Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

[HaroldinGMinor]

Seems to me this is KIdd leveraging for a new deal with Brooklyn. I sure as he11 don't want him as some front office type for the Bucks.

[trwi7]

Coach is essentially irrelevant, why not roll the dice with a big name?

1. Coach is essentially irrelevant = Ugh.

2. We're talking about him running the whole show, not being coach.

Ok, but what if he just came to coach? Then I think it's fine.

Is it? I'm not exactly a Larry Drew fan but Kidd took a team with a starting lineup of Williams/Johnson/Pierce/Garnett/Plumlee to 44 wins in the worst Eastern Conference ever. Yes Pierce and Garnett are old but you'd think they'd be able to finish with more than 44 wins in a conference where 5 teams lost at least 50 games and more than half of the teams finished under .500.

And say Kidd is only the coach? Who's to say he doesn't come back next year or 3 years from now demanding more control?

Or if he is POBO, how many times is he going to fire a coach and GM if it's not working out to save his ass?

This is exactly the kind of move we need to stay away from.

[mchase27]

Seems to me this is KIdd leveraging for a new deal with Brooklyn. I sure as he11 don't want him as some front office type for the Bucks.

He just blew up that bridge with the Nets.

[Pedro Alexandre]

We fans should push for that not to happen (SOB proved that fans can get changes in the course of things). It might work? yea. But chances are low in my opinion.

I think the hatred of you for Hammond is a bit exaggerated here. There is placing a newly retired player, who only became HC of a franchise on account of his name to take such an important position as pobo.

Kidd can be much worse than Hammond. We have a countdown to 2017 and mistakes can not be made ​​at the risk of the end of our team.

My hope is that this nonsense is enthusiasm Lasry, and Edens act in order to avoid that the Bucks become a "club of friends Lasry."

Seriously, even the much criticized Herb Kohl would make such a choice ...

[Fresh_Prince12]

hypothetically speaking, what happens if we don't hire kidd? does he get fired from the nets? I'm asking this what if this because what if this was a ploy to just get kidd out of new york while still being paid?

[mchase27]

1. Coach is essentially irrelevant = Ugh.

2. We're talking about him running the whole show, not being coach.

Ok, but what if he just came to coach? Then I think it's fine.

Is it? I'm not exactly a Larry Drew fan but Kidd took a team with a starting lineup of Williams/Johnson/Pierce/Garnett/Plumlee to 44 wins in the worst Eastern Conference ever. Yes Pierce and Garnett are old but you'd think they'd be able to finish with more than 44 wins in a conference where 5 teams lost at least 50 games and more than half of the teams finished under .500.

Did you watch Pierce and Garnett this year?

[trwi7]

Ok, but what if he just came to coach? Then I think it's fine.

Is it? I'm not exactly a Larry Drew fan but Kidd took a team with a starting lineup of Williams/Johnson/Pierce/Garnett/Plumlee to 44 wins in the worst Eastern Conference ever. Yes Pierce and Garnett are old but you'd think they'd be able to finish with more than 44 wins in a conference where 5 teams lost at least 50 games and more than half of the teams finished under .500.

Did you watch Pierce and Garnett this year?

Pierce who averaged 17/6/3 per 36 with nearly a 60 TS%? Garnett was fairly awful on offense but Johnson and Williams were good and they had a decent bench.

[paulpressey25]

hypothetically speaking, what happens if we don't hire kidd? does he get fired from the nets? I'm asking this what if this was a ploy to just get kidd out of new york while still being paid?

He's working the Scott Skiles play book when Skiles cleaned out his office in May 2013 after losing his power struggle with Hammond and Kohl. Skiles then wanted to be fired and get paid the balance of his contract. Of course Kohl kept him on though for the next season.

There are many Skiles parallels with Kidd.

[mchase27]

Is it? I'm not exactly a Larry Drew fan but Kidd took a team with a starting lineup of Williams/Johnson/Pierce/Garnett/Plumlee to 44 wins in the worst Eastern Conference ever. Yes Pierce and Garnett are old but you'd think they'd be able to finish with more than 44 wins in a conference where 5 teams lost at least 50 games and more than half of the teams finished under .500.

Did you watch Pierce and Garnett this year?

Pierce who averaged 17/6/3 per 36 with nearly a 60 TS%? Garnett was fairly awful on offense but Johnson and Williams were good and they had a decent bench.

Eh, it was obvious that team was poorly put together. Even with that second half push they made. That team needs to be torn down. And built the right way to be honest.

[th87]

This would be like dating a girl who's caused turmoil and drama everywhere she's been, and thinking it won't happen to you.

