Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

[Profound23]

Have to laugh at the 1st round pick the Bucks will "have to give up". First, this wasn't tampering since permission was granted. Second, if anything did happen that could be considered tampering no way Silver fines us more than Phil Jackson's $25k or it will appear as though he is showing favoritism.

[BuckFan25226]

Nets fans have bigger issues to worry about than whether Kidd stays or goes. The team is loaded with overpaid, washed up vets and their all in approach this year flopped big time. Regardless of how much power they would have given him, he wanted out when he heard they were considering firing him during their slow start.


I'm ok with Kidd as coach. With the exception of the slow start, I thought he did very well considering the hand he was dealt. I wasn't in favor of this initially, but I am going to give these guys the benefit of the doubt.

[Profound23]

I am completely fine with Kidd as our coach, didn't have an opinion about the other positions because I was in wait and see mode.

[stillgotgame]

If Kidd takes Giannis and Inglis to PG school, it's an interesting idea. Hopefully the latter's handles get tight enough to run PnR.

Should be good for Wolters, too.

Kidd used Kirilenko well, too. And wasn't afraid to go small.

And Kidd isn't Drew. So... cautious optimism?

Kidd did a great job with Deron Willams too.

14/6/3 all career lows.

[JayMKE]

lol Nets fans are a woman scorned, crazy ex that can't move on

[Chuck Diesel]

Just a reminder- on May 29th Paul Henning reported that he was informed (presumably by one of the owners or Alex Lasry) Drew would be gone.

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Two Sources in the media informed me by basic deduction that Hammond & Drew's absence from the intro party at McGillicuddy's meant they had no future with the owners.


Lasry & Edens never said anything to me that Drew/Hammond were goners.

Oh OK. I appreciate your honesty.

[LittleRooster]

I haven't been on here all day so forgive me here. But from what I understand they just want Kidd as coach, it would cost is a 2nd but the nets want a 1, and Hammond and Babcock are staying??

[Ill-yasova]

On one hand, if I were Lasry and Edens, I would walk away from this mess right now. Say they explored hiring Kidd as coach but couldn't agree on compensation

On the other hand, they likely are exposed for a tampering charge. Even if the Bucks don't hire Kidd, the Nets are damaged. They still owe Kidd almost $8 million remaining on his contract and Kidd is highly damaged property that likely can't return as coach anymore. So if you are worried on that angle, the Bucks have to make a deal with Kidd that gets the Nets satisfied and absolves the Bucks of further liability.

Unless some major thing happens, I think we will end up sending two seconds and a ton of cash to the Nets by tomorrow to hire our new super powerful George Karl like coach in Jason Kidd. Who the flunky is that is hired as GM next is anyone's guess. Hammond might stay in that role.

This seems a little overboard to me. Five hours ago we were panicking about Kidd as the PoBO and that turned out to be nothing. Let's not overreact here until we get a better idea of the whole story.

[InsideOut]

Disagree

Parker wanted to be here. He could've just said I want to go to Cle or wanted to go to Philly.

Kidd having the relationship with Lasry is exactly why they are able to convince him to come here.

It's because of the new owners we have this fresh energy already.

I would love for you to be right, and there is a bit of a buzz around the Bucks right now.

But I think the two examples are exceptions to the rule. Do you think the Bucks now have a chance of luring big name free agents here? James? Anthony? Wade? Bosh? Any chance at all? What about next year (Kevin Love?) or in the future? Is there any chance at all a top-flight free agent chooses to come here because they like our owners?

Landing a top FA now? No.


In order to lure those big FA's:
You have to have a good track record, new facilities (New stadium), and good ownership. These guys I believe will have that and time will tell.


Parker WANTS to be here.

Kidd WANTS to come here.

You start putting people in good spots and you start to see the rest coming...


This isn't coincidental.


*Edit: Just because you can land a TOP TIER FA doesn't really mean anything, nor does it guarantee a Championship.

I heard Parker say he wanted to be here because he is from Chicago. This was all common knowledge before the draft. He knew it was Cleveland or Milwaukee and he wanted the one that was closer. He doesn't want to be in Milwaukee he wants to be near Chicago. Kind of the same for Kidd. He wants out of his current job and knows our new owner.

It's nice they aren't trashing Milwaukee but I'll feel better when there aren't ulterior motives. As was mentioned, it might be a start but it is meaningless unless it attracts a great FA or helps us keep our own great players once we have them.

[BuckFan25226]

If Kidd takes Giannis and Inglis to PG school, it's an interesting idea. Hopefully the latter's handles get tight enough to run PnR.

Should be good for Wolters, too.

Kidd used Kirilenko well, too. And wasn't afraid to go small.

And Kidd isn't Drew. So... cautious optimism?

