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#BringBacktheBiz - The Bismack Biyombo Thread

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Re: "Guys?" The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#1021 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:39 pm

Biz Gilwalker wrote:Biz would have taken Birdman's minutes if he played for Miami, that's for sure. Now we better not gift him to Miami too.


The sad part is that I can actually see that happening. However, I think Cho values Biyombo more than Higgins did, so the fact that his option almost wasn't exercised last year is a distant memory to me now that Higgins isn't in office making choice decisions with Cho. Also, the fact that they moved Brendan Haywood before his dust chip contract hit it's peak value to create less depth at the center position on top of cap space make me believe that Cho find Biyombo valuable
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Re: "Guys?" The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#1022 » by Koorverfor3 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:35 pm

Would you consider trading him for the right deal?

One idea I had for both teams,
Mclemore, Travis Outlaw, 2nd rounder for Biz and Gary Neal

Gives you another young shooter to groom, and allows Zeller to be the first big off the bench
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Re: "Guys?" The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#1023 » by HornetJail » Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:38 pm

Koorverfor3 wrote:Would you consider trading him for the right deal?

One idea I had for both teams,
Mclemore, Travis Outlaw, 2nd rounder for Biz and Gary Neal

Gives you another young shooter to groom, and allows Zeller to be the first big off the bench

That is definitely not the "right deal". Would never trade Biz just to let Zeller see the floor. Biz>>>>Zeller.

Counter with Hendo and Zeller for McLemore, McCallum, and a 2nd
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Re: "Guys?" The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#1024 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:01 pm

Koorverfor3 wrote:Would you consider trading him for the right deal?

One idea I had for both teams,
Mclemore, Travis Outlaw, 2nd rounder for Biz and Gary Neal

Gives you another young shooter to groom, and allows Zeller to be the first big off the bench


Where do I sign?
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Re: "Guys?" The Bismack Biyombo Thread 

Post#1025 » by mrknowitall215 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:04 pm

Bismack Biyombo isn't going anywhere. Cody Zeller would be traded away before him. Nobody on the roster can duplicate what Biyombo does as a rim protector, but Cho just draft Noah Vonleh, who can do everything that we hoped Zeller could translate into
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Post#1026 » by ARHornet » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:01 pm

Koorverfor3 wrote:Would you consider trading him for the right deal?

One idea I had for both teams,
Mclemore, Travis Outlaw, 2nd rounder for Biz and Gary Neal

Gives you another young shooter to groom, and allows Zeller to be the first big off the bench

For the right deal of course you'd trade him.

That being said, that is nowhere close to the right deal. McLemore is awful.
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Post#1027 » by therebirth » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:19 am

I don't think the front office and coach are as impress with biz as the fans are. This is just my belief. When was the last time you heard anyone in the organization say anything about biz's development? I think this the end of the road for biz and a lot of fans are going to be disappointed.
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Post#1028 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:22 am

therebirth wrote:I don't think the front office and coach are as impress with biz as the fans are. This is just my belief. When was the last time you heard anyone in the organization say anything about biz's development? I think this the end of the road for biz and a lot of fans are going to be disappointed.


In 3 years he really hasn't developed like people thought he would. Sorry, I know everyone will disagree with me, but he hasn't panned out like we hoped he would thus far. Going into his 4th NBA season and he still struggles to catch a freaking bounce pass.
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Post#1029 » by Elden Payton » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:22 am

Yet Biz is still here...

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Post#1030 » by Eoghan » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:34 am

Biz just doesn't anticipate passes on offense very well i.e. poor offensive awareness. He can't really improve that without game time experience. He's caught in a catch 22 situation behind Jefferson b/c his footwork has improved (isn't whistled for travels 75% of the time now) which helps slow the game down for him but he's stuck with limited minutes b/c the offense relies on Al so much. He's got some decent moves (hooks over either shoulder, baseline jumper, and a power drop step was a nice addition this year). He just needs to improve his feel for the game and when to expect passes.
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Post#1031 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:41 am

BrotherDave wrote:Biz just doesn't anticipate passes on offense very well i.e. poor offensive awareness. He can't really improve that without game time experience. He's caught in a catch 22 situation behind Jefferson b/c his footwork has improved (isn't whistled for travels 75% of the time now) which helps slow the game down for him but he's stuck with limited minutes b/c the offense relies on Al so much. He's got some decent moves (hooks over either shoulder, baseline jumper, and a power drop step was a nice addition this year). He just needs to improve his feel for the game and when to expect passes.


