2014 Official FA Thread 2

[gaspar]

Frontload Parsons contract for this upcoming season, to f*** over the Rockets, that way they definitely can't sign Melo or Lebron (if they decide to match), plus the following season it will be significantly lower. Hopefully we'll still be able to keep Dragic and Markieff Morris after this season too.

Do you even CBA, bro?

[Sunsdeuce]

Frontload Parsons contract for this upcoming season, to f*** over the Rockets, that way they definitely can't sign Melo or Lebron (if they decide to match), plus the following season it will be significantly lower. Hopefully we'll still be able to keep Dragic and Markieff Morris after this season too.

Do you even CBA, bro?

I CBA, you CBA, we all CBA.


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[Frank Lee]

Let Bledsoe walk if it's a max deal. Try extract some asset if possible and I hope it isn't Bosh. As he doesn't have the feisty edge and flat out disappears on the court. No thanks for another softee. I do see the fLakes making a play for Bled or Lowery. They have to. Remember whatever we pay EB, we pay Dragic more. I do like the Monroe Doctrine, but would Bled? This is going to be A quick negotiation... Offer... Three days...decision. Make haste

Sign Hawes (good find) ...Frye can go serve up his marshmallows some where else. Just not interested any more, stats be damned.

Keep Tucker and his lunchpail period. Great mentor for Warren and Goodwin
Warren is a baller. I see him getting 20 bench minutes before the yr is done. Some of my wolf pack buddies been raving about his junkyard game... He will surprise a few. And he's a closer.

I'm happy with this

Dragic
Green
Tucker
KeifMo
Len

FA (Blake May be) / Ennis
Goodwin
Warren
Hawes
Plum

Play ball

Didn't spend a lot but have a better roster than last yr. get good , consistent minutes for our youngsters and sit back till some other squad wants to deal. Loads of cap room.

W ZBO gone, I'm no longer interested in any bignammer. good points made not to take Deng or Gasol. Sooner or later we have to see what we have in Goodwin and Len.. Warren and Ennis too. those are two smart players drafted btw

Keep the expectations realistic.

[drewsprocket]

GROSS that starting unit Frank isn't going anywhere. A Dragic and Green backcourt couldn't do **** last year in terms of wins. Kieff will get trounced on by at least 6 better starting front courts lineups.

Also, Tucker is threatened by Warren. Those two are going to be going at it in practice for the starting job once Warren demonstrates he can nail tough shots alongside EB and Dragic.

And why do we need to continue with having 4 mid level talented players in Kieff, Plumlee, Haws, and Len (well soon for him)?

Letting EB walk is pretty dumb as pickens are slim in general. I mean, if he's healthy I think as it stands we'll be an 8th seed next year. If we can upgrade at our PF starting slot we'd be pretty well off.

[SunsFanSSOL]

Let Bledsoe walk if it's a max deal. Try extract some asset if possible and I hope it isn't Bosh. As he doesn't have the feisty edge and flat out disappears on the court. No thanks for another softee. I do see the fLakes making a play for Bled or Lowery. They have to. Remember whatever we pay EB, we pay Dragic more. I do like the Monroe Doctrine, but would Bled? This is going to be A quick negotiation... Offer... Three days...decision. Make haste

Sign Hawes (good find) ...Frye can go serve up his marshmallows some where else. Just not interested any more, stats be damned.

Keep Tucker and his lunchpail period. Great mentor for Warren and Goodwin
Warren is a baller. I see him getting 20 bench minutes before the yr is done. Some of my wolf pack buddies been raving about his junkyard game... He will surprise a few. And he's a closer.

I'm happy with this

Dragic
Green
Tucker
KeifMo
Len

FA (Blake May be) / Ennis
Goodwin
Warren
Hawes
Plum

Play ball

Didn't spend a lot but have a better roster than last yr. get good , consistent minutes for our youngsters and sit back till some other squad wants to deal. Loads of cap room.

W ZBO gone, I'm no longer interested in any bignammer. good points made not to take Deng or Gasol. Sooner or later we have to see what we have in Goodwin and Len.. Warren and Ennis too. those are two smart players drafted btw

Keep the expectations realistic.

That team is considerably worse than last year IMO.

[SunsFanSSOL]

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[LukasBMW]

I think we can kiss the dream of Carmelo or Lebron goodbye. These guys will only jump to the loaded western conference if it is on a team already on the brink of winning it all like the Rockets, Warriors, or Clippers.

I wouldn't at all be surprised to see Carmelo wind up in Houston and Lebron wind up in Chicago.

But neither will want to join the Suns as they will be joining a team that missed the playoffs in a tougher conference.

That narrows our focus to Kevin Love as the only possible massive addition, but that's a longshot now too.

I'd like to see the Suns consider Hayward and Monroe, but since both are restricted, we'd have to overpay them to get them here. I only want them if we can pick them up for a reasonable price and I just don't see that happening. If we can sign them for a reasonable fee, their current teams will match.

