Stein: Raptors in hunt for MEM's #22

Bertoo · Post #101 » by **Bertoo** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:26 pm

Can't get too excited until it actually goes through, but my god this would be an amazing move!

SHFT · Post #102 » by **SHFT** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:26 pm

Omg if all we have to do is give up fish and 59 for the 22nd pick I would be so happpppy.

ALL HAIL UJIRI!!!!!!!!

makes sense that it is memphis too

wtcantfw · Post #103 » by **wtcantfw** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:26 pm

Chriscross wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:37 is still in a good range to get a good player. I'd prefer the original deal with 59, but then again we get all the best pieces in the proposed deal either way.

Prince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Salmons
22>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 37 or 59

??

We can waive Salmons for the cost of a million and Prince is making 8 million I believe. Prince is a terrible basketball player these days

Its a good deal but Prince is not better than Salmons in anyway

Except for on the entire defensive side of the court. Prince can still defend at a high level.

dagger · Post #104 » by **dagger** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:26 pm

Rhythm043 wrote:Really targeting Ennis hard. I guess they want to make plans for life without Lowry?

I don't see that at all. Lowry's situation is independent of this. I think we'd be just as happy to draft Napier at #20, and one of them is very likely going to be available at #20.

HolyMage110 · Post #105 » by **HolyMage110** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:26 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
HolyMage110 wrote:does this mean one of vasquez or lowry is gone?

Not really - Lowry will be the starter but he really needs a back up PG. Lowry can't keep playing heavy minutes like the does (got hurt for the playoffs, but still played)> GV may go, but Casey likes using GV as the SG, so that may take care of itself.

but taking on this contract, doesnt it shove us in the corner a bit when trying to get these guys back in free agency (Pat too). Prince and Fields contract almost amount to like 14 mill.

gerrit4 · Post #106 » by **gerrit4** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:27 pm

Just updated - it would be the 37th pick, not the 59th. Not as sweet, but I think it's still good if they really like someone.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #107 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:27 pm

Maybe, we trade up to #8?

mtcan · Post #108 » by **mtcan** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:27 pm

Rhythm043 wrote:Really targeting Ennis hard. I guess they want to make plans for life without Lowry?

Life without Nando really.

HeirCanada10 · Post #109 » by **HeirCanada10** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:27 pm

RaptorLakerJay wrote: [tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/482193662219407360[/tweet]

IN A HEARTBEAT. SO FAR THIS IS THE BEST VALUE FOR JOHN SAMONS I HAVE HEARD OF SINCE THE RAPTORS FINISHED THE PLAYOFFS.

I'm sure Masai Ujiri is still exploring other possibilities to see if he can get better offers. If nothing else occurs then take this and run immediately. We would then have draft picks #20, 22, and 37. I really want Damien Inglis and we can make that happen with #22.

HolyMage110 · Post #110 » by **HolyMage110** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:28 pm

gerrit4 wrote:Just updated - it would be the 37th pick, not the 59th. Not as sweet, but I think it's still good if they really like someone.

oh wtf

youngtea · Post #111 » by **youngtea** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:28 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
HolyMage110 wrote:does this mean one of vasquez or lowry is gone?

Not really - Lowry will be the starter but he really needs a back up PG. Lowry can't keep playing heavy minutes like the does (got hurt for the playoffs, but still played)> GV may go, but Casey likes using GV as the SG, so that may take care of itself.

Patterson might be gone. Don't see us paying him the money he deserves on the next contract.

tdotboyy · Post #112 » by **tdotboyy** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:28 pm

Watch this guy turns 22 and 20 into a top 10 pick

wtcantfw · Post #113 » by **wtcantfw** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:28 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Maybe, we trade up to #8?

Not based on the latest Spears tweet:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/482196120404504577[/tweet]

SHFT · Post #114 » by **SHFT** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:29 pm

Roland Brice wrote:37 is still in a good range to get a good player. I'd prefer the original deal with 59, but then again we get all the best pieces in the proposed deal either way.

Prince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Salmons
22>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 37 or 59

This

m83588333 · Post #115 » by **m83588333** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:29 pm

HolyMage110 wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:
HolyMage110 wrote:does this mean one of vasquez or lowry is gone?

Not really - Lowry will be the starter but he really needs a back up PG. Lowry can't keep playing heavy minutes like the does (got hurt for the playoffs, but still played)> GV may go, but Casey likes using GV as the SG, so that may take care of itself.

but taking on this contract, doesnt it shove us in the corner a bit when trying to get these guys back in free agency (Pat too). Prince and Fields contract almost amount to like 14 mill.

Toronto has Bird Rights resigning our own players just involves staying under the luxury. FA require cap space or contracts

Chriscross · Post #116 » by **Chriscross** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:29 pm

Roland Brice wrote:
Chriscross wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:37 is still in a good range to get a good player. I'd prefer the original deal with 59, but then again we get all the best pieces in the proposed deal either way.

Prince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Salmons
22>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 37 or 59

??

We can waive Salmons for the cost of a million and Prince is making 8 million I believe. Prince is a terrible basketball player these days

Its a good deal but Prince is not better than Salmons in anyway

On the court he definitely is. I'm not talking about the cap hit, just basketball.

They are about the same

Prince TS% .438 WS 1.5 PER 8.2
Salmons TS% .462 WS 1.7 PER 7.8

tdotboyy · Post #117 » by **tdotboyy** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:29 pm

the last time this many people was online was game 7 lmao

rapsrealm · Post #118 » by **rapsrealm** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:29 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Ennis and Stokes would be my guess with the 2 picks.

This is my guess too.

youngtea · Post #119 » by **youngtea** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:30 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:
cb4_jo6 wrote:
Mark Deeks @MarkDeeksNBA · 2m
If this goes through, Masai Ujiri will have landed two first round picks in a stacked draft for Andrea Bargnani and John Salmons.

What does Bargnani have to do with this?

The #37 pick was the pick we got from the Knicks when trading Bargnani.

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan · Post #120 » by **theonlyeastcoastrapsfan** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:30 pm

IMO, this trade would get another pick, as they likley have a few guys they've come to like at that range and at the same time provide defense on the wing. I think this would be about both taking Salmons contract and addressing a need at the sf spot, and getting an extra pick to address other needs. Remember Masai once said if you're going to have guy on the end of bench, have them be young guys you can develop and turn into assetts