The Trade Thread - v2

[Q00]

I would love to get ariza.

Why? His hands down best seasons came when he was on an expiring contract. That doesn't raise a massive red flag for you? On top of the fact that any deal he signs will go through him being in his 30's.

Ariza is fools gold. I guarantee it.

I would't be expecting all-star production out of him either way. Worst case he adds a great perimeter defender and a 3pt shooter, both huge needs, and he's been both of those things his whole career whether contract year or not. So if that's all we're paying him to be we should get our moneys worth.

Unrelated, but I hear T-Wolves may be interested in trading Love for Parsons in a S&T. If HE can fetch K Love, it makes me think we might be able to get more for Monroe then we're being led to believe.

Monroe isn't the best FA on the market, but he's at least better than Parsons.

I also heard Suns are going hard after Hayward, but Jazz expected to match any offer. If Hayward/Parsons get the max, I bet Monroe does too. There's going to be a lot of teams with capspace who missed on lebron/melo and looking to spend, which usually ends up with secondary talent getting overpaid.

[Blkbrd671]

Pistons expected to pursue Ariza once FA starts. Also, Lakers expected to pursue Monroe if they don't get LeBron/Carmelo.

Now that they have Randle, I wonder if they would be willing use him as a trade chip to get Monroe? If Kobe has any say, I'm sure he would prefer the more experienced big man over a rookie. And for us, we basically get the same player on a rookie contract instead of max deal (and a more natural PF).

I'm sure Lakers would rather keep Randle and have both, but if they want Monroe they really have no other assets to offer. And if Lakers get Pau back as the article suggests, they may not need Randle. Monroe/Pau would be a nice tandem for them.

If they are unable to land Anthony or James, the Lakers are also expected to have a strong interest in Washington free-agent forward Trevor Ariza, Raptors guard Kyle Lowry, Detroit center Greg Monroe and Phoenix forward Channing Frye, according to sources.

Ariza, 29, was a key part of the Lakers 2009 NBA championship team, but left after the team chose to sign Ron Artest to a five-year deal following the season. The former UCLA star is coming off a career season with the Washington Wizards, in which he averaged 14.4 points and posted career highs in field goal percentage (45.6), 3-point percentage (40.7) and rebounds (6.2).

The Washington Post reported last month that the Wizards would like to re-sign him.

The Rockets, Mavericks, Pistons, Clippers and Suns are all expected to pursue Ariza once free agency opens on July 1, according to sources.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/stor ... les-lakers

I don't think Detroits in the Running for Ariza, he's going to command 10+ mil, and SVG has stated he's not looking to spend a lot of money on 1 player but rather pieces.

[DetroitSho]

I would love to get ariza.

Why? His hands down best seasons came when he was on an expiring contract. That doesn't raise a massive red flag for you? On top of the fact that any deal he signs will go through him being in his 30's.

Ariza is fools gold. I guarantee it.

And people didn't want Iggy last year, who is miles better for this team. Not sure what changed in a year where people now want a 29 year old SF through free agency.

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[Blkbrd671]

I feel like Kings will call back wanting Smith as well eventually.

Just before the NBA Draft, The Pistons nixed a trade proposal from the Sacramento Kings, that would of sent Jason Thompson and Derick Williams to Detroit for Josh Smith.

Now, after drafting Nik Stauskas with the 8th overall pick, it seems that the Kings are more willing to move last year’s first round pick in some type of trade.

ESPN’s Joe Kaiser believes that trade talks between the Kings and the Pistons might resurface with former Kansas guard Ben McLemore now being available.

http://pistonspalace.com/2014/06/29/tra ... osh-smith/

I didn't like the first proposal, but I'd do this deal for McLemore. We need to get a perimeter player with superstar potential to pair with Drummond, and with so few available, this would be hard to pass on.

I wonder if he was the Pistons target all along and that's why they nixed the original deal. Maybe they were playing hardball, and it prompted the Kings to take Stauskas to allow them to trade McLemore to us.

If this trade were to go down, i'd prefer Mclemore go to a 3rd team and we get a SF. Maybe to Milwakee for Giannis atekembonononbobobo?

[Sheeeeed]

I feel like Kings will call back wanting Smith as well eventually.

Just before the NBA Draft, The Pistons nixed a trade proposal from the Sacramento Kings, that would of sent Jason Thompson and Derick Williams to Detroit for Josh Smith.

Now, after drafting Nik Stauskas with the 8th overall pick, it seems that the Kings are more willing to move last year’s first round pick in some type of trade.

ESPN’s Joe Kaiser believes that trade talks between the Kings and the Pistons might resurface with former Kansas guard Ben McLemore now being available.

http://pistonspalace.com/2014/06/29/tra ... osh-smith/

I didn't like the first proposal, but I'd do this deal for McLemore. We need to get a perimeter player with superstar potential to pair with Drummond, and with so few available, this would be hard to pass on.

