Stein: Raptors in hunt for MEM's #22

God Squad · Post #621 » by **God Squad** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:07 pm

C_Money wrote:What if we re-signed Lowry and Vasquez and drafted a wing player at #20? We'd instantly be a better team. Drafting Ennis means one of Lowry and Vasquez is leaving and drafting Capela means we still need a backup Center for next year. The team doesn't get any better.

Too much "what if's". Lowry is the biggest piece to the puzzle.

C_Money · Post #622 » by **C_Money** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:09 pm

God Squad wrote:
C_Money wrote:What if we re-signed Lowry and Vasquez and drafted a wing player at #20? We'd instantly be a better team. Drafting Ennis means one of Lowry and Vasquez is leaving and drafting Capela means we still need a backup Center for next year. The team doesn't get any better.

Too much "what if's". Lowry is the biggest piece to the puzzle.

Do you see how replacing Lowry/Vasquez with Ennis makes us a worse team though? Masai better have some plans for free agency. That's all I'm saying.

chuckdevlin · Post #623 » by **chuckdevlin** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:16 pm

Looking forward to JV-Ennis PNR

mad-man · Post #624 » by **mad-man** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:17 pm

Has this trade been confirmed yet?

Brettfinch · Post #625 » by **Brettfinch** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:18 pm

TheProfessor wrote:People really dont understand how bad prince is do they? Prince/DD would be the worst shooting tandem in the nba and this basically means bye bye vasquez or 2PAT. I like the trade since it does screw with 2016.

K I'm sorry if this comes off rude but who are you? This trade literally has f all to do with Prince he is a cap hit in a year where we are looking to do nothing much fa wise. He is going to be better than salmons and we move up 15 spots, and if you've read any of this topic a few people have broken down that we can resign everyone and still be under the tax. Giving lowry an 11-12 mill a year deal.

And I have not seen many people say Prince will be a starter and I doubt he will be, just look at the bigger picture.

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Mehar · Post #626 » by **Mehar** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:18 pm

RaptorsFTL wrote:If it happens, good deal. Last year of contract and we get a first rounder.

Exactly how i feel. If this happens this is a win-win. You get the 22nd pick, get rid of Salmons and get a guy in Prince who will fill a good role for this team in his last year of his deal. Brilliant move by Masai if this guys through. Do not know why some are complaining about this move. This is a one year commitment for Prince before he is off the books next year where the Raptors will have a ton of cap space.

Brettfinch · Post #627 » by **Brettfinch** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:20 pm

I kinda understand why we wait till okc drafts but isn't this still a win win even if we do it now, or is that 6 mill money saved a big deal

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Son Goku 25 · Post #628 » by **Son Goku 25** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:21 pm

dagger wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer/status/482194528342790144[/tweet]

With Capela at #20, Ennis or Napier at #22 is a sure bet. OKC holds #21 and has no need whatsoever for another PG

By the way, those of you worried about Capela should consider that Kevin Aronovitz of ESPN did an Insider column today in which he used a statistically based analysis of CC to anoint him the potential steal of the draft.

Now that's what I like to hear!

wtcantfw · Post #629 » by **wtcantfw** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:21 pm

chuckdevlin wrote:Looking forward to JV-Ennis PNR

Ennis is a special passer out of the PNR.

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #630 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:22 pm

Dream draft

- Ennis
- Capela

In some order of #20/#22

- Bachynski @ #59. Huge haul.

Sherlock · Post #631 » by **Sherlock** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:22 pm

Obviously I'm late to the party, and just saw this, but man...this makes sense on so many levels for the Raps.

Tay Prince meets a near-term need, should be able to tutor Ross on how to maximize his potential as a D-minded wing, has a contract that expires at the end of the 15 season, and is generally regarded as a good team guy.

Taking Salmons off the roster ensures that Casey won't be tempted to put him on the floor.

The pick swap is obviously a big win for the Raps.

I love the idea of being able to use the Raps' superior financial situation to swindle cheap teams/owners. :clap:

Yorkex · Post #632 » by **Yorkex** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:23 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/NStauskas11/status/482248073398476800[/tweet]

Stauskas to Raps :lol:

chuckdevlin · Post #633 » by **chuckdevlin** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:23 pm

mad-man wrote:Has this trade been confirmed yet?

Looks like a draft-time decision. Pending on Ennis /Capela still being there at 22

S.W.A.N · Post #634 » by **S.W.A.N** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:24 pm

C_Money wrote:
God Squad wrote:
C_Money wrote:What if we re-signed Lowry and Vasquez and drafted a wing player at #20? We'd instantly be a better team. Drafting Ennis means one of Lowry and Vasquez is leaving and drafting Capela means we still need a backup Center for next year. The team doesn't get any better.

Too much "what if's". Lowry is the biggest piece to the puzzle.

Do you see how replacing Lowry/Vasquez with Ennis makes us a worse team though? Masai better have some plans for free agency. That's all I'm saying.

Why on earth do you think that drafting Ennis would have an effect on signing Lowry or Vasquez ? If anything it would mean not signing De Colo.

I starting to sound like a broken record but I will say it one more time...

The 20th pick is not likely to start season as a rotation player, and likely to not have any effect on who we sign.

This team is not in tank mode. Casey is not going to give a rookie minutes unless he earns them and even then he is going to limit their minutes because he doesn't trust rookies.

Masai is going to sign and or trade for guys to fill out the top 8-9 rotation spots. Masai is trying to bring back all of our main free agents. This will happen regardless of the draft !

20th pick people, lower your freaking expectations already

Rapsobsessed7 · Post #635 » by **Rapsobsessed7** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:24 pm

With our luck

Capela goes #18 to PHX
Ennis goes #19 to CHI

Raptorfan2012 · Post #636 » by **Raptorfan2012** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:24 pm

For the cap gurus here. If we do this trade and keep Hansborough, and then resign Lowry, Pat, and GV, will we still have our MLE to play with?

SwiftyV · Post #637 » by **SwiftyV** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:27 pm

Yorkex wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/NStauskas11/status/482248073398476800[/tweet]

Stauskas to Raps

I'd fap so much if this happened. One of my fave players in the draft.

SkywalkerAC · Post #638 » by **SkywalkerAC** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:28 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:For the cap gurus here. If we do this trade and keep Hansborough, and then resign Lowry, Pat, and GV, will we still have our MLE to play with?

Why wouldn't we? Don't only tax-repeaters lose their MLE or something? Or are you asking whether the MLE would take us over the tax?

S.W.A.N · Post #639 » by **S.W.A.N** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:29 pm

Raptorfan2012 wrote:For the cap gurus here. If we do this trade and keep Hansborough, and then resign Lowry, Pat, and GV, will we still have our MLE to play with?

Unless I am mistaken (feel free to correct) yes we have MLE... But how much the MLE is depends on where we are in relationship to cap and luxury tax.

Post #640 » by **Patman** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:30 pm

Rapsobsessed7 wrote:Dream draft

- Ennis
- Capela

In some order of #20/#22

- Bachynski @ #59. Huge haul.

If Bachynski is there at 59, why not just let him slide and then invite him to Summer League? We'd be better off taking a Euro stasher.