Rather then overpay, our best bet is to try to sign some steals. I'd rather take a low risk/high reward chance on some players then panicking and signing a guy like Monroe to a huge deal only to see him never become an all star. Then he becomes a toxic asset on our books and we can't trade him.

It might be best to keep developing our young talent, and sign some free agent bargains in order to preserve flexibility going forward. Eventually a disgruntled superstar WILL need to be traded and it would be wise to have a collection of draft picks + some young talent with reasonable contacts to move.

We could also pull the Brooklyn Nets move and sign some scrubs to HUGE 1 or 2 year deals in order to make them attractive expiring contracts to teams looking to ditch salary.

[drewsprocket]

So long as we don't have major injury to our best players, we're in the playoffs and no one will want to play us. I think turning in a good year will be cause for drawing better FAs to the Suns.

Our team clearly struggles to sign star players. It needs to be a destination place again. You're not signing with Phx to headline endorsements with Dale Earnhardt or Furniture Mattress or whatever is up in Az these days. You're signing with PHX cuz you're getting a max contract and YOU are the missing piece to their being a winner.

I sort of hope that the Lebron opt out blows up in the face of Bosh and that he wants to come play for the Suns. I don't see him as a soft player. He may be just too past his prime to win us a title but he's close to what we need to contend. Bosh played a role that Miami actually needed which was that of a stretch four and sacrificed the rest of his game for the team. I'd rather see him playing closer to the basket, picking and rolling, and using his length on defense in the paint.

[jcsunsfan]

The best fa that is attainable for us is probably Gasol. He can shoot, pass, and still rebounds at a pretty good clip. I might let Frye go to sign him. I think he has 3 good years left. Otherwise we could try to capitalize on a team going for it all. For instance, we could help Houston sign both Melo and LeBron by taking Harden and Lin off their hands, say for Plumlee and Green and picks.

[Hook_Em]

If Pau comes here Plumlee is gone. Maybe in a trade with other assets for Horford?

Bledsoe-Dragic backcourt + Horford-Pau frontcourt.

[letsgosuns]

I would match a max contract for Bledsoe. The reason why is because without him, this team is just not that great. Dragic and Bledsoe together are the engine that drives this team. Unless the Suns are replacing Bledsoe with Harden or something, they have to keep him. After Lebron, Carmelo, and Bosh, Bledsoe is probably the next best free agent available. He is a future all-star if he is healthy. He averaged nearly 18 ppg, 6 ast, 5 rbs, and 2 stls on 48% fg in his first season as a starter. Those are fantastic numbers. Plus he is a great defender and is only 24 years old. If the Suns do not keep him, they are probably going to take a big step back.

[jcsunsfan]

I would match a max contract for Bledsoe. The reason why is because without him, this team is just not that great. Dragic and Bledsoe together are the engine that drives this team. Unless the Suns are replacing Bledsoe with Harden or something, they have to keep him. After Lebron, Carmelo, and Bosh, Bledsoe is probably the next best free agent available. He is a future all-star if he is healthy. He averaged nearly 18 ppg, 6 ast, 5 rbs, and 2 stls on 48% fg in his first season as a starter. Those are fantastic numbers. Plus he is a great defender and is only 24 years old. If the Suns do not keep him, they are probably going to take a big step back.

They have to keep him.

[Qwigglez]

I'd rather keep Bledsoe than trade him for Harden. Harden doesn't play defense at all. However, if Bledsoe wants to go the route of constructing a super team elsewhere, than I'll make a trade because I don't want those type of players on the Suns.
If the Suns picked up Pau, I don't think trading Plumlee is necessary. Unless we are unable to acquire a SF via free agency (preferably Parsons/Hayward) than I say trade the Plumdawg for a relatively cheap SF with high upside. Jeff Green would be an easy target, though he is vastly overpaid IMO.

[Revived]

Let Bledsoe walk if it's a max deal. Try extract some asset if possible and I hope it isn't Bosh. As he doesn't have the feisty edge and flat out disappears on the court. No thanks for another softee. I do see the fLakes making a play for Bled or Lowery. They have to. Remember whatever we pay EB, we pay Dragic more. I do like the Monroe Doctrine, but would Bled? This is going to be A quick negotiation... Offer... Three days...decision. Make haste

Sign Hawes (good find) ...Frye can go serve up his marshmallows some where else. Just not interested any more, stats be damned.

Keep Tucker and his lunchpail period. Great mentor for Warren and Goodwin
Warren is a baller. I see him getting 20 bench minutes before the yr is done. Some of my wolf pack buddies been raving about his junkyard game... He will surprise a few. And he's a closer.

I'm happy with this

Dragic
Green
Tucker
KeifMo
Len

FA (Blake May be) / Ennis
Goodwin
Warren
Hawes
Plum

Play ball

Didn't spend a lot but have a better roster than last yr. get good , consistent minutes for our youngsters and sit back till some other squad wants to deal. Loads of cap room.

