Optimism for Embiid's Health

[76ciology]

I feel like you're only looking for the information that supports what you wanna hear, and that's a dangerous way to think.

Sometimes it isn't about a chronic injury with big men, but about just being injury prone in general. This is what happened with Bogut. If it wasn't his hideous arm injury, it was his back. If it wasn't his back, it was his foot. If it wasn't his foot it was his ankle. That's what I fear with Embiid, not a degenerative condition. The good thing is, I don't think he'll be taken out of the game like Oden and Bowie was. Hopefully you're right and these are just freak injuries but that doesn't translate to healthy career.

If you based your sentiments based on facts, you'd take your chance on Embiid. If you based your sentiments based on speculations, you'd be scared of him.

It's not chronic. It's not degenerative. Like you said, It's likely he won't be Oden or Bowie. And I'm fine with that.

With regards to Bogut's injury, he is a product of freak injuries and not him being injury prone.

"The most frustrating thing is people on the outside looking in and saying, 'Oh, he's injury-prone,' " Bogut said. "That's a stigma I have and one I'll deal with. I guess I need to go see a witch doctor, or something."

"Anyone can go on Google, research my past two injuries and realize that they're not chronic," Bogut said. "I do the right things in the offseason. These are just freak occurrences. These aren't issues of being overweight or being out of condition."

[76ciology]

Cavs GM David Griffin said immediately after the draft that there were no substantive offers for the #1 pick.

Woj, the NBA reporter with the most credibility said the Sixers never made a substantive offer for the #1 pick.

Hinkie is widely known to be an analytics guy, and almost all of his picks have had great analytics numbers (e.g. Reb/40, Stl/40, Ast/40, Blk/40, A/TO, etc.), while Wiggins had mediocre at best analytics numbers. Embiid on the other hand had great analytics numbers.

Hinkie described the Embiid injury as "I smelled opportunity".

It seems pretty clear the Sixers were never all that interested in Wiggins. All the reports beforehand were a desperate attempt by Cleveland to drum up a trade market, which ended up being non-existent.

This.

[SixerFever215]

76ers never offered the 10th pick, Dei Lynam reported we offered 3-10-32 that was 100 % false all the reports saying Philly was desperate for Wiggins were false. Yes Wiggins was #1 on there board, but when the got Embiid medical records they absouletly were comfortable drafting Embiid.

Boy, you guys sure throw it out there as a fact. We dont know if they were or not, but if they were, they sure as hell would deny it after the fact

Cavs GM denied it lol believe what u want

[76thBearCub]

Lol at the "ball boy" remarks. Your not very smart unless you've spent thousands upon thousands of hours on this online message board.

[joefrizzle]

76ers never offered the 10th pick, Dei Lynam reported we offered 3-10-32 that was 100 % false all the reports saying Philly was desperate for Wiggins were false. Yes Wiggins was #1 on there board, but when the got Embiid medical records they absouletly were comfortable drafting Embiid.

Boy, you guys sure throw it out there as a fact. We dont know if they were or not, but if they were, they sure as hell would deny it after the fact

Cavs GM denied it lol believe what u want

And you have no clue why he would deny it, even if they were entertaining offers?

[SixerFever215]

Boy, you guys sure throw it out there as a fact. We dont know if they were or not, but if they were, they sure as hell would deny it after the fact

Cavs GM denied it lol believe what u want

And you have no clue why he would deny it, even if they were entertaining offers?

There were a couple diffrent bigtime NBA writers who said it wasn't true. No doubt the 76ers reached out but all the reports saying the 76ers were willing to do anything to get Wiggins was False.

[racestud]

What about lopez, he is neither heavy or overworked like ming, but yet he keeps re-breaking his foot

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[76ciology]

Cavs GM denied it lol believe what u want

And you have no clue why he would deny it, even if they were entertaining offers?

There were a couple diffrent bigtime NBA writers who said it wasn't true. No doubt the 76ers reached out but all the reports saying the 76ers were willing to do anything to get Wiggins was False.

Woj, david griffin and hinkie. How much better credibility is dei lynam's and some other writers compared to them?

[joefrizzle]

Cavs GM denied it lol believe what u want

And you have no clue why he would deny it, even if they were entertaining offers?

There were a couple diffrent bigtime NBA writers who said it wasn't true. No doubt the 76ers reached out but all the reports saying the 76ers were willing to do anything to get Wiggins was False.

Ok, thats cool. As long as you can see the possibility that there were discussions.

[MRxBLACK]

What about lopez, he is neither heavy or overworked like ming, but yet he keeps re-breaking his foot

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Could be a lot of different things. Try google-ing risk factors for foot fractures.

[76ciology]

What about lopez, he is neither heavy or overworked like ming, but yet he keeps re-breaking his foot

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Could be a lot of different things. Try google-ing risk factors for foot fractures.

