Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

Ayt · Post #601 » by **Ayt** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:10 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Carl posted this:

After he yelled at Dmitry Kidd asked the Russians for permission to speak with the Bucks. The Russians texted his agent, and said OK. Kidd called Dmitry, and cursed him for not calling directly.

So perhaps when Lasry bought the Bucks he said something like "maybe we can work together at some point Jason". Kidd then makes a power play, knowing he'd be rebuffed, and said "OK, I want to work for the Bucks" and the Russians said OK.

I have feeling this is Kidd approaching us and not us approaching him.

In any case I don't want him as POBO, GM or Coach.

Yeah. The story is odd. I will be quite surprised if we actually hire him.

Post #602 » by **Ruzious** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:10 pm

Ayt wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:I can't believe this is going to happen. I have gone from as optimistic as ever to beaten down yet again. It's like we cannot catch a break.

Why not wait to see what, if anything, actually happens?

And given the people currently in the front office and the current coaching staff, why would any Bucks fan be optimistic?

And why not Jason Kidd? He was a tremendously successful NBA player who helped win a championship long after his physical skills were at their peek - so you know he's a thinking man's basketball person, and he got to the playoffs with the oldest and slowest team in the NBA - after going through the adversity of being a rookie coach and having his starting center out for the year. Why would he not be someone to give this chance to?

WiscoKing13 · Post #603 » by **WiscoKing13** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:14 pm

JayMKE wrote:
Bucks_MacGyver wrote:LeBron James was in Milwaukee on Friday..... I didn't think it meant anything but now idk

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what would he be doing here anyways?

Bad weather in chi and flight was diverted to Mitchell?

Nycballa2k · Post #604 » by **Nycballa2k** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:14 pm

Sherman Douglas wrote:
Nycballa2k wrote:
Sherman Douglas wrote:I think we should make Chris Brown VP of Marketing. Sure, he's a piece of **** and not qualified at all, but can you imagine the excitement among our youth? That will get the arena done. It's all about da ticket sales.

couldn't be as bad as this post

O snap son, I got owned by nycballa. I don't wanna mess wit dose mad ballin skillz yo.

Definitely got me in the feels on that one. Definitely haven't heard my username insulted in the 13 years since I created it (at age 13). The quality from you just keeps on rolling!

*yawn*

VooDoo7 · Post #605 » by **VooDoo7** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:16 pm

Ayt wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
Ayt wrote:
Why not wait to see what, if anything, actually happens?

Even if it falls through, it doesn't look good that our owners actually pursued this.

But we have no idea the degree to which they have pursued it.

Well if the rumors are true that them and the Nets were talking compensation, I'd say they're pretty serious about bring Kidd aboard.

I'd be fine with Kidd as an usher at the BC, that's about it.

JEIS · Post #606 » by **JEIS** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:17 pm

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7/3/14 Mitchell International.... I'm sure this was the long con all along. :wink:

4 to 5 years championship my ass.

nagawicka · Post #607 » by **nagawicka** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:18 pm

Updated: Lasry & Edens commitment-to-Milwaukee language is too strong to play games or change their tune. And I don't see how their good judgment leads them to hire Kidd.

nagawicka wrote:How commendable. So, to clarify:

1: Bucks acquire, in rapid succession, a charismatic phenom with international appeal and upside to spare; a solid core of developing players who haven't yet played together enough to gel; new co-owners heavily resourced with cash, vision, youth & charisma; and the consensus #1 phenom in Jabari Parker, and so --

2: -- cue the greedhead sociopath bandwagon-jumpers, none of whom could be found while Milwaukee worked to get to this point, lining up to get theirs.

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Just ask yourself two questions:
1. Does Jason Kidd have the professional chops and personal qualities required to reset the locker room, develop young prospects, turnaround the franchise, and participate in bringing about an arena deal, all while maintaining healthy relationships with the Good Burghers of Milwaukee?

2. Does Jason Kidd have the track record to Head Coach an NBA franchise at a pivotal moment in Bucks' history? After only a half-season as an effective head coach? Let alone all the other responsibilities of GM, Prznt of BB Ops, &etc., at the same time?

TheWig · Post #608 » by **TheWig** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:20 pm

machu46 wrote:
WiscoKing13 wrote:Trying to find a bright side, if we can talk them into Ersan for Thornton there's that. But than there's the problem of an Jason Kidd running an organization.

No players can be traded, so I hate to burst your bubble, but yeah...

Didn't the clippers try getting Garnett and pierce along with rivers last year, but the league shot it down?

JayMKE · Post #609 » by **JayMKE** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:20 pm

fwiw there was this girl i knew in Milwaukee that claimed to be Lebron's cousin way back, said she had been to his house in Cleveland and such. He could have family here. Heard it here first! :wink:

KingCammo · Post #610 » by **KingCammo** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:23 pm

I'm probably in the minority here but I really like it. Kidd was the butt of many jokes early on last year, but he actually did a really good job with a very depleted team.

As for being POBO? Well no one can speak to how good a President he will be, but the guy's been in the league for 20 years so I think he'd have some idea of how to operate.

All his inexperience, whether he's a good guy or not (this is the NBA though peeps, it is full of d-bags) aside. I think we should all be stoked that a legit future HOFer wants to actually be associated with us! Usually we're looking at assistants, washed out never was pieces of trash and just the very low end of the spectrum when it comes to hiring in the front office.