I wonder if he was the Pistons target all along and that's why they nixed the original deal. Maybe they were playing hardball, and it prompted the Kings to take Stauskas to allow them to trade McLemore to us.

If this trade were to go down, i'd prefer Mclemore go to a 3rd team and we get a SF. Maybe to Milwakee for Giannis atekembonononbobobo?

Dream on. Giannis might end up being the player of the 2013 draft.

[Blkbrd671]

Dream on. Giannis might end up being the player of the 2013 draft.

Based off of one season? The 2013 class isn't exactly loaded w talent. Also they just drafted PArker, who they'll start at PF. If that doesn't work, than Giannis probably becomes available.

[Sheeeeed]

Dream on. Giannis might end up being the player of the 2013 draft.

Based off of one season? The 2013 class isn't exactly loaded w talent. Also they just drafted PArker, who they'll start at PF. If that doesn't work, than Giannis probably becomes available.

No, if they have to move Parker to SF, they can just move Giannis to SG. He is that versatile, and hes supposedly grew another 2 inches since the season ended. They would be stupid to get rid of him so soon.

[Kilo]

Atlanta trades Mo Williams and Nogueira (2013 first round pick center) to the Raps for John Salmons, who will be bought out for $1M tomorrow, saving the Hawks $6M in cap space.

Toronto gets a veteran PG and a young center prospect for their cap space. I assume this means Vasquez is surely a goner, though Masai will want to S&T him.

Who is Atlanta after with this cap space?

[Blkbrd671]

Atlanta trades Mo Williams and Nogueira (2013 first round pick center) to the Raps for John Salmons, who will be bought out for $1M tomorrow, saving the Hawks $6M in cap space.

Toronto gets a veteran PG and a young center prospect for their cap space. I assume this means Vasquez is surely a goner, though Masai will want to S&T him.

Who is Atlanta after with this cap space?

Supposedly looking at monroe, however i don't think they'd offer himt he max. would love milsap back in a S&T

[Q00]

Pistons expected to pursue Ariza once FA starts. Also, Lakers expected to pursue Monroe if they don't get LeBron/Carmelo.

Now that they have Randle, I wonder if they would be willing use him as a trade chip to get Monroe? If Kobe has any say, I'm sure he would prefer the more experienced big man over a rookie. And for us, we basically get the same player on a rookie contract instead of max deal (and a more natural PF).

I'm sure Lakers would rather keep Randle and have both, but if they want Monroe they really have no other assets to offer. And if Lakers get Pau back as the article suggests, they may not need Randle. Monroe/Pau would be a nice tandem for them.

If they are unable to land Anthony or James, the Lakers are also expected to have a strong interest in Washington free-agent forward Trevor Ariza, Raptors guard Kyle Lowry, Detroit center Greg Monroe and Phoenix forward Channing Frye, according to sources.

Ariza, 29, was a key part of the Lakers 2009 NBA championship team, but left after the team chose to sign Ron Artest to a five-year deal following the season. The former UCLA star is coming off a career season with the Washington Wizards, in which he averaged 14.4 points and posted career highs in field goal percentage (45.6), 3-point percentage (40.7) and rebounds (6.2).

The Washington Post reported last month that the Wizards would like to re-sign him.

The Rockets, Mavericks, Pistons, Clippers and Suns are all expected to pursue Ariza once free agency opens on July 1, according to sources.

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/stor ... les-lakers

I don't think Detroits in the Running for Ariza, he's going to command 10+ mil, and SVG has stated he's not looking to spend a lot of money on 1 player but rather pieces.

He said he wasn't going to spend it all on 1 player, but they would look to spend half on 1 guy, then get another in the MLE range (5-6 mil), then maybe another in the low-level salary area. I think that's what he meant by spreading it out.

Shelbourne is very credible and Ellis mentioned Ariza yesterday too, so I assume he is one of their targets, either to spend half their money on or in that MLE range

I really doubt he's going to command more money than his previous contract, unless all these teams bid the price up. He got 7 mil/yr on his last deal and it proved to be overpaid, so now that he's older I don't see teams giving him even more money. He will probably end up getting around an MLE type deal, maybe the same 7 mil/yr he got before, but 10+ mil seems outrageous.

[Blkbrd671]

Dream on. Giannis might end up being the player of the 2013 draft.

Based off of one season? The 2013 class isn't exactly loaded w talent. Also they just drafted PArker, who they'll start at PF. If that doesn't work, than Giannis probably becomes available.

No, if they have to move Parker to SF, they can just move Giannis to SG. He is that versatile, and hes supposedly grew another 2 inches since the season ended. They would be stupid to get rid of him so soon.

Highly doubt it, 6'11" SG is going to have trouble defending the Smaller SG's. And i don't think that trading one of your highly touted SF's for another highly touted SG is stupid.

[Kilo]

Atlanta trades Mo Williams and Nogueira (2013 first round pick center) to the Raps for John Salmons, who will be bought out for $1M tomorrow, saving the Hawks $6M in cap space.