Ok. I could be wrong on this but Embiid having to have just two screws inserted means that his foot injury is not that major. Specially compared to Brook lopez.

The difference. Brook has a heavier load. Brook was older. Brook's injury was worse. Brook didn't have the patience of the sixers where they'll take more than the extra steps to ensure brook is more than fully recovered.

[76ciology]

If I have to make a guess right now. The problem with Embiid is he lack proper nutrition and proper strengthening exercise. It's well documented that Embiid has a sweet tooth, notorious for munching on cookies and drinking lemonandes. Even Jabari brought him some oreos during his visit LoL. Then during his trainings, they were focused on improving his raw skillset. Strengthening him to make him more durable is more of an afterthought. Because he was lagging on the skills department with just 3 years of experience. Thus, you can see how advanced his skillset is because his trainings are more of skillset focused. I also think he might just be overworked with mastering all three sports. He could have made their national football team fwiw.

This is just my guess so take it with a grain of salt.

[James40]

And you have no clue why he would deny it, even if they were entertaining offers?

There were a couple diffrent bigtime NBA writers who said it wasn't true. No doubt the 76ers reached out but all the reports saying the 76ers were willing to do anything to get Wiggins was False.

Ok, thats cool. As long as you can see the possibility that there were discussions.

How would going after Wiggins fit with what the Sixers are doing? Wiggins fate was sealed with the Sixers when Embiid broke his foot, another year with a good draft pick with Embiid rehabbing for most of the year.

[PhilasFinest]

Lopez played in all 82 games of his first 3 seasons.

Then in 11-12 He broke his R foot, missed 32 games and then returned....he then sprained his R ankle a few games after returning and the Nets chose to shut him down for the rest of the 66 game season because they were awful...if they were better he may have logged a few more games.

in 12-13 He sprained his ankle again, but only missed about 7-8 games....played in 74 games that season, made the all-star team and played in all 7 of there playoff games.

in 13-14 he played in 17 games, then broke his R foot again, missing the season....he had injured his fifth metatarsal bone, but in that summer he had to undergo a surgery to remove a screw that bent from his previous surgery.

So Lopez has sprained his R ankle twice and broke the same foot twice in his 6 year career...

so in 6 years, he's logged:
82 82 82 5* 74 17

* Lock-out season (66 games) potentially could have played 15-20 games had Nets been better.

Trends certainly trending downward since his injury, but its not like Lopez is Greg Oden.


Hopefully we get Embiid on a very good nutrition plan, and have him work with physical therapists and trainers a ton to strength his core and lower body to hopefully prevent further injuries.

[James40]

To be fair to Greg Oden, he was basically the end of the microfracture surgery as we know it. Dude had two on one knee, and one on the other. At the time it may have the best alternative, but with a 40% recovery rate, that surgery on pro athletes is about done.

[76erfanHI]

I have no expectations regarding his health, I'd be surprised if he plays more than 30 games a season.

[Sixteen]

How good is he supposed to be? if healthy, is he a projected future superstar?

[Aussiepiston1]

Basketball is a Team sport and if Embiid eventually becomes the player Tim Duncan was this past year at age 38 I'd be one stoked MOFO.... Duncan averaged 15 and 10 in 29min not to mention 2 blocks a game and the fact We have Noel who should easily put up better numbers than Splitter did this past year and Saric looking like a Kukoc/Diaw type player, MCW winning rookie of the year and 2 young potential 3 and D type players in Kj and Jerami, our future is bright with the old Spurs assistant Brett Brown at the Helm. I'm psyched with this Teams potential and even if all these players don't become superstars and I actually think a couple of them do, as long as they play a team game we are on our way to few championships in the next 3-4 years. Go Sixers

[MountainDrew]

How good is he supposed to be? if healthy, is he a projected future superstar?

Depends on how you define superstar, but he is definitely capable of becoming a franchise centerpiece, a level above what MCW and Nerlens project to become. He's absolutely worth the wait.

[joefrizzle]

There were a couple diffrent bigtime NBA writers who said it wasn't true. No doubt the 76ers reached out but all the reports saying the 76ers were willing to do anything to get Wiggins was False.

Ok, thats cool. As long as you can see the possibility that there were discussions.

How would going after Wiggins fit with what the Sixers are doing? Wiggins fate was sealed with the Sixers when Embiid broke his foot, another year with a good draft pick with Embiid rehabbing for most of the year.

If you think Hinkie has no worries what so ever about Embiids back and foot, then you're crazy. I seriously doubt he wasnt trying like hell to avoid that risk. But when the smoke cleared, he couldnt work anything out to move up, and in his his eyes, there was just too much potential with Embiid to take Exum over him.