Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

[Frank Nova]

All I ever hear here is uptempo and ball movement. That's Jason f'ing Kidd!

But that doesn't mean I want him running the organization.

Further, there have to be a number of other strong candidates for coach that the Bucks could consider hiring AFTER they hire a top tier GM/POBO.

At the end of the day, IF a strong/sane POBO really wants to hire Jason Kidd as his coach, then I'd give him benefit of the doubt.

I don't trust Kidd at all running the organization. What does Kidd really even know about rebuilding? Even if u can say Kidd is a winner or knows how to win or whatever, that doesn't necessarily translate over. Figuring out how to win is the focus and what does Kidd really even know about it? This could spell disaster. A win now mandate would more than likely be immediately invoked here right? I mean what's next a Middleton and 1st for Paul Pierce trade? Ud have to feel pretty on edge that moves like that were to follow Kidd controlling the personnel.

[mchase27]

You'd hire a retread from some other failed team.

Where did I ever say that?

My first call though would be to Junior Bridgeman to see if he'd consider the job as part of a career change. Then I'd call Popovich and RC Buford and fly down there to have lunch with them and ask them who they think the bright minds are around the league right now.

This is a joke. You guys need to stop with these fan fantasy scenarios.

Anyway, Kidd's power play was ludicrous, but it's not like Billy King is some mastermind that should never be usurped.

[blazza18]

who realistically do you want to be GM/POBO?

I don't know, but that's because I'm not owner of the Bucks, with executive recruiting professionals and league contacts at my disposal, with the ability to spend weeks looking into it.

But if I did have those resources at my disposal, I have little doubt I could locate someone better for this role than Jason Kidd.

Kidd seems to only be rumoured for this because of his relationship with Lasry. I don't see how that is a smart basketball decision and you'd certainly have to question his thought process over that.

[Fresh_Prince12]

Running a team isn't rocket science and can anyone deny the wealth of knowledge Kidd has about the game?

Herb Kohl was our president before, HERB KOHL!

Take a deep breath people, we're going to be alright.

How did the Ray Allen trade work out for us? Kohl gave full power to Karl (another well known ego maniac) and that's the result. I think the odds are much higher for disaster than success. IMO, tmove increases the odds this team is in Seattle in 5 yrs.

As a typical Bucks apologist and season ticket holder, I have to say this really p*** me off.

to be fair didn't karl takes us 1 shot away from the finals

[cinematographer]

A reminder that Wall St. cronyism is a stronger force than gravity.

[[MIKE C]]

With all the talk from Lasry and Edens about building through the draft and following the OKC model and running the organization like the Spurs, you have to assume they aren't going to hire someone who won't adhere to those principals. So there is that. It's not like Kidd is going to come in and trade Giannis and future draft picks for old vets. I mean we have no idea what Kidd would do as a POBO because he has no track record to look at. But we have to assume he would be agreeing to follow the owner's vision if they are hiring him.

[JayMKE]

Their is no way Kidd is worse than what we had. My goodness, we were 15-67 last year! This is something like Hammond's 6th year and this was his worst year yet. I'm tired of mediocrity and it's time for the Bucks to go big or go home. This is the most excited I have been for the Bucks in years. It's almost unimaginable that at a time when the big three in Miami have all decided to opt out of their contracts that of all teams, the Bucks are the hot topic.

How is this 'going big'? Would it be 'going big' to hire any HoF player? Ask Kareem if he'd do it.

Spoiler:

Kareem would do it all night.

Going big is poaching somebody who's had great success in that job. Calling up Sam Presti, Daryl Morey, RC Buford and saying, "Whatever they're paying, we'll double it." That's going big. This is not going big.

Let's say you own a restaurant and you have an amazing waiter. For a decade, he's just unbelievable. People come to your restaurant just for the service. He's that good. Finally, he gets promoted to shift manager. After a rocky transition, he's pretty good. But after a year, he suddenly shows up in your office and demands to run the restaurant and cook all the food. His argument: "Go big or go home."

None of those guys are realistic, the only reason the Nets are allowing us to talk to Kidd is because the bridges have been burned over there. You think the compensation for Kidd is going to be bad? Imagine what we'd have to give up to any of those guys who would never in a million years leave their current job for ours.

[MrDollarBills]

Good luck you guys. This dude just pulled one of the biggest bitch moves of all time. Don't trust him.