I think we need to send him to the D league and get him some more experience then.
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Post#1032 » by JDR720 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:43 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:Biz just doesn't anticipate passes on offense very well i.e. poor offensive awareness. He can't really improve that without game time experience. He's caught in a catch 22 situation behind Jefferson b/c his footwork has improved (isn't whistled for travels 75% of the time now) which helps slow the game down for him but he's stuck with limited minutes b/c the offense relies on Al so much. He's got some decent moves (hooks over either shoulder, baseline jumper, and a power drop step was a nice addition this year). He just needs to improve his feel for the game and when to expect passes.


I think we need to send him to the D league and get him some more experience then.

Jordan should get us our own D-League team it would be so useful
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Post#1033 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:45 am

JDR720 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:Biz just doesn't anticipate passes on offense very well i.e. poor offensive awareness. He can't really improve that without game time experience. He's caught in a catch 22 situation behind Jefferson b/c his footwork has improved (isn't whistled for travels 75% of the time now) which helps slow the game down for him but he's stuck with limited minutes b/c the offense relies on Al so much. He's got some decent moves (hooks over either shoulder, baseline jumper, and a power drop step was a nice addition this year). He just needs to improve his feel for the game and when to expect passes.


I think we need to send him to the D league and get him some more experience then.

Jordan should get us our own D-League team it would be so useful


I can't remember the last time we sent a player to the D league. Ajinca maybe?
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Post#1034 » by Robot Rock » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:47 am

JDR720 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:Biz just doesn't anticipate passes on offense very well i.e. poor offensive awareness. He can't really improve that without game time experience. He's caught in a catch 22 situation behind Jefferson b/c his footwork has improved (isn't whistled for travels 75% of the time now) which helps slow the game down for him but he's stuck with limited minutes b/c the offense relies on Al so much. He's got some decent moves (hooks over either shoulder, baseline jumper, and a power drop step was a nice addition this year). He just needs to improve his feel for the game and when to expect passes.


I think we need to send him to the D league and get him some more experience then.

Jordan should get us our own D-League team it would be so useful


He did in 2011-12, they were called the Bobcats. :lol:
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Post#1035 » by JDR720 » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:47 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
JDR720 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
I think we need to send him to the D league and get him some more experience then.

Jordan should get us our own D-League team it would be so useful


I can't remember the last time we sent a player to the D league. Ajinca maybe?

Maybe, i can't remember either, we would probably do it more if they were't good enough to be on the team (because we sucked)
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Post#1036 » by Elden Payton » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:48 am

JDR720 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:Biz just doesn't anticipate passes on offense very well i.e. poor offensive awareness. He can't really improve that without game time experience. He's caught in a catch 22 situation behind Jefferson b/c his footwork has improved (isn't whistled for travels 75% of the time now) which helps slow the game down for him but he's stuck with limited minutes b/c the offense relies on Al so much. He's got some decent moves (hooks over either shoulder, baseline jumper, and a power drop step was a nice addition this year). He just needs to improve his feel for the game and when to expect passes.


I think we need to send him to the D league and get him some more experience then.

Jordan should get us our own D-League team it would be so useful


Place it in South Carolina.

They deserve a pro team as much as anyone.
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Post#1037 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:49 am

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JDR720 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
I think we need to send him to the D league and get him some more experience then.

Jordan should get us our own D-League team it would be so useful


Place it in South Carolina.

They deserve a pro team as much as anyone.


Last time I went to Spartanburg SC I nearly got shot and killed.
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Post#1038 » by LofJ » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:51 am

JDR720 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:Biz just doesn't anticipate passes on offense very well i.e. poor offensive awareness. He can't really improve that without game time experience. He's caught in a catch 22 situation behind Jefferson b/c his footwork has improved (isn't whistled for travels 75% of the time now) which helps slow the game down for him but he's stuck with limited minutes b/c the offense relies on Al so much. He's got some decent moves (hooks over either shoulder, baseline jumper, and a power drop step was a nice addition this year). He just needs to improve his feel for the game and when to expect passes.


I think we need to send him to the D league and get him some more experience then.

Jordan should get us our own D-League team it would be so useful


Virginia Beach is building an arena. MJ could name them after the old ABA team - the Virginia Squires. I bet they would draw consistent crowds and make some decent money for MJ.
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Post#1039 » by Elden Payton » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:58 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Jordan should get us our own D-League team it would be so useful


Place it in South Carolina.

They deserve a pro team as much as anyone.


Last time I went to Spartanburg SC I nearly got shot and killed.


:o

Was it Crittenton?
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Post#1040 » by Elden Payton » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:59 am

LofJ wrote:
JDR720 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
I think we need to send him to the D league and get him some more experience then.

Jordan should get us our own D-League team it would be so useful


Virginia Beach is building an arena. MJ could name them after the old ABA team - the Virginia Squires. I bet they would draw consistent crowds and make some decent money for MJ.


Awesome idea!

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