Hornets Sign Lance Stephenson 3y/27.5 mil (p67)

[mrknowitall215]

Stephenson is definitely the most intriguing FA for me. Half of me loves him and the other half hates him.

His overall all-around talents for his size is intriguing enough to bite the bullet, but his skill level to the public eye is currently a bit overrated. The 'mindblowing' fiasco in the Heat series has only benefited him into a household name to become a more polarizing figure. However, he's still a middling efficiency rated player once people take off the blinders. I want him on the Hornets bad, but only to a certain extent, not all cost. He only averaged 14 points in that playoff series against the Heat in 40 minutes of play; and 13.8 points per game for the season; all the while posting a PER just below league average at 14.7. He's not necessarily the type of player that'll take over games via scoring often but his versatile attributes make him a player that any team should and would want at the wing position where it's so interchangeable

[MasterIchiro]

Yeah the movie tribute to Lance Stephenson totally wreaks of a segue to a lowball offer /green font.

Aye, no need to constantly ridicule me on my opinion of what sensible teams are going to offer him this offseason. We'll find out in a few weeks, if not sooner

I'm just teasing and we're not talking about what sensible teams will offer, we're talking about the amount he will sign for to join a team, sensible or not. You want him at a certain price and want to think we can get him at that price. The Pacers are going to set the market and it's not going to be your price. They made a tribute to the guy. Just go ahead and add your Hornets symbol on your profile. Wear the mark proud. You're about to get stung.

bzzzzzzzzzzzz

[Bassman]

I just hope he is interested in taking an open mind to other opportunities. Presuming Indiana is getting first crack at him, that is a good sign for the Pacers. But...unless he says yes immediately, we have a good shot. Melo is going to his team options first, placing the pressure back onto the Knicks. If Lance get's Indiana's offer first, it is either a max contract or a modest starting point with promises to match best offers.

It's more than the money Lance. You're going to get big $$$$...now be sure you are in the right place.

Come to player heaven, basketball heaven, the land of devoted fans and the greatest player ever as your boss.

[MasterIchiro]

I just hope he is interested in taking an open mind to other opportunities. Presuming Indiana is getting first crack at him, that is a good sign for the Pacers. But...unless he says yes immediately, we have a good shot. Melo is going to his team options first, placing the pressure back onto the Knicks. If Lance get's Indiana's offer first, it is either a max contract or a modest starting point with promises to match best offers.

It's more than the money Lance. You're going to get big $$$$...now be sure you are in the right place.

Come to player heaven, basketball heaven, the land of devoted fans and the greatest player ever as your boss.

Don't be nervous, we'll come in around 12 million per. That should be about as high as any other team will offer, so it will come down to situation. We have Kemba + Al + Cliff + MJ and lots of young players. The Pacers are tapped out.

[DY_nasty]

posting to restate how much I don't want this guy anywhere near my team because I don't think our future is that bleak and our fanbase that desperate

[MasterIchiro]

It will be tough to get Lance Stephenson from Pacers

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2014/06/3 ... om-pacers/

[amcoolio]

I just hope he is interested in taking an open mind to other opportunities. Presuming Indiana is getting first crack at him, that is a good sign for the Pacers. But...unless he says yes immediately, we have a good shot. Melo is going to his team options first, placing the pressure back onto the Knicks. If Lance get's Indiana's offer first, it is either a max contract or a modest starting point with promises to match best offers.

It's more than the money Lance. You're going to get big $$$$...now be sure you are in the right place.

Come to player heaven, basketball heaven, the land of devoted fans and the greatest player ever as your boss.

I just don't see how they can pay Lance max money or anything above 12M when Hibbert are George are already getting it, West is getting 12, and Hill is getting 8. Can you really see the Pacers going 10M+ into the luxury tax to keep Lance? They literally will not be able to do anything else and fill out their roster with Mullens types.

[MasterIchiro]

It will be tough to get Lance Stephenson from Pacers

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2014/06/3 ... om-pacers/

He ranks easiest to obtain

1)Deng/Ariza
2)Gordon Hayward
3)Chandler Parsons
4)Lance Stephenson

He ranks Lance as toughest to obtain.

He also said it's no secret the Hornets want to upgrade SF.

Surprise surprise.

[catch20two]

It will be tough to get Lance Stephenson from Pacers

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2014/06/3 ... om-pacers/

He ranks easiest to obtain

1)Deng/Ariza
2)Gordon Hayward
3)Chandler Parsons
4)Lance Stephenson

He ranks Lance as toughest to obtain.

He also said it's no secret the Hornets want to upgrade SF.

Surprise surprise.

According to you. Ain't no way Stephenson will be a tougher get than a RFA as a UFA. I'm listening to the link now. Of course he's going to be a tougher get than Deng/Ariza because nobody really want them.

[MasterIchiro]

It will be tough to get Lance Stephenson from Pacers

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2014/06/3 ... om-pacers/

He ranks easiest to obtain

1)Deng/Ariza
2)Gordon Hayward
3)Chandler Parsons
4)Lance Stephenson

He ranks Lance as toughest to obtain.

He also said it's no secret the Hornets want to upgrade SF.

Surprise surprise.

According to you. Ain't no way Stephenson will be a tougher get than a RFA as a UFA. I'm listening to the link now.

