2014 Free Agency Thread

[LofJ]

I we can find a way to dump Henderson for an expiring contract then I think we should be willing to offer Lance around 11 million a year. We'd be able to afford it, sign McRoberts and a backup point, and pay Kemba his big extention next offseason without going into the tax. And the season after that Al comes off the books so we'd be a-ok when it comes to salary cap flexibility.

[MasterIchiro]

I'm well aware of this contradiction. I already capitalized on it.

There's no contradiction unless you don't understand the definition of the word. Contradicting arguments would be me saying that I think Stephenson is worth well over $10 million but I wouldn't pay him such. My stance has been the same all year, that I wouldn't want to pay him over $8 million. It hasn't changed

You wouldn't pay your main target over 8 million when you have 20 million cap space. You are dreaming. Look up that definition. Dreaming.

[yosemiteben]

I think I'd be ok with $11M on Lance as an absolute cap. If you want to think rosy optimistic long term, a core of Kemba, Lance, MKG, Zeller/Vonleh and a high dollar free agent big to replace Al when he is put out to pasture (ADavis?) could be really solid.

[LofJ]

I'm well aware of this contradiction. I already capitalized on it.

There's no contradiction unless you don't understand the definition of the word. Contradicting arguments would be me saying that I think Stephenson is worth well over $10 million but I wouldn't pay him such. My stance has been the same all year, that I wouldn't want to pay him over $8 million. It hasn't changed

If that's your stance then Stephenson won't be a Hornet because the Pacers are more than willing to pay him that much. We'd really have to blow his socks off for him to want to take equal pay to leave the Pacers and come to Charlotte.

Edit: our main advantage over the Pacers is that we can afford to pay Stephenson more than they can without jeopardizing our future. If we don't use that advantage we have no shot at landing him.

[LamarMatic7]

I we can find a way to dump Henderson for an expiring contract..

hard to see this happening considering the fact that GMs rarely give up anything for expirings these days (Afflalo just got traded for basically two second rounders in Fournier and the 55th pick) and that we would have to give up a pick alongside Hendo for someone to take him off our hands while in the meantime sending over an expiring.

[jakenc]

Let's just give Lebron the max and call it a day. //green

[LofJ]

I we can find a way to dump Henderson for an expiring contract..

hard to see this happening considering the fact that GMs rarely give up anything for expirings these days (Afflalo just got traded for basically two second rounders in Fournier and the 55th pick) and that we would have to give up a pick alongside Hendo for someone to take him off our hands while in the meantime sending over an expiring.

We have more than enough youth right now, if Lance was ready to sign I wouldn't hesitate to attach our 1st for next year in order to dump Henderson.

[mrknowitall215]

You wouldn't pay your main target over 8 million when you have 20 million cap space. You are dreaming. Look up that definition. Dreaming.

Correct. I wouldn't pay Stephenson over the $8 million range annually, but if enough desperation set in I would be willing to bend up to $10 million max

Just because Stephenson is my main target in this year's free agency doesn't mean that I think he's ideal or willing to do anything to acquire him. That just mean that there aren't many options in this year's free agency worth the bite

Hypothetically speaking, Anthony Morrow could've unfortunately been the best shooting guard free agent prospect available via free agency this year, and I wouldn't have went over $4 million annually for him

As far as the word 'contradiction'. I wasn't aware and never will be aware that it's contradicting to insinuate on the pros AND cons of a player

[UNCNYC]

I would not offer Lance anymore than 8.5 mill per, especially since we havent even seen what PJ can do in the NBA.

[mrknowitall215]

I'm well aware of this contradiction. I already capitalized on it.

There's no contradiction unless you don't understand the definition of the word. Contradicting arguments would be me saying that I think Stephenson is worth well over $10 million but I wouldn't pay him such. My stance has been the same all year, that I wouldn't want to pay him over $8 million. It hasn't changed

If that's your stance then Stephenson won't be a Hornet because the Pacers are more than willing to pay him that much. We'd really have to blow his socks off for him to want to take equal pay to leave the Pacers and come to Charlotte.

