Should the Bucks hire Jason Kidd (as coach pg 43)?

[Ayt]

What ESBF is talking about:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/HeySpeedy/status/483590772005277697[/tweet]

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@brewcitypaul just curious if you know who BP on RealGM is, I know who he is and that his source won't be able to provide much anymore

Well hold on now all you Debbie Downers. Josh Hayes said BP's source won't be able to provide "much", not "won't be able to provide anything at all." The well might not be completely dry. Maybe BP's source is just in a different role, has a different level of access, or maybe information isn't shared as freely anymore. But maybe BP will still be able to come up with a nugget every once in a while. I'm still clinging to hope. And I agree with those that said even if BP doesn't have inside info, they hope he continues to post here and share his opinions.

Isn't is also possible this Josh Hayes guy doesn't know what he's talking about?

[steger_3434]

RS- if you were rich enough and bought the bucks you'd just sit back and sign checks? For **** sake if you were owner we'd have embiid.

[[MIKE C]]

After sleeping on this I am still not bothered by how the owners have handled the Kidd thing. If they meddle after they have a POBO in place to the point of not letting him do his job the way he wants then I'll be upset. But they don't have the POBO in place yet. They are taking their time with that decision, which is fine, because that is the important one. In the meantime there is still business to conduct. The opportunity came up with Kidd for whatever reason so they jumped on it. If you hate Kidd, fine. But I see no reason to jump down Lasry and Eden's throats this early in there tenure over this. A guy they like and have a connection to became available so they made a move to go get him. Good for them.

[stevescheffler06]

I could care less if they are "meddlers"......if they don't suck at it. Setting that piece aside, let's look at the merits of having Jason Kidd be the defacto boss of all things basketball for the Bucks. That is a terrifying thought to me. I could try to get on board with him as a coach, but he's proven absolutely nothing yet to show he deserves to run a team. Actually, the only evidence I see in his one year would be towards him NOT getting this type of gig.

[raferfenix]

So where is the Bucks' PR shop in all this?

Even if you are for the move wow did our people (Lasry / Edens included) drop the ball here.

Something tells me Kidd won't be getting any Jabari-esque standing ovations any time soon to say the least.

[[MIKE C]]

What ESBF is talking about:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/HeySpeedy/status/483590772005277697[/tweet]

Well hold on now all you Debbie Downers. Josh Hayes said BP's source won't be able to provide "much", not "won't be able to provide anything at all." The well might not be completely dry. Maybe BP's source is just in a different role, has a different level of access, or maybe information isn't shared as freely anymore. But maybe BP will still be able to come up with a nugget every once in a while. I'm still clinging to hope. And I agree with those that said even if BP doesn't have inside info, they hope he continues to post here and share his opinions.

Isn't is also possible this Josh Hayes guy doesn't know what he's talking about?

LOL. Yes. That is the most likely scenario in all of this.

[EastSideBucksFan]

Isn't is also possible this Josh Hayes guy doesn't know what he's talking about?

Too random for someone to just be making it up and his tweet is backed up by zero posts by BuckPack in this whole Kidd story. If BP comes back with info, then it's different. But, I don't think you can post that much information online (especially with attention RealGM got breaking Kidd story) and have someone want to continue feeding into it. Eventually it was always going to stop at some point.

[MadBlueEdwards]

Semi-OT...Have they announced who the CFO is that they hired? Haven't seen any news on that.

[Craig_Hodges]

Kidd is PPGZ and swag? I have no idea what either of those things mean apparently. Kidd was the exact opposite of that as a player.

My point is that he's a celebrity high profile figure the casual fan knows well. Whether he is the guy you want to give the car keys to as the focal point of your franchise is another matter.

Exactly...this is all about the casual fan and moving the needle on new arena public opinion. They're willing to take the risk on the other stuff.

[glenn]

So where is the Bucks' PR shop in all this?

Even if you are for the move wow did our people (Lasry / Edens included) drop the ball here.

Something tells me Kidd won't be getting any Jabari-esque standing ovations any time soon to say the least.

Regardless of everything else, this should teach the owners a lesson on how to get ahead of the spin.

[Zeezprah]

i honestly don't see a problem with meddling owners at all. i would meddle too if i bought an nba team. the key is not overdoing it and micromanaging every transaction, and there's been no evidence of that. i always thought they were entitled to choosing who they wanted in the draft. what's the point of smoke screening and all that other bs if they 100% wanted to make the pick and be guaranteed of their guy? there is none.

