#BringBacktheBiz - The Bismack Biyombo Thread

Liver_Pooty · Post #1041 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:04 am

Sik Infant wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
Place it in South Carolina.

They deserve a pro team as much as anyone.

Last time I went to Spartanburg SC I nearly got shot and killed.

Was it Crittenton?

Too many transplants from Hurricane Katrina.

Elden Payton · Post #1042 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:05 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Last time I went to Spartanburg SC I nearly got shot and killed.

Was it Crittenton?

Too many transplants from Hurricane Katrina.

that makes me sad.

glad you're still with us LP.

Eoghan · Post #1043 » by **Eoghan** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:05 am

Some D-League stints would be good for Biz except for a couple of things: D-league is a guard's league, hordes of guards and wings just gunning for a crack at the big time. 2) Would increase exposure of Biz to other teams and drive up his value (good or bad depending on whether you want to trade him or resign him for cheap).

I agree that having our own D-league team would be good for Biz. MJ is a billionaire now, he needs to get this done. He can even name it the Bobcats, ha ha.

Liver_Pooty · Post #1044 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:12 am

BrotherDave wrote:Some D-League stints would be good for Biz except for a couple of things: D-league is a guard's league, hordes of guards and wings just gunning for a crack at the big time. 2) Would increase exposure of Biz to other teams and drive up his value (good or bad depending on whether you want to trade him or resign him for cheap).

I agree that having our own D-league team would be good for Biz. MJ is a billionaire now, he needs to get this done. He can even name it the Bobcats, ha ha.

Your first sentence is the reason why I think people need to be cautious on Hairston. Jeremy Lamb lit up the D league like it was his personal playground, and we see how he performs in the NBA.

Elden Payton · Post #1045 » by **Elden Payton** » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:19 am

I'm just refreshing on Biz footage and looking at some numbers and I'm more convinced than ever he will be our starting C of the future post alfense.

If Biz can be and 8/12/3 player shooting 55+ percent, he will be just fine.

Per 36 last season he averaged 7.5/12.3/2.9 on .611 percent.

For his career he is averaging 7.1/10.1/2.6 on .486 percent.

He's definitely improving, posting his highest PER, TS%, eFG%, FTr, ORB%, DRB%, TRB%, BLK%, ORtg, DRtg, OWS, DWS, WS and WS/48 this season.

At worst he's a backup 5 for 10+ years imo.

Who-rod · Post #1046 » by **Who-rod** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:18 am

If a team like the Celtics came looking to make an offer for him, what would it take? The Celtics understand they aren't going to win a lot of games, and I think they'd accept the growing pains of playing BB 30 minutes per game. They are desperate for rim protection, and BB clearly provides that.

Post #1047 » by **BigSlam** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:23 am

Who-rod wrote:If a team like the Celtics came looking to make an offer for him, what would it take? The Celtics understand they aren't going to win a lot of games, and I think they'd accept the growing pains of playing BB 30 minutes per game. They are desperate for rim protection, and BB clearly provides that.

Your unprotected 1st round pick next year.

mrknowitall215 · Post #1048 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:23 am

Who-rod wrote:If a team like the Celtics came looking to make an offer for him, what would it take? The Celtics understand they aren't going to win a lot of games, and I think they'd accept the growing pains of playing BB 30 minutes per game. They are desperate for rim protection, and BB clearly provides that.

Personally, there's no one currently on the Celtics roster that intrigue me enough to trade Bismack Biyombo outside of a package including Marcus Smart (highly unlikely) or James Young (unlikely). I like Kelly Olynyk a lot, but not enough to trade Biyombo because we now have Noah Vonleh who's projected to be capable of doing similar things and more (especially on the defensive end) once he put it all together

...but if you ask some around here who irrationally don't value Biyombo, he could be had for Phil Pressey

Elden Payton · Post #1049 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:25 am

Who-rod wrote:If a team like the Celtics came looking to make an offer for him, what would it take? The Celtics understand they aren't going to win a lot of games, and I think they'd accept the growing pains of playing BB 30 minutes per game. They are desperate for rim protection, and BB clearly provides that.

I'm as high as P.J. Hairston on him so to me at least, it would take something that you just cannot turn down.

Biyombo is one of the only 2, recognised defenders on this team along with MKG, since we are a defensive team, this is important imo.

I'd hate for Charlotte to put years of development into him, only to see him flourish somewhere else after we've traded him for peanuts.

He only played 13.9mpg last season and still challenged 4+ shots at the rim a game, which opponents shot 40 percent on, making him the league leader.

That is elite rim protection.