Toronto gets a veteran PG and a young center prospect for their cap space. I assume this means Vasquez is surely a goner, though Masai will want to S&T him.

Who is Atlanta after with this cap space?

Supposedly looking at monroe, however i don't think they'd offer himt he max. would love milsap back in a S&T

I'd want Payne+ in any S&T. A future first as well. Having more than one in a single draft looked like a lot of fun.

[Q00]

I feel like Kings will call back wanting Smith as well eventually.

Just before the NBA Draft, The Pistons nixed a trade proposal from the Sacramento Kings, that would of sent Jason Thompson and Derick Williams to Detroit for Josh Smith.

Now, after drafting Nik Stauskas with the 8th overall pick, it seems that the Kings are more willing to move last year’s first round pick in some type of trade.

ESPN’s Joe Kaiser believes that trade talks between the Kings and the Pistons might resurface with former Kansas guard Ben McLemore now being available.

http://pistonspalace.com/2014/06/29/tra ... osh-smith/

I didn't like the first proposal, but I'd do this deal for McLemore. We need to get a perimeter player with superstar potential to pair with Drummond, and with so few available, this would be hard to pass on.

I wonder if he was the Pistons target all along and that's why they nixed the original deal. Maybe they were playing hardball, and it prompted the Kings to take Stauskas to allow them to trade McLemore to us.

If this trade were to go down, i'd prefer Mclemore go to a 3rd team and we get a SF. Maybe to Milwakee for Giannis atekembonononbobobo?

Depends who the SF is. Giannis looks solid, but probably nothing more than the next Batum at best. McLemore has way more potential. I think I'd have to choose him of those two.

[Q00]

Atlanta trades Mo Williams and Nogueira (2013 first round pick center) to the Raps for John Salmons, who will be bought out for $1M tomorrow, saving the Hawks $6M in cap space.

Toronto gets a veteran PG and a young center prospect for their cap space. I assume this means Vasquez is surely a goner, though Masai will want to S&T him.

Who is Atlanta after with this cap space?

Mo Williams was on Portland last year and he's an UFA. How did Atlanta trade him to the Raps?

[Kilo]

Atlanta trades Mo Williams and Nogueira (2013 first round pick center) to the Raps for John Salmons, who will be bought out for $1M tomorrow, saving the Hawks $6M in cap space.

Toronto gets a veteran PG and a young center prospect for their cap space. I assume this means Vasquez is surely a goner, though Masai will want to S&T him.

Who is Atlanta after with this cap space?

Mo Williams was on Portland last year and he's an UFA. How did Atlanta trade him to the Raps?

Lou, not Mo. My apologies.

[Blkbrd671]

Atlanta trades Mo Williams and Nogueira (2013 first round pick center) to the Raps for John Salmons, who will be bought out for $1M tomorrow, saving the Hawks $6M in cap space.

Toronto gets a veteran PG and a young center prospect for their cap space. I assume this means Vasquez is surely a goner, though Masai will want to S&T him.

Who is Atlanta after with this cap space?

Supposedly looking at monroe, however i don't think they'd offer himt he max. would love milsap back in a S&T

I'd want Payne+ in any S&T. A future first as well. Having more than one in a single draft looked like a lot of fun.

i had forgotten about that, Payne would be awesome return. However any trade w atlanta wouldn't fill a need at SF

[ADflight1]

Atlanta trades Mo Williams and Nogueira (2013 first round pick center) to the Raps for John Salmons, who will be bought out for $1M tomorrow, saving the Hawks $6M in cap space.

Toronto gets a veteran PG and a young center prospect for their cap space. I assume this means Vasquez is surely a goner, though Masai will want to S&T him.

Who is Atlanta after with this cap space?

Supposedly looking at monroe, however i don't think they'd offer himt he max. would love milsap back in a S&T

I don't see why the Hawks would pursue Monroe when they have 2 better big men. Just doesn't make sense.

[Blkbrd671]

Depends who the SF is. Giannis looks solid, but probably nothing more than the next Batum at best. McLemore has way more potential. I think I'd have to choose him of those two.

We'd have to choose between KCPor Mclemore, or they'd be stunting each others growth. I'd rather have KCP at this point. PO

[Blkbrd671]

I don't see why the Hawks would pursue Monroe when they have 2 better big men. Just doesn't make sense.

I may be wrong, but i believe i read a article on there interest. i'm just passing the word down

[Q00]

Atlanta trades Mo Williams and Nogueira (2013 first round pick center) to the Raps for John Salmons, who will be bought out for $1M tomorrow, saving the Hawks $6M in cap space.

Toronto gets a veteran PG and a young center prospect for their cap space. I assume this means Vasquez is surely a goner, though Masai will want to S&T him.

Who is Atlanta after with this cap space?

Mo Williams was on Portland last year and he's an UFA. How did Atlanta trade him to the Raps?

Lou, not Mo. My apologies.

oh lol , no problem, I just wasn't sure if you meant it was Portland who made the trade or ATL.

If its ATL, they could be clearing space for Monroe.