Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

trwi7 · Post #1281 » by **trwi7** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:10 am

Aaron It Out wrote:Am I correct that nothing has transpired in the past 20 pages?

We tampered a couple times, then we didn't.

CanadaBucks · Post #1282 » by **CanadaBucks** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:16 am

trwi7 wrote:
Sycamore93 wrote:Just listened to Andy Katz on ESPN, he's reporting the negotiations are now being handled by John Hammond and Nets gm Billy King.

Oh to be a fly on the penny.

They're both bad GMs right? King gave Crash Wallace 4/40 on the first day of free agency

Ayt · Post #1283 » by **Ayt** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:16 am

trwi7 wrote:
Aaron It Out wrote:Am I correct that nothing has transpired in the past 20 pages?

We tampered a couple times, then we didn't.

Kidd was going to be our new POBO and that was awful because he has no experience and isn't qualified, but now he is instead going to be our coach but still also be our POBO (but not officially have the title) and that is awful because no one will want to work for us in our front office and he still has no experience and isn't qualified.

SupremeHustle · Post #1284 » by **SupremeHustle** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:16 am

trwi7 wrote:
Aaron It Out wrote:Am I correct that nothing has transpired in the past 20 pages?

We tampered a couple times, then we didn't.

Your sig is hilarious. Shout out to Stell.

VooDoo7 · Post #1285 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:17 am

LUKE23 wrote: Did the players even like the guy in Brooklyn?

I don't think his own mom liked him, ever.

FlagsFlyForever · Post #1286 » by **FlagsFlyForever** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:17 am

Aaron It Out wrote:Am I correct that nothing has transpired in the past 20 pages?

The best part of the last 20 pages was Wooderson's joke:

Wooderson wrote:At least if we trade a 2nd rounder we know Hammond is no longer in charge.

Post #1287 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:17 am

Ayt wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
MrPerfect1 wrote:It is definitely amusing how Jilted the Nets are coming across. They almost sound like a scorned lover who can't believe they would be left for MIL. It isn't a coincidence that almost all info being leaked is coming from their side.

They are in for a Rude awakening if they think they can just hold out on negotiations until we give them a 1st.

Eh, I don't get that at all.

Let's be honest. If they had given Kidd the kind of control he wanted, he would be in New Jersey. I think the Bucks are a better situation given the age of their roster and our future assets, but Milwaukee is a fallback option for Kidd.

Why make the assumption that Kidd wanted large amounts of control?

That's what he reportedly asked for in Brooklyn.

JEIS · Post #1288 » by **JEIS** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:19 am

[MIKE C] wrote:
Sycamore93 wrote:Just listened to Andy Katz on ESPN, he's reporting the negotiations are now being handled by John Hammond and Nets gm Billy King.

Great. Hammond is going to give them a 1st round pick and OJ Mayo, and then congratulate himself for unloading Mayo.

At least we would finally get Joe Johnson.

Ayt · Post #1289 » by **Ayt** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:20 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
Ayt wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Eh, I don't get that at all.

Let's be honest. If they had given Kidd the kind of control he wanted, he would be in New Jersey. I think the Bucks are a better situation given the age of their roster and our future assets, but Milwaukee is a fallback option for Kidd.

Why make the assumption that Kidd wanted large amounts of control?

That's what he reportedly asked for in Brooklyn.

It was what was self-servingly leaked to the NY press.

paul · Post #1290 » by **paul** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:21 am

Late to the party, but any publicity is good publicity right? Right?

kid idioteque · Post #1291 » by **kid idioteque** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:21 am

At first I was like...

Then I was like...

Now, for entertainment value alone, I'm like...

midranger · Post #1292 » by **midranger** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:22 am

This is a terrible idea.

AussieBuck · Post #1293 » by **AussieBuck** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:23 am

It'll start with us Hammonds wanting to give up a 2nd and King wanting a 1st, King will agree to the second as long as we give them Mayo, Zaza and Michael Redd. Hammonds counters by adding our 1st to get Joe Johnson in the deal. It's a high stakes mind game between a couple of old masters.

