Stein: Raptors in hunt for MEM's #22

HolyMage110 · Post #141 » by **HolyMage110** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:33 pm

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Update to potential Raps/Grizz trade: Deal would more likely send No. 37 with John Salmons to Memphis for Tayshaun Prince and No. 22 pick

ThatWay · Post #142 » by **ThatWay** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:33 pm

I would prefer the first deal Salmons and 59 for Prince and 22 but the updated one isnt too bad. Masai apparently was waiting for a hidden prospect to be there at 37 and with this deal it confirms that he isnt too sure the prospect will be there at 37. Prince is over the hill but he can still defend and will be a good backup o defend the big SFS in spurts. With two first rounders the targets must be Capela/Ennis

RaptorNews · Post #143 » by **RaptorNews** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:34 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Probably means one of Pat Patterson or Greivis Vasquez is gone.

Good

I like both but the last thing we need are more "solid" players

bboyskinnylegs · Post #144 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:34 pm

7.7 million expiring contract at a position of need - I'd definitely like this deal. If we walk away from this draft with three of Capela/Ennis/Anderson/Inglis/Bogdanovic/Stokes I'd be pretty happy.

Lazy · Post #145 » by **Lazy** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:34 pm

I won't believe it until I see Kevin Rashidi tweet about it

youngtea · Post #146 » by **youngtea** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:34 pm

Chriscross wrote:
youngtea wrote:
Chriscross wrote:
They are about the same

Prince TS% .438 WS 1.5 PER 8.2
Salmons TS% .462 WS 1.7 PER 7.8

Similar players in terms of production. Prince has a better career.

What does career production have to do with a couple of vets at the end of their career?

Point being, neither are good

I never said that makes one better than the other. Just stating that Prince has had a better career. I don't mind a trade as we aren't taking a long term contract anyways and opens up next season for a few big signings.

Post #147 » by **Patman** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:34 pm

This deal give MEM quite a bit of flexibility if Z-Bo exercises his ETO, which he's leaning towards. Could they be players for Kevin Love?

hyper316 · Post #148 » by **hyper316** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:35 pm

i wonder who will OKC pick at #21. Do we have to be considered that they may take one of the guys on our draft board, and if so who?

youngtea · Post #149 » by **youngtea** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:35 pm

RaptorNews wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Probably means one of Pat Patterson or Greivis Vasquez is gone.

Good

I like both but the last thing we need are more "solid" players

If I were to get Patterson would be gone. 2pat is unfortunately too short to effectively defend the PF position

TheDunc · Post #150 » by **TheDunc** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:36 pm

I wonder if 20+22+Ross gets us a top 8 pick?

Bankai · Post #151 » by **Bankai** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:36 pm

You know those calls you get about sending money to a Nigerian Prince? Masai is that guy.

Naysorn · Post #152 » by **Naysorn** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:36 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Probably means one of Pat Patterson or Greivis Vasquez is gone.

I believe Patterson is more important to this team. It's going to suck saying goodbye to Vasquez, though.

tdotboyy · Post #153 » by **tdotboyy** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:36 pm

dude is a draft pick acquiring genius

mintsa · Post #154 » by **mintsa** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:36 pm

Maybe ennis is dropping, so Masai wants the 22nd pick and then he has a plans/deal for the 20th pick???

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan · Post #155 » by **theonlyeastcoastrapsfan** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:37 pm

I guess I was greedy but liked it better with 59 going their way.....offer them a couple mil instead Masai!

Chriscross · Post #156 » by **Chriscross** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:37 pm

Roland Brice wrote:
Chriscross wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:
On the court he definitely is. I'm not talking about the cap hit, just basketball.

They are about the same

Prince TS% .438 WS 1.5 PER 8.2
Salmons TS% .462 WS 1.7 PER 7.8

Hmm... maybe the stats say so but I'd much rather have Tayshaun Prince out there than John Salmons.

Raptor fans think Prince is better than Salmons
Grizzlies fans think Salmons is better than Prince

Conclusion: Both benchwarmers who shouldn't see a minute of action on our team

m83588333 · Post #157 » by **m83588333** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:38 pm

This may reduce the value of OKC picks #21 and #29. If Toronto sandwiches them. They will end up with 2 players eating cap space.

God Squad · Post #158 » by **God Squad** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:38 pm

dagger wrote:
Rhythm043 wrote:Really targeting Ennis hard. I guess they want to make plans for life without Lowry?

I don't see that at all. Lowry's situation is independent of this. I think we'd be just as happy to draft Napier at #20, and one of them is very likely going to be available at #20.

I don't see the love for Napier aside from what he's done while spending four years at UConn. I'd prefer Ennis personally.

Naysorn · Post #159 » by **Naysorn** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:39 pm

So can we still re-sign one of Patterson/Vasquez?

Rhythm043 · Post #160 » by **Rhythm043** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:39 pm

mtcan wrote:
Rhythm043 wrote:Really targeting Ennis hard. I guess they want to make plans for life without Lowry?

Life without Nando really.

Kyle, GV and Ennis?

Or are you thinking GV is gone or playing way more SG? Hopefully we keep GV, I think they need him on the team.