[Wooderson]

Well if that's the case wouldn't you want someone who's not an egotistical sleaze by all accounts? Doesn't seem like the best way to build a sustainable, equanimous culture since it usually starts at the top.

well we had a "nice guy" with hammond, i'm ready to try getting a guy who's willing to do what it takes to take us to the top

Hammond's problem wasn't his demeanor, it was his incompetence. You can be a "nice guy" and still be a brilliant negotiator/coordinator/planner. Being that big of a sleaze would only hurt Kidd's credibility and ability to work with other teams. A POBO is responsible for every working relationship beneath, I don't trust Kidd in that regard.

[paulpressey25]

Kidd seems to only be rumoured for this because of his relationship with Lasry.

I think it goes beyond that. From all these quotes and sources tonight, it looks like Kidd himself believes he's going to be interviewed (or already has been interviewed) to be POBO (per Woj)

Now whether Lasry and Edens actually want Kidd or have given him indications they want him if he can get out of his Net's deal is an entirely different matter. Those two may not want Kidd at all.

[Matches Malone]

Brian Windhorst sucks


He did however mention we were in trade talks to send OJ Mayo out? First I heard of that.

[JayMKE]

who realistically do you want to be GM/POBO?

I don't know, but that's because I'm not owner of the Bucks, with executive recruiting professionals and league contacts at my disposal, with the ability to spend weeks looking into it.

But if I did have those resources at my disposal, I have little doubt I could locate someone better for this role than Jason Kidd.

Kidd seems to only be rumoured for this because of his relationship with Lasry. I don't see how that is a smart basketball decision and you'd certainly have to question his thought process over that.

his HOF playing career doesn't have anything to do with it? They're not hiring their burnout cousin, come on now.

[WeekapaugGroove]

I dislike Hammond and drew as much as the next guy but the fact they are learning about this in the media is a little messed up. It's not how you should be doing things as an organization. Really the owners should have just fired the two clowns the instant they bought the team... that was the right way to do it.

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[Zeezprah]

who realistically do you want to be GM/POBO?

I don't know, but that's because I'm not owner of the Bucks, with executive recruiting professionals and league contacts at my disposal, with the ability to spend weeks looking into it.

But if I did have those resources at my disposal, I have little doubt I could locate someone better for this role than Jason Kidd.

Kidd seems to only be rumoured for this because of his relationship with Lasry. I don't see how that is a smart basketball decision and you'd certainly have to question his thought process over that.

pretty much. people who are looking for reasoning behind it aren't going to get anything fancy. he's a friend, and that's about it.

they were probably drinking scotch one night, playing cards, and decided they should work together.

[Wooderson]

This is a joke. You guys need to stop with these fan fantasy scenarios.

Anyway, Kidd's power play was ludicrous, but it's not like Billy King is some mastermind that should never be usurped.

He was trying to overtake Razumov, the guy above King who got him hired in the first place.

[paulpressey25]

But we have to assume he would be agreeing to follow the owner's vision if they are hiring him.

The problem with that thought is that everything Jason Kidd has done his entire basketball career has been following HIS vision as it relates to his personal and professional relationships.

[humanrefutation]

Windhorst just said we were in major trade talks to send out OJ Mayo and reshape the roster before all of this happened.

[reignfire]

wow it seems like Lasry and Eden really duped Milwaukee fans. So much for following Spurs/OKC model. This is basically just trying to get a well known name.

OKC model is asset collection, building through draft, player development, sustainability, analytics.

[Ill-yasova]

All I ever hear here is uptempo and ball movement. That's Jason f'ing Kidd!

I think he's a little old to be our PG though.

I would give you an and 1 if this app allowed it.

I just gave you one because I appreciate the sentiment.

[cwally10]

Running a team isn't rocket science and can anyone deny the wealth of knowledge Kidd has about the game?

Herb Kohl was our president before, HERB KOHL!

Take a deep breath people, we're going to be alright.

How did the Ray Allen trade work out for us? Kohl gave full power to Karl (another well known ego maniac) and that's the result. I think the odds are much higher for disaster than success. IMO, tmove increases the odds this team is in Seattle in 5 yrs.

As a typical Bucks apologist and season ticket holder, I have to say this really p*** me off.

to be fair didn't karl takes us 1 shot away from the finals

True, although I've read plenty of people here say they want a title or rebuild. So I guess Karl failed and succeeded with the Allen trade.