Whenever I make a decision, I think 'what is the worst case scenario'. The worst case scenario here is that he sucks and we fire him. So on that basis alone, let's give it a swing.

machu46 · Post #611 » by **machu46** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:26 pm

TheWig wrote:
machu46 wrote:
WiscoKing13 wrote:Trying to find a bright side, if we can talk them into Ersan for Thornton there's that. But than there's the problem of an Jason Kidd running an organization.

No players can be traded, so I hate to burst your bubble, but yeah...

Didn't the clippers try getting Garnett and pierce along with rivers last year, but the league shot it down?

Yes, they shot it down because involving players isn't allowed.

Wise1 · Post #612 » by **Wise1** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:29 pm

Kidd's first order of business as Milwaukee Bucks POBO....nail Mallory Lasry.

Wonka · Post #613 » by **Wonka** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:30 pm

Wise1 wrote:Kidd's first order of business as Milwaukee Bucks POBO....nail Mallory Lasry.

and then the domestic abuse comes...

PedroGrande · Post #614 » by **PedroGrande** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:30 pm

Wise1 wrote:Kidd's first order of business as Milwaukee Bucks POBO....nail Mallory Lasry.

Who is Mallory Lasry?

clutchiness · Post #615 » by **clutchiness** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:30 pm

the worst-case scenario is that kidd damages the bucks' brand even more, making milwaukee a target for agents and other teams looking to exploit a franchise that makes terrible, irrational decisions.

the on and off-court failures, and jabari parker proving to not be an all-star caliber player but jsut a solid pro, would then precede a move to seattle where they can reset all over again.

that's the worst-case scenario.

Ayt · Post #616 » by **Ayt** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:31 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
Ayt wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:Even if it falls through, it doesn't look good that our owners actually pursued this.

But we have no idea the degree to which they have pursued it.

Well if the rumors are true that them and the Nets were talking compensation, I'd say they're pretty serious about bring Kidd aboard.

I'd be fine with Kidd as an usher at the BC, that's about it.

Saying they have "discussed compensation" could mean all kinds of things in terms of how serious we actually are about it. If we even wanted to float the idea of possibly hiring Kidd, compensation would have come up in the conversation we'd have with Brooklyn to get permission to talk to him.

JayMKE · Post #617 » by **JayMKE** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:32 pm

clutchiness wrote:the worst-case scenario is that kidd damages the bucks' brand even more, making milwaukee a target for agents and other teams looking to exploit a franchise that makes terrible, irrational decisions.

the on and off-court failures, and jabari parker proving to not be an all-star caliber player but jsut a solid pro, would then precede a move to seattle where they can reset all over again.

that's the worst-case scenario.

and John Hammond is what?

JEIS · Post #618 » by **JEIS** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:32 pm

JayMKE wrote::reporter: fwiw there was this girl i knew in Milwaukee that claimed to be Lebron's cousin way back, said she had been to his house in Cleveland and such. He could have family here. Heard it here first!

The plot thickens

PedroGrande · Post #619 » by **PedroGrande** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:33 pm

JayMKE wrote:
clutchiness wrote:the worst-case scenario is that kidd damages the bucks' brand even more, making milwaukee a target for agents and other teams looking to exploit a franchise that makes terrible, irrational decisions.

the on and off-court failures, and jabari parker proving to not be an all-star caliber player but jsut a solid pro, would then precede a move to seattle where they can reset all over again.

that's the worst-case scenario.

and John Hammond is what?

The guy who didn't draft exum. Maybe kidd would order the GM to do it;)

Frank Nova · Post #620 » by **Frank Nova** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 5:36 pm

KingCammo wrote:I'm probably in the minority here but I really like it. Kidd was the butt of many jokes early on last year, but he actually did a really good job with a very depleted team.

As for being POBO? Well no one can speak to how good a President he will be, but the guy's been in the league for 20 years so I think he'd have some idea of how to operate.

All his inexperience, whether he's a good guy or not (this is the NBA though peeps, it is full of d-bags) aside. I think we should all be stoked that a legit future HOFer wants to actually be associated with us! Usually we're looking at assistants, washed out never was pieces of trash and just the very low end of the spectrum when it comes to hiring in the front office.

Whenever I make a decision, I think 'what is the worst case scenario'. The worst case scenario here is that he sucks and we fire him. So on that basis alone, let's give it a swing.

Ur flirting with disaster here tho. It's not that cut and dry "if he sucks, fire him". It's more like, "if he sucks, he's going to fire everyone under him as many times as it takes to save his job". That could last multiple seasons rather easily. And especially the fact he has a personal relationship with the new owner. Mixing business with personal is a dangerous combination and fails majority of the time. Lasry could continue to give Kidd a chance because he doesn't want to "lose a friend".

If this thing doesn't work out then drafting Giannis and Parker was all for nothing. By the time this whole situation was burned down and turned around, Parker and Giannis could either be halfway out the door or even worse, long gone. That a risk I'm not willing to take at all.

2/3 years from now I'd gladly eat crow if I'm wrong but I'd truthfully be disgusted with the franchise if I had to say I told u so...

This has NYK/Isaiah Thomas bad written all over it IMO.

Do you want the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO?