WinCity wrote:KeithBoothfan wrote:WinCity wrote:
Dude, that is quite possibly the most delusional thing I have ever read posted here. I mean there have been, and continue to be some whoppers...but wow. To even suggest Taj would come to the meeting to listen to a scenario where he gets traded to god knows where, in order to bring in Melo, and be ok with it? Seriously dude?! Thats crosses the line from being team player and sacrificing, to being totally suicidal.
It is complete and total fantasy my friend. Stop it. If Taj is at the meeting the only logical conclusion is the FO gave him a promise he was not getting traded. Period. Imagine the fallout if Taj was asked to come to the meeting and then found out as a result of said meeting he was getting traded, and went to the media with his complaints. That would ruin the FO's rep.
The only logical conclusion here is the FO has done the math on what they can offer Melo, while keeping Taj, and are ok going forward with that number.
Agree to disagree. I said it was far-fetched. Just given how long the Melo-to-Bulls rumors have been swirling, I don't think it's completely unfathomable. You do. OK, fair enough.
Dude that is beyond far-fetched.
Whats far-fetched is Melo taking drastically/significantly less than his max to come here.
A player coming to a meeting offering his head on a platter to bring in another player to essentially replace him on the team!? That is is beyond reasonable. Not only from the point of view of the player i.e. Taj but also the FO. GarPax are not nearly Machiavellian enough to ask Taj to do that, let alone find leverage to induce him to do so. They have never shown such character traits before.
I understand what you're saying and you may well be right, but give the hyperbole a rest, please. I can assure you my feet are both firmly planted on the ground. I'll elaborate a bit on my point, and perhaps you'll accept that I am in fact sane. If not, that's OK too. The degree of my sanity certainly depends on who you ask.
Look, NBA players have egos and pride the size of Jupiter, I understand this. But I think they're also generally aware of the pecking order and where they are on it (with exceptions for dopes like JR Smith). Taj Gibson must realize that he is probably a less important player to NBA teams than Carmelo Anthony. That being the case, I simply think it's
possible, knowing what we know about Taj and the fact that he seems like an "adult" by NBA player standards, that the front office could approach him to discuss the Melo situation with him, let him know he's extremely highly valued by the team, but that if it comes down brass tacks and the Bulls conclude that the only way they can land Carmelo Anthony is to trade Taj, they'd have to do it. They might then say, "but look, what we want to accomplish is to keep you while getting Melo here. We think we can pull it off, but it won't be easy." In
that specific context, I can see Taj participating in the recruitment even without a 100% ironclad promise he won't be moved. And in that context, Taj wouldn't be rushing to the media with stories of betrayal after the fact.
But I'll grant your point - our front office has not earned the benefit of the doubt that they could manage this situation as adroitly as I just described. Riley, maybe. Spurs front office, maybe. I am generally supportive of GarPax, but I would agree that they haven't shown a touch this deft. Point taken.
If you want to insinuate that I'm high on acid, be my guest. I'm just suggesting the above is
possible. The totality of the circumstances gives me a bit of hope that they're playing a nice game of chess here. I stand ready to be totally wrong. It wouldn't be the first time or the hundreth and I'll get over it.