[raferfenix]

Hey Eastside, are any national media outlets contacting you yet?

Once a decision is ultimately made we need someone to make our franchise -- hell our city -- not look awful.

I don't know if Bucks' PR can do that on their own in this instance.

[ReasonablySober]

RS- if you were rich enough and bought the bucks you'd just sit back and sign checks? For **** sake if you were owner we'd have embiid.

I'd hire the smartest person I know to run the team and give them the resources ($$$) they need to get the job done.

[[MIKE C]]

Isn't is also possible this Josh Hayes guy doesn't know what he's talking about?

Too random for someone to just be making it up and his tweet is backed up by zero posts by BuckPack in this whole Kidd story. If BP comes back with info, then it's different. But, I don't think you can post that much information online (especially with attention RealGM got breaking Kidd story) and have someone want to continue feeding into it. Eventually it was always going to stop at some point.

Who is Josh Hayes. Is he someone you know? Is he a media guy? He could just be a poster or lurker here who is making an assumption. Although I agree that his timing along with BP's silence does give it some credence.

[paulpressey25]

Exactly...this is all about the casual fan and moving the needle on new arena public opinion. They're willing to take the risk on the other stuff.

I actually think it goes well beyond that. My guess is that over the past couple years Lasry and Kidd have had numerous discussions about how to run an NBA team and Lasry has been eating up the answers Kidd has been providing. Given that Lasry was part owner of the Nets, probably most of Kidd's comments were against King and the Russians and were proven true over time, so Lasry has even more confidence in Kidd.

I'm now going where the puck is headed. Wasn't Kidd likely the guy a month or two ago? Now it makes total sense why they didn't immediately can Hammond and Drew. Lasry and Kidd had this friendship and Kidd was the guy all the time.

[EastSideBucksFan]

Hammond and Drew were essentially assured publicly they would be here thru the draft and then after that there were no guarantees. We don't know what was said between ownership & Hammond/Drew regarding their future beyond that. When new owners take over a franchise, it's common to bring in their own people. This obviously could've been handled much cleaner, but once Nets got wind of what was going down, they went public and NY media was allowed the first crack to set the table of the story. Like it's been said, Kidd is no angel and has people looking to grind him whenever they get the opportunity.


If Kidd is committed to building this offense around Giannis & Jabari and supporting a full rebuild thru the original 3-5 year timeline that Lasry & Edens has set down, then I will give them the opportunity to do so.

This is a definite swing for the fences type of move that is high risk / high reward.

[Ayt]

Isn't is also possible this Josh Hayes guy doesn't know what he's talking about?

Too random for someone to just be making it up and his tweet is backed up by zero posts by BuckPack in this whole Kidd story. If BP comes back with info, then it's different. But, I don't think you can post that much information online (especially with attention RealGM got breaking Kidd story) and have someone want to continue feeding into it. Eventually it was always going to stop at some point.

Who is Josh Hayes. Is he someone you know? Is he a media guy? He could just be a poster or lurker here who is making an assumption. Although I agree that his timing along with BP's silence does give it some credence.

It has been less than 24 hours since this story broke. It isn't like BP has instantly been here with nuggets of info immediately after anything happens with this team.

[BobbyLight]

Kidd is PPGZ and swag? I have no idea what either of those things mean apparently. Kidd was the exact opposite of that as a player.

My point is that he's a celebrity high profile figure the casual fan knows well. Whether he is the guy you want to give the car keys to as the focal point of your franchise is another matter.

Exactly...this is all about the casual fan and moving the needle on new arena public opinion. They're willing to take the risk on the other stuff.

You're right, there is zero possibility this has anything to do with the fact they maybe think Kidd is the right coach for this team (which we can debate, but they clearly aren't).

They already appeared to have won the casual fan over with Parker, to suggest that's the main reason they are hiring Kidd isn't close to being true, imo.

[bigkurty]

RS- if you were rich enough and bought the bucks you'd just sit back and sign checks? For **** sake if you were owner we'd have embiid.

I'd hire the smartest person I know to run the team and give them the resources ($$$) they need to get the job done.

That's bull. If you had billions, you are probably the smartest person you know. Your opinion as an owner still counts. People want to keep saying it's meddling if an owner gets involved. That's not true at all. Just cause Kohl suck ed at owning doesn't mean these guys will.

[BobbyLight]

Because, let me tell you, nothing gets public support like a DUI having, wife beating, cup spilling douche bag getting hired.