Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67)

[MasterIchiro]

Which free agent is most likely to be overpaid?

Dave McMenamin, ESPN.com: Lance Stephenson. The guy does a lot of things right, don't get me wrong. He showed off his all-around game with five triple-doubles last season and also has become a much more efficient player by upping his shooting percentage to 49.1 percent after hitting just 33.3 percent of his shots as a rookie. But there was no denying that his mercurial personality and on-court antics caused some friction with the Pacers. He'll get a big deal because so many teams have money to spend this offseason, which will drive up his price if Indiana is to keep him, but he'll have a lot of growing up to do before he'll truly earn that cash that's coming his way.

I already said...Look at the scarcity at shooting guard in the NBA. Low supply SG + high demand for positional advantage at SG triggers inflation in prices. He's going to get overpaid and you're going to lose your bet. Plus teams have money to overpay him, same with Tyreke Evans. It's a sellers market.

[mrknowitall215]

Which free agent is most likely to be overpaid?

Dave McMenamin, ESPN.com: Lance Stephenson. The guy does a lot of things right, don't get me wrong. He showed off his all-around game with five triple-doubles last season and also has become a much more efficient player by upping his shooting percentage to 49.1 percent after hitting just 33.3 percent of his shots as a rookie. But there was no denying that his mercurial personality and on-court antics caused some friction with the Pacers. He'll get a big deal because so many teams have money to spend this offseason, which will drive up his price if Indiana is to keep him, but he'll have a lot of growing up to do before he'll truly earn that cash that's coming his way.

I already said...Look at the scarcity at shooting guard in the NBA. Low supply SG + high demand for positional advantage at SG triggers inflation in prices. He's going to get overpaid and you're going to lose your bet. Plus teams have money to overpay him, same with Tyreke Evans. It's a sellers market.

Don't leave out this part...

Can you really make him a franchise player? Stephenson could get $15 million a year, $5 million a year or anything in between. I really have no idea.

I'm extremely confident that teams are looking at Stephenson with 'BEWARE' sign stamped all over him. The players don't dictate the market, the teams do. I'll happily accept losing that bet if a team overpay for his services, because I'll get the last laugh when he become a contract that's a little over his pay grade that that said team will regret & wish to move in another year or so

[amcoolio]

Unlike Tyreke, Lance has improved every year. The guy shot 49% from the field last year while upping his assists and rebounding numbers...had 5 triple doubles last season, or in other words the same amount of triple doubles than the entire Bobcats franchise as a history over 10 years. He's 23, which means he probably won't be in his prime for another couple years, and if you can get a prime SG with elite defense, 50% from the field, 38% from 3, 18 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists, which is what he's projected at, with our market and coaching staff, you have to do it.

I'd say simply swapping Lance for Henderson adds at least 5 wins, which brings us to 47

[MasterIchiro]

Unlike Tyreke, Lance has improved every year. The guy shot 49% from the field last year while upping his assists and rebounding numbers...had 5 triple doubles last season, or in other words the same amount of triple doubles than the entire Bobcats franchise as a history over 10 years. He's 23, which means he probably won't be in his prime for another couple years, and if you can get a prime SG with elite defense, 50% from the field, 38% from 3, 18 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists, which is what he's projected at, with our market and coaching staff, you have to do it.

I'd say simply swapping Lance for Henderson adds at least 5 wins, which brings us to 47

I'm so winning my bet with Mr KIA

[Elden Payton]

adding 5 gives us 48!

Close to the magical 50.

[mrknowitall215]

I'm so winning my bet with Mr KIA

[amcoolio]

We'd be dumb not to offer 10 million a year. What amount of money do you think is an overpay though.

If Henderson is 6 million a year, Lance is worth at least 12 million just based on skillset and age.

[LofJ]

If we add Lance to the roster we're going to win 50 games, I'm certain of it. We'd very likely have HCA in the first round of the playoffs too.

[amcoolio]

He also has that star swagger (which I know could go either way, good or bad - so its a bit of a gamble) to the tune that if Jordan can sit him down and work with him he could make that Harden-OKC-to-HOU-like leap and become a primary scorer. Who knows? The Pacers were such a mess between George and Hibbert, and Vogel.

[mrknowitall215]

We'd be dumb not to offer 10 million a year. What amount of money do you think is an overpay though.

If Henderson is 6 million a year, Lance is worth at least 12 million just based on skillset and age.

Anything above $8 million is overpay considering leverage, but anything up to $10 million might be worth the risk if he continue to progress. In rhetoric, I'd say anything above $10.7 million annually is official overpay

'MasterIchiro' and I have a bet that Stephenson won't receive anything in excess of the $10 million range annually with me going the under and him taking the over. We'll see

[jakenc]

I'm betting that MasterIchiro will win that bet.

[Joest2003]

Im goin with the over. Lance is easily a 12 million player

[Liver_Pooty]

Pacers are showing lance a movie they made for him at midnight

[mrknowitall215]

Pacers are showing lance a movie they made for him at midnight

Does it involve him sitting courtside instead of the bench with his teammates?

[MasterIchiro]

Pacers are showing lance a movie they made for him at midnight

Does it involve him sitting courtside instead of the bench with his teammates?

The theme of the movie is "Lance you have major issues and character flaws, here's 8 million, no more than that. Please come back."

[mrknowitall215]

Pacers are showing lance a movie they made for him at midnight

Does it involve him sitting courtside instead of the bench with his teammates?

The theme of the movie is "Lance you have major issues and character flaws, here's 8 million, no more than that. Please come back."

I just don't see no way Stephenson returns to the Pacers when he pretty much was a loner in the locker room. I've read sources that state that the only person really in his corner in the organization is Larry Bird, who is one of the more powerful people of the franchise, but it can't be fun going to work in a setting like that

[MasterIchiro]

Does it involve him sitting courtside instead of the bench with his teammates?

The theme of the movie is "Lance you have major issues and character flaws, here's 8 million, no more than that. Please come back."

I just don't see no way Stephenson returns to the Pacers when he pretty much was a loner in the locker room. I've read sources that state that the only person really in his corner in the organization is Larry Bird, who is one of the more powerful people of the franchise, but it can't be fun going to work in a setting like that

Yeah the movie tribute to Lance Stephenson totally wreaks of a segue to a lowball offer /green font.

[mrknowitall215]

Yeah the movie tribute to Lance Stephenson totally wreaks of a segue to a lowball offer /green font.

Aye, no need to constantly ridicule me on my opinion of what sensible teams are going to offer him this offseason. We'll find out in a few weeks, if not sooner

[jakenc]

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[ARHornet]

Stephenson is definitely the most intriguing FA for me. Half of me loves him and the other half hates him.