Official Draft Thread 3: Picks #4 and #12

[magic22s]

ROY fav is exum imo, he's going to be getting the best statlines

On the other hand he plays for utah

Wiggins and Jabari have the hype

Smart and Randle play for boston and LA

Its gotta be one of those 5

Exum/Smart need to take over Burke/Rondo's jobs to make it.

In addition, Exum is still too raw in his rookie year.

[bigdogdylan5]

I dont know if you watched to the very end but all the analysts agreed Orlando had a very quiet but strong draft. I dont know what your problem is unless your problem was it being "quiet"

[rcklsscognition]

Seriously??? This is absolutely stupid how many risks did the Spurs take?? You win by getting players that can play and play together well. Henny has taken risks. He traded Dwight for a bunch of picks that everyone thought would be late rounders one turned out to be a lottery in the most stocked draft ever. Are u saying trading JJ for Tobias wasnt a risk? How about taking Vuc and Harkless over Bynum who was coming off a very good year. You are only saying he doesnt take risks because he didnt take some overhyped over publicized Australian player. Hell last year he made the only pick in the top 8 that is actually looking like an allstar player give me a **** break this board is raving mad.

Relax man, it has been a long day.

I am not necessarily saying I don't like the picks. I do not think Henny took single risk so far. He made moves that were not perceived well initially, but that has nothing to do with taking risks. I am pretty sure he knew exactly what he was getting.

My opinion is based on his 3 year draft history, not just this years. There is a trend here. Dipo was as sure of a thing as possible last year and we knew exactly what we are getting. Same is true for Nicholson and Gordon, too.

But what exactly is the problem with taking a sure thing? Cleveland took a risk drafting Bennett over Oladipo. And not 24 hours ago they were begging us to trade him to them. You should take risks with later picks in the late loto or late teens early 20s not at the very top especially this year. You need to make sure u get a productive player and he did

I find that is actually what people do with picks later in the draft, find productivity. You find a lot of times its the high lotto picks that are taken based on potential. I always viewed the lottery as the place to take a risk and I think most of NBA draft history sort of shows that.

[bigdogdylan5]

My predition for 2014-15 all-rookie first team:

Parker / Wiggins / Gordon / Randle / Payton

I think you are right about Gordon not sure about Payton i think Smart will get a lot of attention in Boston and i expect him to play very well and i think he will take that PG spot

It's more likely we trade Nelson than Celtics trade Rondo. That's why I give Payton the edge.

Thats a good point but i have a hard time seeing them not trading Rondo. You dont draft a PG this NBA ready like Smart and not throw him right into the deep end.

[OrlandO]

Adam, can you repost the phone interviews? I saw them on my phone, but they are buried pretty deep once I came home. Also, don't see them on your website.

They're on MagicBasketballOnline.com

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiDxRzbnUUM[/youtube]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkFmcmDVPPU[/youtube]

Love their attitudes... I wanted exum, but I'm buying into the henny plan. He knows something the world doesn't.

[bigdogdylan5]

Relax man, it has been a long day.

I am not necessarily saying I don't like the picks. I do not think Henny took single risk so far. He made moves that were not perceived well initially, but that has nothing to do with taking risks. I am pretty sure he knew exactly what he was getting.

My opinion is based on his 3 year draft history, not just this years. There is a trend here. Dipo was as sure of a thing as possible last year and we knew exactly what we are getting. Same is true for Nicholson and Gordon, too.

But what exactly is the problem with taking a sure thing? Cleveland took a risk drafting Bennett over Oladipo. And not 24 hours ago they were begging us to trade him to them. You should take risks with later picks in the late loto or late teens early 20s not at the very top especially this year. You need to make sure u get a productive player and he did

I find that is actually what people do with picks later in the draft, find productivity. You find a lot of times its the high lotto picks that are taken based on potential. I always viewed the lottery as the place to take a risk and I think most of NBA draft history sort of shows that.

I am sorry i just dont agree the top should not be taking risks you need to get the best player you can. Its hard to remember a player being labeled safe being taken that has bust out of the league more than these players that are oozing with potential.

[magic22s]

Thats a good point but i have a hard time seeing them not trading Rondo. You dont draft a PG this NBA ready like Smart and not throw him right into the deep end.

I guess Boston will offer Smart in potential trade with Love. Otherwise, they will trade Rondo to rebuild.

