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ForeverTFC wrote:protothe wrote:Oh god.....skimming the thread and people actually don't mind Prince?
Can't Fields do everything that Prince does (if not better) at this point?
I'd rather just cut Salmons at this point and not add any salary back.
All signs point to us going at the FA market next year.
Price is an expiring deal that allows us to get another first round rookie on a rookie deal.
Prince's playing ability is an afterthought at this point.
The Boy wrote:Oh, that went by fastSkywalkerAC wrote:The Boy wrote:How many years does he have left ? we still gotta dump Fields and Salmons, getting 22 is great but we got so many scrubs
Fields is expiring, we don't have to dump him at all.
Chriscross wrote:RaptorsFTL wrote:protothe wrote:Oh god.....skimming the thread and people actually don't mind Prince?
Can't Fields do everything that Prince does (if not better) at this point?
I'd rather just cut Salmons at this point and not add any salary back.
It's an expiring for an expiring, we're not exactly swinging for the fences in grabbing another player this offseason, ie that cap space by cutting Salmons isn't going to help us net Lebron, and we get a solid first round pick in the process. I don't get the complaints as though the saved money will make a huge difference to our offseason.
No one is complaining about the trade
We are curious why people think Prince is going to be in our starting lineup or from my standpoint contribute anything on our team
He is finished both offensively and defensively
mtcan wrote:protothe wrote:Oh god.....skimming the thread and people actually don't mind Prince?
Can't Fields do everything that Prince does (if not better) at this point?
I'd rather just cut Salmons at this point and not add any salary back.
Prince will play 10 mpg off the bench and is gone next summer. I don't care.
Rapsobsessed7 wrote:SportsFan9 wrote:Can someone who's knowledgeable about the situation help me out here. What are the chances we keep 2pat AND GV if this goes through? I don't think this would have a big impact on keeping Lowry but what about the other 2 guys?
chances dont change. This does nothing to impact our cap situation really.
we are at roughly 41 million before re-signing Lowry,Vasquez,Patt + our 1st. After this deal that would put us at 48.7 million + 2 1st round picks.
#20 - $1,215,300 (rookie scale)
#22 - $1,120,100 (rookie scale)
So roughly were at around 50.1 million before re-signing anyone. If Lowry gets around 11 million lets say, Vasquez 4 and Patterson 4.5. You add 19 million to 50.1. So youd be at 69.1 million. The projected tax is going to be around 77 million so you will have a lot of room to wiggle under the luxury tax. Thats why i love this deal because we stay under tax, address all of our needs and dont impact future cap considerations (we would have max cap space next summer in all likelihood)
chuckdevlin wrote:Hayes, Fields , Prince, Amir all expiring next year.
protothe wrote:Chriscross wrote:RaptorsFTL wrote:It's an expiring for an expiring, we're not exactly swinging for the fences in grabbing another player this offseason, ie that cap space by cutting Salmons isn't going to help us net Lebron, and we get a solid first round pick in the process. I don't get the complaints as though the saved money will make a huge difference to our offseason.
No one is complaining about the trade
We are curious why people think Prince is going to be in our starting lineup or from my standpoint contribute anything on our team
He is finished both offensively and defensively
The issue is that his contract is guaranteed.
I'd much rather go after Ariza.
Saving for next year doesn't do anything. No big free agent is coming here. We either tank and do it through the draft (not with picks in the 20s) or we build a team without any top players, but where every player is above average (ala Detroit)
protothe wrote:Chriscross wrote:RaptorsFTL wrote:It's an expiring for an expiring, we're not exactly swinging for the fences in grabbing another player this offseason, ie that cap space by cutting Salmons isn't going to help us net Lebron, and we get a solid first round pick in the process. I don't get the complaints as though the saved money will make a huge difference to our offseason.
No one is complaining about the trade
We are curious why people think Prince is going to be in our starting lineup or from my standpoint contribute anything on our team
He is finished both offensively and defensively
The issue is that his contract is guaranteed.
I'd much rather go after Ariza.
Saving for next year doesn't do anything. No big free agent is coming here. We either tank and do it through the draft (not with picks in the 20s) or we build a team without any top players, but where every player is above average (ala Detroit)
protothe wrote:Chriscross wrote:RaptorsFTL wrote:It's an expiring for an expiring, we're not exactly swinging for the fences in grabbing another player this offseason, ie that cap space by cutting Salmons isn't going to help us net Lebron, and we get a solid first round pick in the process. I don't get the complaints as though the saved money will make a huge difference to our offseason.
No one is complaining about the trade
We are curious why people think Prince is going to be in our starting lineup or from my standpoint contribute anything on our team
He is finished both offensively and defensively
The issue is that his contract is guaranteed.
I'd much rather go after Ariza.
Saving for next year doesn't do anything. No big free agent is coming here. We either tank and do it through the draft (not with picks in the 20s) or we build a team without any top players, but where every player is above average (ala Detroit)
SkywalkerAC wrote:RaptorsFTL wrote:SkywalkerAC wrote:The 37th is a good pick. Wish we could hang onto it somehow.
Think of it this way though, 22 is better, and it's not as though Salmons was lighting up the world. Pure salary dump by Memphis, and we're getting the much better pick.
Salmons=/Prince
22>>>37
Except,
Salmons (salary dump)>Prince
I think it's still a decent trade but we definitely aren't exactly ripping Memphis off.
IMAN5 wrote:PRINCES DEAL EXPIRES JUST LIKE SALMONS
22nd pick is BETTER than 37th pick
Why is everyone complaining about Prince coming here? It's such a simple trade to understand. Memphis wants Salmons to waive and save money, we upgrade a pick from 37th to 22nd. Prince's deal expires the same time as Salmons, so there are no long term problems.
Anyone looking at what Prince can offer is finding the positive in a guy who is a 1 year rental.
YoungD23 wrote:chuckdevlin wrote:Hayes, Fields , Prince, Amir all expiring next year.
Yeah, was just about to say. That is like 20+ millions coming off books..?
...
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Durant?
RaptorsFTL wrote:protothe wrote:Chriscross wrote:
No one is complaining about the trade
We are curious why people think Prince is going to be in our starting lineup or from my standpoint contribute anything on our team
He is finished both offensively and defensively
The issue is that his contract is guaranteed.
I'd much rather go after Ariza.
Saving for next year doesn't do anything. No big free agent is coming here. We either tank and do it through the draft (not with picks in the 20s) or we build a team without any top players, but where every player is above average (ala Detroit)
And you think Ariza is worth going after for the amount of money we throw at him instead of a low salary guy at 22?
IMAN5 wrote:CrymeTime wrote:I could Massai then Moving #20 to:
Utah for #23 and #35
or
Charlotte for #24 and #45
I hope we pull off something like the Mavs, being able to trade down twice, and still got the player they wanted.
In 2009 the Mavs traded:
#22 for #24 and 2 second rounders
then
#24 for #25 and a second rounder.
so basically they got 3 second rounders by moving down 4 spots.
Who did they draft with 25 + the second rounders and who were the guys drafted at 22 and 24?