W ZBO gone, I'm no longer interested in any bignammer. good points made not to take Deng or Gasol. Sooner or later we have to see what we have in Goodwin and Len.. Warren and Ennis too. those are two smart players drafted btw

Keep the expectations realistic.

Not bad. I think that lineup could net us Jahil Okafor next summer and he could be our PF of the future and all our positions will be taken care of.

Future lineup:

Dragic
Goodwin
Warren
Okafor
Len/Plumlee

[Qwigglez]

After thinking about it for a while, I think I would trade Bledsoe for Harden. Harden is taller, doesn't have a history of injury, and is only 24 years old. Considering we were trying to get him when he was with the Thunder, but didn't want to give up the house for him, and now essentially we can get Harden for Jared Dudley, in those terms, I take the deal, lol. Plus, I never really thought Bledsoe wanted to be here, and he was more auditioning what talent he was capable of.
Sign Chandler Parsons first, sign Chris Bosh, and a S&T Bledsoe for Harden.
Three lefties in our starting lineup might be hard to defend.

[thamadkant]

Of course you'd trade Bledsoe for Harden...

Harden is a 25ppg type scorer.... from inside, outside and gets to the free throw line at elite rate.. if not best in the world.

His defensive deficiencies can be fixed by him simply putting effort... he is smart player, maybe doesnt want to pick up fouls or simply saving energy for offense... if ALL of us Suns fans put up with Nash's defense... then Harden can easily get a pass... especially if he is the number 1 shooting guard in the NBA and a top 5 scorer.

Bledsoe is a borderline star... but Harden is a legit star.... same age... and Harden's game isnt relying on explosiveness as Bledsoe does... Harden's game can last longer at an elite level.


Hence why Morey wont trade him for merely Bledsoe...

Melo or James.. or BOTH would have to be coming back to Rockets for Morey to flinch... the best thing about that is Suns is the ONLY team with the cap space and ASSETS to help Morey.... so... if Melo and Lebron does indeed consider Rockets... Suns are first in line....

[Frank Lee]

Fact is Bledsoe is not worth a max contract. You don't pay a player a Max Deal based on his potential. Sure he had a good little 40 game run with us. And threw up some pretty decent stats. But he is a 10 to 12 mill player at the most.
he's not the defensive terror as advertised btw.

There just are not that many free agents out there that we have a chance on. Parsons. Monroe, Hayward pretty much are the list of youngsters. Ring chasers Deng and Gasol pass on phnx, much like James, bosh, Melo and apparently Love.

That's just the way it is. I think we are stuck with the home grown method for now.

If EB gets a max offer, and we can't sign and trade him.... He walks in my book. I'll give his minutes along side Dragic to Goodwin Green and Warren then find a good back up PG (FA or trade) to fill in with Ennis. If Goodwin studs up you'll forget about lil lebon soon enough.

I don't want an Eric Gordan scenario on our hands, and looking at our draft where we snagged a pg, a sg, and a sg/sf, we prepared to avoid it.

Green, Goodwin , Tucker, and Warren handle the SG/SF minutes
Len and Plum split the Post
Dragic rolls 30-35
Keif gets 30

All we are lackin is 12-18 pg and 18 pf mins. Ennis grabs some of those at pg... And we either keep or replace Frye.

That's reality folks. Player collusion has changed this game.

[Frank Lee]

I'm predicting Bledsoe will get 12-14M per season which ISNT max money but still a fat contract. PJ shouldn't get more than Dudley-type cash but 3 years max. Should Frye leave then Marcus can back up Kieff at PF and Tucker/Warren at SF. Goodwin/Ennis can battle for whatever backup minutes Green doesn't take.

Hopefully Bledsoe doesn't get any more than 12. It doesn't make a ton of sense for most any team, depending on their situation, to offer him close the max, so hopefully he accepts something around 11. 12 would be ok but stretching it. Not saying I wouldn't match anything but I have a feeling if he gets a max contract, and we match it, it's going to impact team chemistry to an extent and I think it would hurt negotiations with Dragic next summer, unless we are ok paying a backcourt 30+ a year. Having Dragic and Bledsoe at 22-24 is just a big difference between having to pay them 30. Plus, you always want your players to have trade value for what they are making and not be liabilities you can't wait to get past.

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[Ryu]

If it comes to decision if pay Bledsoe the mini max or lose him for nothing I`d pay him 10 times out of 10. A no brainer really.

We can trade him later (there would be a market for him even at mini max contract) and get some valuable pieces in return, imo. If we want to. In the meantime we have Goodwin, Ennis and Bogy waiting for a major role here.

Of course, here is hoping he agree to some reasonable deal (10-12 mil per year) with us.

[Frank Lee]

Well, it look like McDo is committed to signing Bled ... According to his interview... But really what else can he say?

There is some poker playing going on right now. We are just waiting for the flop... The turn ... And the river.