[bigdogdylan5]

I find that is actually what people do with picks later in the draft, find productivity. You find a lot of times its the high lotto picks that are taken based on potential. I always viewed the lottery as the place to take a risk and I think most of NBA draft history sort of shows that.

Show it to me give me evidence to back up your claims dont just say NBA history agrees with me therefore i am right

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

ROY fav is exum imo, he's going to be getting the best statlines

On the other hand he plays for utah

Wiggins and Jabari have the hype

Smart and Randle play for boston and LA

Its gotta be one of those 5

Exum/Smart need to take over Burke/Rondo's jobs to make it.

In addition, Exum is still too raw in his rookie year.

That wont be hard, Rondo will be traded, Exum will be starting day 1

[Malik Starks]

My predition for 2014-15 all-rookie first team:

Parker / Wiggins / Gordon / Randle / Payton

I think you are right about Gordon not sure about Payton i think Smart will get a lot of attention in Boston and i expect him to play very well and i think he will take that PG spot

It's more likely we trade Nelson than Celtics trade Rondo. That's why I give Payton the edge.

Disagree here, Rondo and Smart aren't playing in the back court together, since both need the ball and neither has a jumper.

Jameer on the other hand could serve as mentor for Payton (and the team with AA gone) in the short term and depth off the bench in the long term. I'm not saying we are keeping him, but there is at least a rationale.

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

Who leads the team in scoring this year? Tobias?

[Nyce_1]

Who leads the team in scoring this year? Tobias?

Tobias & Vic.

[MagicTownBaller]

When is the spec thread getting unlocked?

[Malik Starks]

Who leads the team in scoring this year? Tobias?

To me, Oladipo, he can get his points in a greater variety of ways, plus he no longer will have PG responsibilities. But they could both average over 20.

[rcklsscognition]

I find that is actually what people do with picks later in the draft, find productivity. You find a lot of times its the high lotto picks that are taken based on potential. I always viewed the lottery as the place to take a risk and I think most of NBA draft history sort of shows that.

Show it to me give me evidence to back up your claims dont just say NBA history agrees with me therefore i am right

You can't prove an opinion man. lol

[bigdogdylan5]

I find that is actually what people do with picks later in the draft, find productivity. You find a lot of times its the high lotto picks that are taken based on potential. I always viewed the lottery as the place to take a risk and I think most of NBA draft history sort of shows that.

Show it to me give me evidence to back up your claims dont just say NBA history agrees with me therefore i am right

You can't prove an opinion man. lol

w/e not worth it to get into that i just think we need to be as safe as possible i do understand that risks are needed when running an NBA franchise but not we could afford to miss at all in this draft.

[zuppafly]

I feel we drafted by need and not by BPA. And that's something i don't like at all.
I'll become a homer about Gordon and hype him all over these boards, but I get the feeling that we missed on a couple of all-stars with this 4th pick.


Payton, on the other hand, I adore the pick. I'm not sure about the trade, though, as that 2017 first round we gave for him seems too much.

But hey, summer league is going to be awesome!

[rcklsscognition]

I agree we can't afford to miss, but how do we know that Gordon was the safe pick until we see what Exum or Vonleh/Randle turns out like? We won't for years. I personally don't understand how Gordon is not a huge risk. He shot under 50% from the line and is a bit of a tweener right now. Henny took a big risk to hopefully get a guy that will turn into some Blake Griffin/Shawn Marion hybrid.

[MagicTownBaller]

After watching a ton of videos (Highlighting the strengths and weaknesses) of Aaron Gordon and Elfrid Payton Jr, I can legitimately say I am impressed. Gordon is a fantastic specimen, he can dunk, play defense, plays hard, can block shots, and has that high motor that we love. He's not a great scorer but the kid is ONLY EIGHTEEN! He's three years younger then me. On the downside, he is completely raw on offense other then dunking, so pretty Dwight Howard when he was here lol.

Elfrid on the other hand impresses me more. I see a better version of Rajon Rondo with him (I know I may be overrating). This kid is going to be fantastic for us.

We have our core set, Elfrid Payton Jr, Victor Oladipo, Tobias Harris, Aaron Gordon, and Nikola Vucevic.

[mattyBoi]

I love the picks. I would've also loved to have gotten Exum and still think he will be a great player but we got two beasts who are going to compete from day one. Gordon was the best big out there for sure.

Also to those disappointed in not getting the 1st pick, if you look at like:

Gordon/Payton/Fournier vs Parker

It's not a bad outcome. We'll definitely be better next year than we would've been with just Parker alone.