CanadaBucks · Post #1294 » by **CanadaBucks** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:26 am

AussieBuck wrote:It'll start with us Hammonds wanting to give up a 2nd and King wanting a 1st, King will agree to the second as long as we give them Mayo, Zaza and Michael Redd. Hammonds counters by adding our 1st to get Joe Johnson in the deal. It's a high stakes mind game between a couple of old masters.

That post makes up for the tie-breaker you cast in Ersan's favour :lol:

Ayt · Post #1295 » by **Ayt** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:28 am

AussieBuck wrote:It'll start with us Hammonds wanting to give up a 2nd and King wanting a 1st, King will agree to the second as long as we give them Mayo, Zaza and Michael Redd. Hammonds counters by adding our 1st to get Joe Johnson in the deal. It's a high stakes mind game between a couple of old masters.

It all hinges on Pierce accepting a 5 year max extension with the Bucks as part of a sign and trade that locks him up through his prime years (37-42).

Post #1296 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:29 am

Ayt wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Ayt wrote:
Why make the assumption that Kidd wanted large amounts of control?

That's what he reportedly asked for in Brooklyn.

It was what was self-servingly leaked to the NY press.

So he didn't ask for more control, it was just a raise? Okay, I guess I don't really care either way.

RRyder823 · Post #1297 » by **RRyder823** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:30 am

AussieBuck wrote:It'll start with us Hammonds wanting to give up a 2nd and King wanting a 1st, King will agree to the second as long as we give them Mayo, Zaza and Michael Redd. Hammonds counters by adding our 1st to get Joe Johnson in the deal. It's a high stakes mind game between a couple of old masters.

Well played good Sir...... Well played

Paradise · Post #1298 » by **Paradise** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:34 am

bigdog34 wrote:Without watching too much Nets games, what can we expect with his coaching style? Pros/cons?

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Pros:
Small-ball motion offense. Best comparison: current Atlanta Hawks offense philosophy.

He might throw the ball into Parker in the post and put shooters around him instead of the Carmelo comparison.

Defensively, he preaches switching and trapping. Best comparison: Memphis Grizzlies defense philosophy.

The Nets were 2nd in points off turnovers behind Miami and 4th in steals per game.

I would expect him to use a lineup of Wolters, Knight, Giannis, Parker, Sanders.

The Cons:

-He doesn't preach rebounding.
-His minutes distribution is troubling. His rotations can be puzzling at times.

-He is a believer in "vets" Jason Terry was his guilty pleasure and Terry was horrible. Kidd still kept using him until he was finally traded. He began to do the samething with Alan Anderson.

-Relys too much on iso hero ball when the game is on the line. I expect him to give alot of Isolation plays for Parker at end of game situations.

Zeezprah · Post #1299 » by **Zeezprah** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:37 am

Paradise wrote:I would expect him to use a lineup of Wolters, Knight, Giannis, Parker, Sanders.

that'd be fantastic.

Frank Nova · Post #1300 » by **Frank Nova** » Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:39 am

Paradise wrote:
bigdog34 wrote:Without watching too much Nets games, what can we expect with his coaching style? Pros/cons?

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Pros:
Small-ball motion offense. Best comparison: current Atlanta Hawks offense philosophy.

He might throw the ball into Parker in the post and put shooters around him instead of the Carmelo comparison.

Defensively, he preaches switching and trapping. Best comparison: Memphis Grizzlies defense philosophy.

The Nets were 2nd in points off turnovers behind Miami and 4th in steals per game.

I would expect him to use a lineup of Wolters, Knight, Giannis, Parker, Sanders.

The Cons:

-He doesn't preach rebounding.
-His minutes distribution is troubling. His rotations can be puzzling at times.

-He is a believer in "vets" Jason Terry was his guilty pleasure and Terry was horrible. Kidd still kept using him until he was finally traded. He began to do the samething with Alan Anderson.

-Relys too much on iso hero ball when the game is on the line. I expect him to give alot of Isolation plays for Parker at end of game situations.

Any news out of BKN, is this a done deal?

Do you want the Bucks to hire Jason Kidd as POBO?