Stein: Raptors in hunt for MEM's #22

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #121 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:30 pm

The INSANITY

poonsmjj · Post #122 » by **poonsmjj** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:31 pm

MASAAAIIIIIII!!! Please don't ever, ever, ever, leave this organization you sweet, godly, unholy thief you.

youngtea · Post #123 » by **youngtea** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:31 pm

Chriscross wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:
Chriscross wrote:

??

We can waive Salmons for the cost of a million and Prince is making 8 million I believe. Prince is a terrible basketball player these days

Its a good deal but Prince is not better than Salmons in anyway

On the court he definitely is. I'm not talking about the cap hit, just basketball.

They are about the same

Prince TS% .438 WS 1.5 PER 8.2
Salmons TS% .462 WS 1.7 PER 7.8

Similar players in terms of production. Prince has a better career.

RaptorNews · Post #124 » by **RaptorNews** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:31 pm

Love u Masai

I feel stupid, but wouldn't this hurt is in re-signing Kyle?

youngtea · Post #125 » by **youngtea** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:31 pm

Beatbox wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Maybe, we trade up to #8?

Not based on the latest Spears tweet:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/status/482196120404504577[/tweet]

Also kings are looking for a star to trade their pick. Not get more picks.

hyper316 · Post #126 » by **hyper316** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:31 pm

Ennis (20), Capela (22), Bogdan/Inglis (37)

At least getting somethign for John Salmons, and 1 less defender in the opposing team that frequently shuts down DeRozan (Prince)

OhMyBosh · Post #127 » by **OhMyBosh** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:32 pm

Beatbox wrote:
Chriscross wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:37 is still in a good range to get a good player. I'd prefer the original deal with 59, but then again we get all the best pieces in the proposed deal either way.

Prince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Salmons
22>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 37 or 59

??

We can waive Salmons for the cost of a million and Prince is making 8 million I believe. Prince is a terrible basketball player these days

Its a good deal but Prince is not better than Salmons in anyway

Except for on the entire defensive side of the court. Prince can still defend at a high level.

I don't think this has been true since 2012.

He might have the occasional play where he's able to bother someone's shot, but he is a shell of his former self. He looked awful in Memphis. He's now a huge liability on offense and a mediocre defender.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #128 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:32 pm

Probably means one of Pat Patterson or Greivis Vasquez is gone.

COY0607 · Post #129 » by **COY0607** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:32 pm

Chriscross wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:37 is still in a good range to get a good player. I'd prefer the original deal with 59, but then again we get all the best pieces in the proposed deal either way.

Prince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Salmons
22>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 37 or 59

??

We can waive Salmons for the cost of a million and Prince is making 8 million I believe. Prince is a terrible basketball player these days

Its a good deal but Prince is not better than Salmons in anyway

prince would have been super useful against the Nets in the playoffs.. he can definitely be the 8th guy, maybe 2nd perimeter player off the bench.. he seems tailor made for Casey thou, i could see heavy over-usage

and he's an expiring so I can live with the money

HolyMage110 · Post #130 » by **HolyMage110** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:32 pm

i wanted the 37th pick.
no inglis :'(

Pusha-T · Post #131 » by **Pusha-T** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:32 pm

I think Masai is doing everything possible to get himself into the lottery ... i think if this goes through, its only part 1

wtfbosh · Post #132 » by **wtfbosh** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:32 pm

RaptorNews wrote:Love u Masai

I feel stupid, but wouldn't this hurt is in re-signing Kyle?

not really, hurts more in resigning PP/GV I think. I think the Raps would still have like $11-13 mil in cap space.

RaptorNews · Post #133 » by **RaptorNews** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:32 pm

Capella and Ennis

Ohhhhhh yeahhhhh

vini_vidi_vici · Post #134 » by **vini_vidi_vici** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:32 pm

Dagger, how much is KL/PP/GV extensions, plus 20 and 22 (they are fixed $$ as per positioning right?)?? Can we afford it??

Landomar · Post #135 » by **Landomar** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:33 pm

Prince actually does fill our need for a big wing too! Haha. He's generally a terrible big wing at this point, but would be useful in certain matchups where Ross/DeRozan are getting clobbered.

Roland Brice · Post #136 » by **Roland Brice** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:33 pm

Chriscross wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:
Chriscross wrote:

??

We can waive Salmons for the cost of a million and Prince is making 8 million I believe. Prince is a terrible basketball player these days

Its a good deal but Prince is not better than Salmons in anyway

On the court he definitely is. I'm not talking about the cap hit, just basketball.

They are about the same

Prince TS% .438 WS 1.5 PER 8.2
Salmons TS% .462 WS 1.7 PER 7.8

Hmm... maybe the stats say so but I'd much rather have Tayshaun Prince out there than John Salmons.

Inevitable · Post #137 » by **Inevitable** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:33 pm

Package Ross and a pick for a lotto pick.

m83588333 · Post #138 » by **m83588333** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:33 pm

youngtea wrote:
Raptorfan2012 wrote:
HolyMage110 wrote:does this mean one of vasquez or lowry is gone?

Not really - Lowry will be the starter but he really needs a back up PG. Lowry can't keep playing heavy minutes like the does (got hurt for the playoffs, but still played)> GV may go, but Casey likes using GV as the SG, so that may take care of itself.

Patterson might be gone. Don't see us paying him the money he deserves on the next contract.

We would pay market value foir PPat and Vasquez likely under 10M for both. There is a a 12-13M space between Cap and Tax.

Chriscross · Post #139 » by **Chriscross** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:33 pm

youngtea wrote:
Chriscross wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:
On the court he definitely is. I'm not talking about the cap hit, just basketball.

They are about the same

Prince TS% .438 WS 1.5 PER 8.2
Salmons TS% .462 WS 1.7 PER 7.8

Similar players in terms of production. Prince has a better career.

What does career production have to do with a couple of vets at the end of their career?

Point being, neither are good

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #140 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:33 pm

Wow so

Lowry / Ennis
Derozan / Vasquez
Ross / Prince
Amir / Patterson
Val / Capela

Please please please