Kidd did a great job with Deron Willams too.

14/6/3 all career lows.

So you expect Kidd to waive his magical point guard dust and make a 30 year old Deron Williams, who has been injured, fat, lazy, and on the decline since 2010 to suddenly regain All Star form??

[Wooderson]

Tampering still could have occurred even with the meeting taking place after being granted permission.

Kidd/Lasry could have been talking and Kidd expressed his frustration in BKN. Lasry then comments saying we'd love to have you here if you become available.

Kidd then knows he has a fallback option and goes to Prok with his demands and either a) they agree and his situation there improves or b) they let him go and Kidd gets to go to the Bucks. Then after that occurs Kidd knows he has to ask for permission and make it seem like he and Lasry have never spoken about the matter. Then they have the meeting which is really more of a formality.

I'm not saying that's how it went down, but the meeting taking place after Kidd was granted permission doesn't really show anything. Either way I very much doubt they'd be able to prove it so the point is probably moot.

[SkilesTheLimit]

Kidd was on the 2008 USA Olympic team with LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Chris Paul, Melo, etc.

Kidd and Jabari have the Coach K connection going.

How good of a recruiter could Kidd be for FA's when the time comes?

[LUKE23]

He said he wanted to be somewhere where he was wanted. He said he got the vibe from us but not Cleveland in that regard. We had Jabari #1 on our board after Embiid went down and the Cavs did not. Obviously, the proximity to Chicago is a mega bonus, but there is no ulterior motives at all.

[paulpressey25]

If we want to go with the timeline that there was no tampering that's fine.

But then it calls into question why Kidd had his outburst demanding more power. And who and why leaked the story out. I suppose we could take at face value that Kidd blew up at the Nets and then asked to talk with the Bucks. But it would have been stupid of Kidd blow up at the Nets unless he knew he had an ace up his sleeve with Miwaukee.

Therefore my belief is that Kidd is either a stupid and/or volatile personality or we tampered. Neither one bodes well for the Bucks at the moment.....

I'm willing to entertain other theories.

[Thunder Muscle]

Sam Amick tweeted Bucks/Nets not at all close to an agreement for Kidd.

[glenn]

Tampering still could have occurred even with the meeting taking place after being granted permission.

Kidd/Lasry could have been talking and Kidd expressed his frustration in BKN. Lasry then comments saying we'd love to have you here if you become available.

Kidd then knows he has a fallback option and goes to Prok with his demands and either a) they agree and his situation there improves or b) they let him go and Kidd gets to go to the Bucks. Then after that occurs Kidd knows he has to ask for permission and make it seem like he and Lasry have never spoken about the matter. Then they have the meeting which is really more of a formality.

I'm not saying that's how it went down, but the meeting taking place after Kidd was granted permission doesn't really show anything. Either way I very much doubt they'd be able to prove it so the point is probably moot.

The meeting taking place after Kidd was granted permission to have a meeting shows everything. Just because Kidd decides to pull a power play doesn't mean the Bucks didn't have permission to talk about his possible role. Maybe I'm missing something in your comment.

[machu46]

If the ESPN article about us saying it's a 2nd round pick or no deal, Brooklyn clearly isn't interested in simply letting us have him.

Sam Amick ‏@sam_amick 1m

The Brooklyn Nets & Milwaukee Bucks are not at all close to an agreement in discussions about Jason Kidd, I'm told.

[LUKE23]

I wouldn't even do a 2nd for him, so that's fine by me. Nets aren't getting a first.

[machu46]

Tampering still could have occurred even with the meeting taking place after being granted permission.

Kidd/Lasry could have been talking and Kidd expressed his frustration in BKN. Lasry then comments saying we'd love to have you here if you become available.

Kidd then knows he has a fallback option and goes to Prok with his demands and either a) they agree and his situation there improves or b) they let him go and Kidd gets to go to the Bucks. Then after that occurs Kidd knows he has to ask for permission and make it seem like he and Lasry have never spoken about the matter. Then they have the meeting which is really more of a formality.

I'm not saying that's how it went down, but the meeting taking place after Kidd was granted permission doesn't really show anything. Either way I very much doubt they'd be able to prove it so the point is probably moot.

The meeting taking place after Kidd was granted permission to have a meeting shows everything. Just because Kidd decides to pull a power play doesn't mean the Bucks didn't have permission to talk about his possible role. Maybe I'm missing something in your comment.

Basically, he's saying it's possible we met with him twice. Once before he had permission, and then once afterwards.

[CanadaBucks]

lol Nets fans are a woman scorned, crazy ex that can't move on

Ya i went to Nets Daily and was laughing at them. They kept telling me how they were a desireable destination for Top Tier FAs.