Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

Chuck Diesel · Post #861 » by **Chuck Diesel** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:32 pm

Interesting to see how they spin this. I could see Kidd being hired just to coach initially & being named president at a later date once the noise quiets down. Odd reversal to go from everyone reporting that he is in line to become POBO & NOT coach to the exact opposite.

SkilesTheLimit · Post #862 » by **SkilesTheLimit** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:32 pm

Still terrified at the thought of even giving up a 2nd rounder.

How does this leave Hammond and any future GM? They inherit the Lasry hand-picked coach and have no say when it comes to hiring/firing their coach? Sets up for future turmoil with Kidd going straight to ownership when he doesn't get his way. This organizational culture would suck.

[MIKE C] · Post #863 » by **[MIKE C]** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:32 pm

PedroGrande wrote:And he insists:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ericbuenning/status/483373748868108288[/tweet]

Of course he might just be coach, but coach with how much authority? Is he being brought in under Hammond if Hammond apparently wasn't involved in this and had no idea this was going on? Or would he be a head coach with equal authority as the GM and input into personnel?

PedroGrande · Post #864 » by **PedroGrande** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:32 pm

Calm down guys, its still only eric talking about this... I'm still affraid lol

Ayt · Post #865 » by **Ayt** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:33 pm

ampd wrote:On a grander scale, I'd think the NBA would see they need to do something about this going into the future. Its a bit of an alarming trend to have teams openly tampering with each others coaches.

I'm not seeing how any tampering needed to be involved. It isn't tampering if Kidd brought this to us and we followed up on it with the Nets.

Matches Malone · Post #866 » by **Matches Malone** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:33 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/cf_gardner/status/483376533110026240[/tweet]

@cf_gardner 6m
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League source indicates Bucks only offering Jason Kidd a coaching job, not a front-office position.

machu46 · Post #867 » by **machu46** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:33 pm

Ayt wrote:
[MIKE C] wrote:The Nets can certainly be stubborn and refuse to let Kidd go to the Bucks, but they'd have to keep paying Kidd then. If they want to get rid of Kidd and his contract then they really have no leverage, unless there is another team in the league that also wants Kidd. The Bucks are right, if they take Kidd and take his contract off the Net's hands, then there really is no need for any other compensation.

Yeah. What is their alternative? Keep him as a very disgruntled head coach?

Nets fans insist that the Russian would just demote him to an assistant like they did Lawrence Frank and "stick it to us" by not letting us have him lol

Our owners can't possibly be stupid enough to give in to this crap right?

JoeJohnson2two · Post #868 » by **JoeJohnson2two** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:33 pm

glenn wrote:So this is probably why you don't have an aneurism before you hear from both sides. Nets PR had itself quite the 24 hours.

Exactly. But nah, let's just freak out cuz that's the nature of RealGM.

zjl3 · Post #869 » by **zjl3** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:33 pm

Isn't it still weird that Kidd would be this connected to the Bucks HC job w/o Drew knowing? Most posters here were originally against the idea of Kidd being HC, so it's not like people should be happy w/ Kidd as HC because he won't be POBO.

Balls2TheWalls · Post #870 » by **Balls2TheWalls** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:33 pm

StikWitEM wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/cf_gardner/status/483376533110026240[/tweet]

Gardner the font of breaking Bucks coverage.

Matches Malone · Post #871 » by **Matches Malone** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:33 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/cf_gardner/status/483376981103243265[/tweet]

Chapter29 · Post #872 » by **Chapter29** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:34 pm

So Kidd as coach? OK.

Bring in Livingston and have him start at PG?

DanoMac · Post #873 » by **DanoMac** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:34 pm

I breathed the biggest sigh of relief when I read Kidd wouldn't be POBO. Thank God.

Matches Malone · Post #874 » by **Matches Malone** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:34 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/cf_gardner/status/483377259257282560[/tweet]

[MIKE C] · Post #875 » by **[MIKE C]** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:35 pm

StikWitEM wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/cf_gardner/status/483376533110026240[/tweet]

So is Gardner still considered a Buck's mouthpiece now that Kohl is gone? Or is he getting his info from RealGM now like everyone else?

Ayt · Post #876 » by **Ayt** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:35 pm

Chuck Diesel wrote:Interesting to see how they spin this. I could see Kidd being hired just to coach initially & being named president at a later date once the noise quiets down. Odd reversal to go from everyone reporting that he is in line to become POBO & NOT coach to the exact opposite.

It is sports "journalism." They get things wrong all the time.

H2tObes · Post #877 » by **H2tObes** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:36 pm

I can rest easy as long as Kidd only is being considered for the HC spot.

There's no way we're giving up a 1st guys, don't be irrational

bizarro · Post #878 » by **bizarro** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:40 pm

This just gets better and better. Drew for Kidd - why the hell not. Kidd not considered for POBO - even better. This offseason has been fantastic!

LedZepp007 · Post #879 » by **LedZepp007** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:42 pm

Wow this is some serious drama

FlagsFlyForever · Post #880 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:42 pm

Ill-yasova wrote:
ElPeregrino wrote:
WiscoKing13 wrote:My main question still hasn't been answered, what has Kidd done in his entire career to be qualified for this job that separates him from the rest of the former players? More so after the 12 months he's had in BK, what has he done to be qualified for this job?

To offer him this Job makes no sense at all.

The argument for Kidd is he was known as a high basketball IQ player (Larry Bird) who didn't get by based on tremendous athleticism or physical superiority (Michael Jordan, Isiah Thomas, so many others that failed).

He coached the Nets admirably, leading an injured and mismanaged roster to a 33-13 stretch where they were one of the best teams in the league, and advanced them to the second round of the playoffs. Jason Kidd wanted Lawrence Frank demoted, and when that happened, the Nets improved significantly. Kidd was highly criticized for this, but he recognized what it would take to win and he went after it, proving himself to be correct in the end.

Billy King has done a terrible job, a sentiment I think we all would agree with here. Something that Jason Kidd is on board with as well. Kidd understands that is not how you build a roster, and he wants to build one he believes can win.

Kidd is a household name and legendary figure in basketball. He, along with Jabari Parker, bring instant intrigue to a franchise who has been so terrible, their fanbase frequently recounts the glorious 46-36 season in 2010 when they almost made it out of the first round of the playoffs.

As a player, Kidd's teams amassed a 812-579 (58.4%) record in games he played. Those same teams that were so great with Kidd, went 118-167 (41.4%) in games Kidd did not play. Kidd knows how to win.

Kidd played the most minutes for the Mavericks in 2011, averaging 34 minutes per game as the floor general during their NBA championship.

This is a huge risk, there is no doubt about that. But if there's anybody you're going to take a chance on for this, it's Jason Kidd.

Marc Lasry is good friends with Jason Kidd and has a relationship with him that goes back years. Nobody knows Kidd better than him, and if he believes Kidd would be a great fit then his opinion is the one that should count the most.

Tell me a little bit about Michael Jordan's career winning percentage too while you have your basketball reference page up....

I specifically mentioned Michael Jordan by name as an example of someone who had success as a player in an opposing manner to Kidd. Jordan did it with freakish athleticism and otherworldly natural gifts. Kidd's success was because of his intelligence. That was my argument.

Do you want the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO?