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Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12

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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1301 » by thelead » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:32 pm

Driguez wrote:I need to do stuff man, starting to get desperate :lol: BRB going to cut mine and my neighbors yards.

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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1302 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:34 pm

I really would like Dwight Powell with Denver's 2nd pick (strong, atletic PF) reminds me a lot of Mason Plumlee

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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1303 » by Driguez » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:34 pm

thelead wrote:
Driguez wrote:I need to do stuff man, starting to get desperate :lol: BRB going to cut mine and my neighbors yards.

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Can u stop by my house too? I hate mowing the lawn.


Trust me I hate it too, but I'm sitting on my ass refreshing Twitter and RGM endlessly. Need to burn a couple of hours.

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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1304 » by Smooth_E » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:35 pm

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Smooth_E wrote:- My guess is that our next/final offer to Cleveland is #4, #12, and Harris. Harris is expendable if we have a chance at Parker to play starting SF for us.

Say we do replace Harris with Parker, was it worth #4 and #12 to do that? Is the difference between Harris and Parker the #4 and #12 picks? I don't know, I think I'd rather have Harris, Vonleh and Payton than just Parker.


I can't give you an answer for that. I see where you're coming from though. I can't give an answer because I don't have enough information to give an answer I'm comfortable with.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1305 » by InFlames » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:35 pm

Well I'm about to play some Day Z/Payday 2 for 5 hours while I wait for the draft.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1306 » by pelican piranha » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:36 pm

OrlandoNed wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:- My guess is that our next/final offer to Cleveland is #4, #12, and Harris. Harris is expendable if we have a chance at Parker to play starting SF for us.

Say we do replace Harris with Parker, was it worth #4 and #12 to do that? Is the difference between Harris and Parker the #4 and #12 picks? I don't know, I think I'd rather have Harris, Vonleh and Payton than just Parker.



No way. I would much rather have Parker who could be our go to guy and a scoring machine than three solid/role players. Vonleh will be a bust. Payton would be nice, but we can get a point guard in free agency or via trade. There is such an overwhelming amount of good point guards in the league right now, we could figure something out. If we can get Parker, I'm all for it. He would complement Dipo well. Dipo with the slashing/athleticism and Parker killing people with his offensive repertoire. Doubt we get the number 1 pick, but would love it.

I'm hoping if we stay at 4, we grab Embiid. His injury could be a blessing in disguise for us. I know we have Vuc who is def a solid player, but if you have a chance at Embiid, you have to take him. Dude could be an all time great big if healthy.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1307 » by tony20rocks » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:37 pm

if we have to trade oladipo and something else for 1 i would be ok we need a superstar like wiggins
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1308 » by tony20rocks » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:38 pm

NickAnderson wrote:The little birdie just texted me and said we are trading Oladipo for the number 1 pick!!

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who exactly said that?
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1309 » by AddiFB » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:39 pm

tony20rocks wrote:if we have to trade oladipo and something else for 1 i would be ok we need a superstar like wiggins


This is going to end well.

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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1310 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:41 pm

Aww man, I missed all the over reactionary posts? :(
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1311 » by crazytown » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:42 pm

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NickAnderson wrote:The little birdie just texted me and said we are trading Oladipo for the number 1 pick!!

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Maybe Dipo by himself. If the little birdie said Dipo+4, then you better break its neck.

:lol: cmon man. Dipo would be back end of lottery if he was in it. Dont overvalue our players. We just did that with AA...
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1312 » by MrShow » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:44 pm

NickAnderson wrote:The little birdie just texted me and said we are trading Oladipo for the number 1 pick!!

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Hope your little birdie is stepped on.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1313 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:44 pm

I do not want to trade Oladipo for the 1st pick of the draft. So I don't want to hear any rumors about it.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1314 » by NickAnderson » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:45 pm

I was referring to the guy whos "knows" someone in the Magic higher ups. lol
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1315 » by pelican piranha » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:46 pm

I really do not want to give up Dipo and the 4 for the number 1. I am really high on Dipo and don't think it's worth it at all. Dipo and 12? I might be willing to do that, but doubt the Cavs would.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1316 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:46 pm

THarris12 wrote:DraftExpress mock draft is updated, and they still have us with Dante Exum at four. However, they pushed Nurkic up to 11 to Denver, and we get Stauskas at 12.

I would have loved that draft before trading for Fournier, now I'm not so sure.


If we draft a pg at 4 we are drafting payne at 12, thats my prediction
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1317 » by Nyce_1 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:47 pm

Just found out I'm having my first boy! Couldn't even be as excited as I should be because all I'm thinking about is the draft and Fournier, lol.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1318 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:48 pm

I don't know all of the players we have worked out, but there are 3 in particular I remember us working out that might be there late in the second round

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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1319 » by dsg2021 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:49 pm

Evan Fournier is classic Tobias trade, part 2 (so far). Has a lot of big minutes potential for those of us NBA/Fantasy followers. I love his 2P% and how well he handles the ball. Very versatile skill set, on a cheap contract for 2 more seasons. I also like that Hennigan and Office are not afraid to deal.

One possible framework is Denver's Iguodala TPE space fitting in Arron Afflalo, adding in Fournier and #56.

There might be something to be said of the power of getting drafted 56 over 61 (UFA mentality). Not to mention theres been some special steals in that range in years past. All the 2nd round/UFA workouts Orlando has been pulling make a lot more immediate sense now. The cap space was pretty substantial pre-Afflalo trade, but with realistic cap holds and all current contracts/picks accounted, if we wanted extreme cap space at this moment, we could waive Jameer's partial (try to reacquire him cheaper if allowed), and I came to about a 24 million cap space amount. We shifted away from worrying about how much cap we'd lose on Afflalo's next UFA contract next summer (or losing Afflalo outright for nothing due to UFA), to worrying about Fournier's next RFA contract in 2 summers from now (Atleast we can keep him if we really want bc of RFA).



My 2 cents. More classic proof Magic Office likes data, like Orange Ave. mentioned, and many others since we noticed Vucevic, Tobias, Fournier all had NBA data to work with. Draft picks Oladipo, O'Quinn, and Nicholson had a lot of college data than usual too. The office team won't live by that rule I bet, but it seems a big plus to them. Our Hennigan and office are a little bit unpredictable to me too haha. I am now sure that they wouldn't mind talking about Oladipo, Vucevic and Harris just to talk atleast. But I also wouldn't be surprised one bit coming out in a few hours with #4, #12, #56, Fournier and a little more cap space and rookie-scaled RFA contracts.
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Re: Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12 

Post#1320 » by dsg2021 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:49 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:Just found out I'm having my first boy! Couldn't even be as excited as I should be because all I'm thinking about is the draft and Fournier, lol.

Congratulations Nyce_1!!!!!!!

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