jdm3 wrote:Bucks2585 wrote:Wanted to see what fans of these teams thought of a trade like this, what do you think?
Sacramento, Charlotte, and Orlando Make a 3 way Trade:
Charlotte Trades: Gerald Henderson, Brandon Haywood, #9
Receives: #12, Aaron Afflalo, Travis Outlaw
Looking to upgrade on Henderson but still wanting to add a prospect in the lottery, Affalo gives the Bobcats a legitimate floor spreader from the 2-guard spot who can contribute in all aspects of the game. Afflallo should fit well in an inside out game with Al Jefferson and as a drive and kick option for Kemba. With Afflalo, Jefferson, and Kemba, they have 3 legitimate scoring options in the starting lineup that provide a good mix of driving, post play, and shooting which makes them a much more dangerous offense. They have to move down to #12, but still feel they can acquire a good player 3 spots later and take on Outlaw as a poor contract for Haywood, but also get out of Haywoods contract a year earlier.
Sacramento Trades: Jason Thompson, Jason Terry, Travis Outlaw, #8
Sacramento Receives: Jameer Nelson, Gerald Henderson
Looking for the right blend of veteran players to pair with their two star players Rudy Gay and DeMarcus Cousins, the key is to look for upgrades that can be a threat every game, but also know their role and won't dominate the ball like Isiah Thomas and make sure their key playmakers get the ball. Nelson has taken on the role of a true PG as his career has progressed, becoming more of a distributor over a scorer. He has 3 point range on his shot, key playoff experience, and with the team likely to lose or trade Isiah Thomas, is a true win now PG for this team that should fit in well with Cousins and Gay in that he can set up shots for them and get them the ball. Henderson slots in as an average SG, one that can contribute as a scorer. In using the #8 pick as well in this trade, they are also able to shed 3 of their worst contracts and dedicate their money to the sole purpose of contributing veterans for this team that provide a balance of talent in their starting lineup and remove ineffective bench players.
Orlando Trades: #12, Aaron Afflalo, Jameer Nelson
Orlando Receives: #8, #9, Jason Thompson, Jason Terry, Brandon Haywood.
Orlando looks solely to acquire assets to continue to build their young team as they now have 3 top 10 picks on what looks to be a strong draft. Nelson and Afflalo aren't in their future plans, but they are able to move up and acquire another pick for them by taking on bad contracts. Thompson and Haywood aren't world beaters, but on this team, they add much needed size at the 4 and 5 spots. Meanwhile, they take on Terry as an expiring, but hope maybe he has a resurgence and provide a backup at least to Oladipo at SG and be able to function as an undersized 2 guard next to what should be two bigger PG/SG starters in Oladipo and Smart/Exum, where his size won't be as big a detriment.
I don't like this for us. Would rather not move Haywood for Outlaw because the last year of Haywood's contract could be used as an asset for a luxury tax team trying to cut costs. Orlando is getting quite a lot for AA and taking on Thompson.
Thats basically saying that you would pay Haywood an extra year in the off chance that he MIGHT be an asset instead of just taking a player that expires next year. Idk about you, but I consider just the open cap space more of an asset then a veteran like Brandon Haywood as an asset.
And for the just Henderson+9 and Afflalo+12 doesn't really work for Orlando really. They don't need Henderson, they reason they are trading Afflalo is pretty much to open up playing time for Oladipo. They wouldn't want to take on another SG. They seem to be looking to base their lineup around Oladipo and this #4 pick which likely is a PG/SG hybrid. Henderson just gets in the way. Adding Sacremento gives him a destination.
Orlando is also taking on a year of Terry and and extra year of Haywood. They are also giving the Kings a starting PG because all indications are Thomas is not coming back next year. Unlike Orlando, you and Sacremento are upgrading your roster while Orlando is taking on nothing but dead weight. They get the #8 pick for basically giving a way for Sacremento to get out of $15 Million of absolutely terrible contracts while giving them a way to get what is likely 2 starters(Thomas is looking like hes gone) and swapping your pick for giving you Afflalo as an upgrade at the SG spot and you get out of Haywoods contract a year earlier, which I see as pretty good for you guys. Lets be honest, do you really want to pay Haywood that money when you could use it on another spot? He just seems redundant with Jefferson getting most of the C minutes, Biyombo getting the backup C minutes, and hopefully a guy like Zeller and McRoberts getting the minutes at the 4 spot. Outlaw, while pretty bad, could function as a 5th "big" in a sense in that he can play the 4 for stretches. Haywood, as a C at least would be the 4th C on the roster I would want getting minutes behind Jefferson, Biyombo, and Zeller. So you get a little more roster balance out of it as well, Outlaw as a 3rd SF, 3rd PF, etc. End of the bench players either way so its not really the major point of the trade, but Outlaw vs. Haywood, I view it more as a chance to balance the roster a bit more. Sacramento is the big winner though which I why Orlando gets #8, they are looking to compete now. Thats nearly impossible with that #15 Million tied up in terrible players and Cousins and Gay on such big deals. Henderson and Nelson at least are effective off the bench, but are solid starters for them.
