming undone in his second frame.

Brentz makes Ricky Vaughn look like Greg Maddux. 3 walks and 2 wild pitches in 3 innings today.

And that's actually an improvement.

It's going to be a long road for him, but at least it should be fun.

Graham's Cracker · Post #631 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:37 pm

There There wrote:
Graham's Cracker wrote:
There There wrote:.... and it's looking like he's coming undone in his second frame.

Brentz makes Ricky Vaughn look like Greg Maddux. 3 walks and 2 wild pitches in 3 innings today.

And that's actually an improvement.

It's going to be a long road for him, but at least it should be fun.

Yeah, at least we made it out of his first inning this go around. Going back to last year, he never pitched more than 1 inning, so getting in there for 3 was a good step.

Graham's Cracker · Post #632 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 8:17 pm

Fangraphs - Fringe Five

Daniel Norris, LHP, Toronto (Profile)
One could pretty reasonably dispute the notion that Norris is a fringe prospect. Indeed, the left-hander was drafted originally in the second round and appeared before the 2012 season on Baseball America’s top-100 list and has advanced through Toronto’s system with a celerity typical of more promising younger players. That said, he appeared on none of the relevant top-100 lists prior to this season — and, as a result, has perhaps received less of the attention of late that his recent achievement probably merits. As with Seth Mejias-Brean (above), Norris made his debut at Double-A last week after a promising half-season at High-A. Also like Mejias-Brean, Norris has produced startlingly proficient fielding-independent numbers so far, having recorded now a 19:4 strikeout-to-walk ratio after just two starts and 11.1 innings with the New Hampshire Fisher Cats.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-fringe-five-baseballs-most-compelling-fringe-prospects-30/

Norris was also part of the BA top 50 prospects debate today as well.

dagger · Post #633 » by **dagger** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:42 pm

Sean Reid-Foley starts Friday.

torontoaces04 · Post #634 » by **torontoaces04** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:57 pm

dagger wrote:Sean Reid-Foley starts Friday.

Can't wait!!

dagger · Post #635 » by **dagger** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:37 am

Norris and Pompey have formed a mutual admiration society - based on two brief but very impactful five minute meetings.

http://www.canadianbaseballnetwork.com/ ... is-pompey/

Graham's Cracker · Post #636 » by **Graham's Cracker** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:39 am

Sanchez's 3rd AAA start is now getting underway. Interesting matchup with him and Danny Salazar.

Edit: So far so good - 2 K's 10 of 12 pitches for strikes through 1

dagger · Post #637 » by **dagger** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:42 am

Graham's Cracker wrote:Sanchez's 3rd AAA start is now getting underway. Interesting matchup with him and Danny Salazar.

Edit: So far so good - 2 K's 10 of 12 pitches for strikes through 1

Same so-so outcome

4.1 IP, 1R 1ER, 3H, 4BB, 7K - so seven base runners and seven Ks in 4.1. Distressing: 87 pitches, 49 strikes.

Lateral Quicks · Post #638 » by **Lateral Quicks** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:41 pm

Pompey's had a good couple of games. Slash line up to .317/.397/.472 with 12 doubles, 6 triples and 6 home runs. Also 28 stolen bases in 30 attempts. Mysteriously he's still in Dunedin.

Tyrone Slothrop · Post #639 » by **Tyrone Slothrop** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:26 am

How's Bruno Caboclo's fastball?

Santoki · Post #640 » by **Santoki** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 11:53 am

Tyrone Slothrop wrote:How's Bruno Caboclo's fastball?

All the two years away from being two years away makes sense now. He's starting in A-ball.