Who-rod · Post #1050 » by **Who-rod** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:25 am

BigSlam wrote:
Who-rod wrote:If a team like the Celtics came looking to make an offer for him, what would it take? The Celtics understand they aren't going to win a lot of games, and I think they'd accept the growing pains of playing BB 30 minutes per game. They are desperate for rim protection, and BB clearly provides that.

Your unprotected 1st round pick next year.

Interesting. Thanks for the feedback. He certainly has some interesting physical tools.

Who-rod · Post #1051 » by **Who-rod** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:28 am

Sik Infant wrote:
Who-rod wrote:If a team like the Celtics came looking to make an offer for him, what would it take? The Celtics understand they aren't going to win a lot of games, and I think they'd accept the growing pains of playing BB 30 minutes per game. They are desperate for rim protection, and BB clearly provides that.

I'm as high as P.J. Hairston on him so to me at least, it would take something that you just cannot turn down.

Biyombo is one of the only 2, recognised defenders on this team along with MKG, since we are a defensive team, this is important imo.

I'd hate for Charlotte to put years of development into him, only to see him flourish somewhere else after we've traded him for peanuts.

He only played 13.9mpg last season and still challenged 4+ shots at the rim a game, which opponents shot 40 percent on, making him the league leader.

That is elite rim protection.

It certainly is. His blocks per minute were second in the NBA last year. That is a clear indicator of his strengths. I didn't know if his reduction in minutes was proof of him being in the dog house, your team making a playoff run, or of some larger issue. Sounds like it hasn't hurt his perceived value here.

mrknowitall215 · Post #1052 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:29 am

Sik Infant wrote:I'm as high as P.J. Hairston on him

Elden Payton · Post #1053 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:40 am

Who-rod wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:
Who-rod wrote:If a team like the Celtics came looking to make an offer for him, what would it take? The Celtics understand they aren't going to win a lot of games, and I think they'd accept the growing pains of playing BB 30 minutes per game. They are desperate for rim protection, and BB clearly provides that.

I'm as high as P.J. Hairston on him so to me at least, it would take something that you just cannot turn down.

Biyombo is one of the only 2, recognised defenders on this team along with MKG, since we are a defensive team, this is important imo.

I'd hate for Charlotte to put years of development into him, only to see him flourish somewhere else after we've traded him for peanuts.

He only played 13.9mpg last season and still challenged 4+ shots at the rim a game, which opponents shot 40 percent on, making him the league leader.

That is elite rim protection.

It certainly is. His blocks per minute were second in the NBA last year. That is a clear indicator of his strengths. I didn't know if his reduction in minutes was proof of him being in the dog house, your team making a playoff run, or of some larger issue. Sounds like it hasn't hurt his perceived value here.

Biz is a natural 5 and with Jefferson playing at an all-nba level, it was just plain hard to fit Biz in for minutes.

We're dying to see Clifford try Biz at the 4 but I can understand (to some degree) why it hasn't happened.

McBob is very important to our structure (seriously) and Zeller was being force fed minutes for development, since we were in win mode, it's a fine balance with all our young guys.

It's hard to root against Biz, he works so damn hard, there are stories about how reknowned gym rats, Kemba and MKG have to tell him to go home, otherwise he'll just work on his game all day and night!

He does too much crossfit though, although bulking up is a big part of playing the 5 effectively night in and out.

Elden Payton · Post #1054 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:41 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:I'm as high as P.J. Hairston on him

Liver_Pooty · Post #1055 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:50 am

If Biyombo worked on his game as much as he does crossfit he could end up being a really solid player.

Elden Payton · Post #1056 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:53 am

He is a really solid player right now.

Post #1057 » by **JDR720** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:54 am

Sik Infant wrote:He is a really solid player right now.

on defense yes, on offense he is still bad

Elden Payton · Post #1058 » by **Elden Payton** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 1:58 am

JDR720 wrote:
Sik Infant wrote:He is a really solid player right now.

on defense yes, on offense he is still bad

Sadly if he was all offense and no defense he would be called a future star :wink:

People just don't care that the game is played on both sides of the court. :nonono:

Post #1059 » by **JDR720** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:01 am

#BizSwag

HornetJail · Post #1060 » by **HornetJail** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:03 am

Who-rod wrote:If a team like the Celtics came looking to make an offer for him, what would it take? The Celtics understand they aren't going to win a lot of games, and I think they'd accept the growing pains of playing BB 30 minutes per game. They are desperate for rim protection, and BB clearly provides that.

I don't think we're interested in trading him at all. I don't think we're any less desperate for rim protection than you guys are. Biz was statistically the top rim protector in terms of opposing FG% in the NBA.