Edit: our main advantage over the Pacers is that we can afford to pay Stephenson more than they can without jeopardizing our future. If we don't use that advantage we have no shot at landing him.

I'd be shocked if the Pacers were willing to pay Lance Stephenson $11 million annually considering the keen to the questionable eye contracts they currently have in Hibbert's $14 million, West's $12 million, and Hill's $8 million. That's laughable to think that the majority thought we overpaid for Jefferson at $13.5 million when looking at those contracts in plain view

I think the Pacers are just calling bluff

[ARHornet]

Just because Stephenson is my main target in this year's free agency doesn't mean that I think he's ideal or willing to do anything to acquire him. That just mean that there aren't many options in this year's free agency worth the bite

Exactly. Stephenson is a good player and I'd be willing to pay him in that 8-10M range, but just because he's our best option doesn't mean he's ideal. Hayward and Parsons are the next best thing, and both of them are question marks as RFAs. Beyond that, there are not many starting level options, especially at SG.

[LofJ]

There's no contradiction unless you don't understand the definition of the word. Contradicting arguments would be me saying that I think Stephenson is worth well over $10 million but I wouldn't pay him such. My stance has been the same all year, that I wouldn't want to pay him over $8 million. It hasn't changed

If that's your stance then Stephenson won't be a Hornet because the Pacers are more than willing to pay him that much. We'd really have to blow his socks off for him to want to take equal pay to leave the Pacers and come to Charlotte.

Edit: our main advantage over the Pacers is that we can afford to pay Stephenson more than they can without jeopardizing our future. If we don't use that advantage we have no shot at landing him.

I'd be shocked if the Pacers were willing to pay Lance Stephenson $11 million annually considering the keen to the questionable eye contracts they currently have in Hibbert's $14 million, West's $12 million, and Hill's $8 million. That's laughable to think that the majority thought we overpaid for Jefferson at $13.5 million when looking at those contracts in plain view

I think the Pacers are just calling bluff

I agree, HIbbert, George, Hill, and West's combined salaries are about $50.5 million, you add an additional 10 million to that for Lance's salary and you're almost at the cap. That leaves almost nothing to fill out the rest of their roster.

[MasterIchiro]

I think I'd be ok with $11M on Lance as an absolute cap. If you want to think rosy optimistic long term, a core of Kemba, Lance, MKG, Zeller/Vonleh and a high dollar free agent big to replace Al when he is put out to pasture (ADavis?) could be really solid.

We'd be incredibly fun to watch and a perennial contender if things go right.

[Liver_Pooty]

Magic have just waived Jameer Nelson. I think there is a really good chance he comes to Charlotte to backup Walker.

[MasterIchiro]

Magic have just waived Jameer Nelson. I think there is a really good chance he comes to Charlotte to backup Walker.

I'm updating my roster as we speak. When positioned to draft Napier, they already likely knew this was coming. And when they negotiated for Afflalo, they also likely knew he would opt out at the end of the year.

[mrknowitall215]

Magic have just waived Jameer Nelson. I think there is a really good chance he comes to Charlotte to backup Walker.

I hope Cho consider other options before just slamming the gavel on Jameer Nelson because Clifford is familiar and in favor of him. If we're going to add a short point guard to tag team with Kemba, I would much, much, much rather it be Mo Williams

[MasterIchiro]

I trust Jameer more with the 2nd unit than Mo Williams.

[LofJ]

Even at 32 years old Jameer would be one the best backups in the league at point. Yeah he's short, but he can still play and at his age he's probably happy to come off the bench to prolong his career.

[mrknowitall215]

I trust Jameer more with the 2nd unit than Mo Williams.

That's understandable. They are very similar players with parallel production in their careers. I guess the familiarity that Clifford has with Nelson has it's edge that way

[Liver_Pooty]

He'll probably go to Miami along with every other half decent experienced vet.