[Tuxedo38]

I'm wouldn't be thrilled with the Kidd hiring, but if it comes to fruition, we better not be giving up any significant assets to land him. The Nets seem eager to let him walk, so I don't know why we would gift them anything worthwhile.

[SpottedBadger]

I'm sorry, I don't want to throw shade or make personal attacks, but for those of you who want to see Jason Kidd as POBO or would be cool with that...what are you on? What basketball writers do you read? What is your relationship with understanding the dynamics of how the NBA works? Because this is a god awful move. God awful. Like objectively, patently absurd to think someone would hire Jason Kidd to run their organization, let alone an organization that is a.) rebuilding and b.) in danger of being relocated. If you think this would be a fine hire, you're just wrong.

Not to sound hyperbolic, but this would legitimately be worse than any move Herb Kohl ever made during his tenure. Kohl made awful trades and believed in the wrong players, but at least he hired personnel that were qualified to do their jobs. Regardless of how you feel about Hammond or Morway, they had good reputations and even better pedigrees to be hired as a GM or assistant GM respectively. Sure, Kohl had his cronies, but they never had direct power and they always had basketball people around to make decisions or offer input. Jason Kidd just flat out doesn't deserve this potential power. The only reason he's even connected to it is because he's friends with the owner.

I can't remember a time or moment in sports fandom where my trust for an owner has dropped so precipitously. I genuinely fear that if Jason Kidd is hired as POBO, it could literally destroy the Milwaukee Bucks. We as fans, Milwaukee as a city, and Wisconsin as a state were all on our last leg and at a wits end with Kohl's mediocre Bucks. This moment in time will ultimately serve as an inflection point in the history of the Bucks for better or for worse. I genuinely don't think the Bucks could drum up enough local support to stay in Milwaukee if the organization embarks on yet another era of incompetence.

[dogswithbeesintheirmouths]

Hiring somebody like Kidd just seems like a classic loser team move. "He was a great player and really knows the game so let's put him in charge of everything" is not what the Spurs and Thunder have been doing.

He might be a decent coach. Whatever, it doesn't matter. He's not coming to the Bucks just to be coach.

The absurdity of Kidd demanding an undeserved promotion for which he has extremely limited relevant experience and needing to leave town permanently after being denied doesn't help his case either.

[ECBucksFan]

No way to Kidd as a coach, front office, or anything in the Bucks org. He is not a winner as a human being, and is not going to be an asset to this team. We can do much, much better. We need a professional, not a name. We can afford a professional, and the Bucks future depends on Lasry and Edens getting the right POBO.

[MrPerfect1]

This would be an AWFUL hire. I cannot think of any single reason why people would want to hire him or think it is a good move.


Yes, he was a Great Player...... Unfortunately, there is no known correlation linking the Skill of Dribbling/Passing a Basketball and being able to identify talent/run an organization.

Heck, most athletes are idiots (not surprising since they get self selected due to physical abilities primarily). We need individuals with preferably experience in evaluating talent and at least has a track record indicating high intelligence/leadership.

Stereotyping right here, a lot of athletes are more cerebral than you'd think

Surely, you are not trying to imply that if you compared the Intellects collectively of NBA Players to MIT/Harvard MBA's that the 2 populations would be anywhere near each other. Likewise, I bet in athletic testing the NBA players would decimate the MIT/Harvard MBAs.

Yes, there may occasionally be a Bill Bradley/Rhode Scholar type player in the NBA but those are by far the exception. If any proof exists, that Kidd is some brilliant mind, feel free to share any. Interestingly, we do know his SAT scores. Here is what he scored on his FOUR tries

670
540
630
480

**You get 400 points for filling out your name correctly!

[worthlessBucks]

"Nothing probably happened today" -me

Bizarre. Voted no. In fact, I never would have imagined Kidd would be a candidate for anything with us. What in the hell.

[Diggr14]

I bet he'd get at least a 800 now.

(test was out of 1600 then).

[Diggr14]

Can we just pretend we are getting David Robinson/Grant Hill.

[Max Green]

As long as we don't give up any 1st round picks I'm more then fine with hiring Kidd as POBO. I understand he doesn't have any experience in a FO besides being a Head Coach for 1 year, but he's been involved with the NBA for the last 20 years, I'm pretty sure he has an idea on what the responsibilities are for the POBO and how to execute them. Also in that span of 20 years I'm sure he has identified who the Good GM's and Coaches are and I"m willing to give him the benefit of doubt that he will surround himself with highly qualified people.

[VooDoo7]

Can we just pretend we are getting David Robinson/Grant Hill.

Sure, neither of these guys have POBO experience either, but least they're good guys and well respected around the league. Other teams won't be as willing to wheel and deal with a scumbag sleazeball like Kidd.