According to Sekou Smith.

[BeesWax]

It will be tough to get Lance Stephenson from Pacers

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2014/06/3 ... om-pacers/

He ranks easiest to obtain

1)Deng/Ariza
2)Gordon Hayward
3)Chandler Parsons
4)Lance Stephenson

He ranks Lance as toughest to obtain.

He also said it's no secret the Hornets want to upgrade SF.

Surprise surprise.

Well our biggest needs were:
upgrading backup PF- Done, assuming we resign McRoberts
upgrading backup PG- need but not a flashy talking point
Upgrading wing- Most important spot due to appeal, could mean Henderson or MKG go to bench

[Stun704]

It will be tough to get Lance Stephenson from Pacers

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2014/06/3 ... om-pacers/

He ranks easiest to obtain

1)Deng/Ariza
2)Gordon Hayward
3)Chandler Parsons
4)Lance Stephenson

He ranks Lance as toughest to obtain.

He also said it's no secret the Hornets want to upgrade SF.

Surprise surprise.

That dude is full of ****, first of all Deng isn't a clear upgrade

[BeesWax]

It will be tough to get Lance Stephenson from Pacers

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2014/06/3 ... om-pacers/

He ranks easiest to obtain

1)Deng/Ariza
2)Gordon Hayward
3)Chandler Parsons
4)Lance Stephenson

He ranks Lance as toughest to obtain.

He also said it's no secret the Hornets want to upgrade SF.

Surprise surprise.

That dude is full of ****, first of all Deng isn't a clear upgrade

If Deng costs more than 7 million he isn't worth the spot.

[catch20two]

He ranks easiest to obtain

1)Deng/Ariza
2)Gordon Hayward
3)Chandler Parsons
4)Lance Stephenson

He ranks Lance as toughest to obtain.

He also said it's no secret the Hornets want to upgrade SF.

Surprise surprise.

According to you. Ain't no way Stephenson will be a tougher get than a RFA as a UFA. I'm listening to the link now.

According to Sekou Smith.

I haven't gotten to the point where Sekou put it in that order. All he's saying is that the Pacers won't let Lance go easy. The same for Hayward with the Jazz and Suns wanting him. Both of those teams prolly got more cap space than us. And of course Parsons only become a easy get if the Rockets strike out on Melo. Stephenson is free game. You're putting words in Sekou mouth.

[predators]

I like him as a player and won't be pissed if we sign him but but I can't help thinking that throwing a ton of money at knucklehead\crazy person and having them play a large enough role that could be misinterpreted "as the man" rarely works out. So I won't lose any sleep if he ends up somewhere else.

I also think he ends up staying on the Pacers.

[ARHornet]

It will be tough to get Lance Stephenson from Pacers

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2014/06/3 ... om-pacers/

He ranks easiest to obtain

1)Deng/Ariza
2)Gordon Hayward
3)Chandler Parsons
4)Lance Stephenson

He ranks Lance as toughest to obtain.

He also said it's no secret the Hornets want to upgrade SF.

Surprise surprise.

If we upgrade SF and do nothing at SG I'm gonna be pretty frustrated.

I disagree with that list on pretty much all spots.

[MasterIchiro]

It will be tough to get Lance Stephenson from Pacers

http://charlotte.cbslocal.com/2014/06/3 ... om-pacers/

He ranks easiest to obtain

1)Deng/Ariza
2)Gordon Hayward
3)Chandler Parsons
4)Lance Stephenson

He ranks Lance as toughest to obtain.

He also said it's no secret the Hornets want to upgrade SF.

Surprise surprise.

If we upgrade SF and do nothing at SG I'm gonna be pretty frustrated.

I disagree with that list on pretty much all spots.

If it's true Parsons is our main target maybe we can get him right away and free up MKG for a sign & trade for Hayward to stay under cap.

PG-Kemba Walker/Jameer Nelson
SG-Gordon Hayward/PJ Hairston/Gary Neal
SF-Chandler Parsons/Gordon Hayward/Jeffrey Taylor
PF-Josh McRoberts/Cody Zeller/Noah Vonleh
C-Al Jefferson/Bismack Biyombo

[ARHornet]

He ranks easiest to obtain

1)Deng/Ariza
2)Gordon Hayward
3)Chandler Parsons
4)Lance Stephenson

He ranks Lance as toughest to obtain.

He also said it's no secret the Hornets want to upgrade SF.

Surprise surprise.

If we upgrade SF and do nothing at SG I'm gonna be pretty frustrated.

I disagree with that list on pretty much all spots.

If it's true Parsons is our main target maybe we can get him right away and free up MKG for a sign & trade for Hayward to stay under cap.

PG-Kemba Walker/Jameer Nelson
SG-Gordon Hayward/PJ Hairston/Gary Neal
SF-Chandler Parsons/Gordon Hayward/Jeffrey Taylor
PF-Josh McRoberts/Cody Zeller/Noah Vonleh
C-Al Jefferson/Bismack Biyombo

Clifford is good, but he can't perform magic. That is a horrible defensive team. Josh McRoberts is the 2nd best defender in the starting lineup.

[MasterIchiro]

If we upgrade SF and do nothing at SG I'm gonna be pretty frustrated.

I disagree with that list on pretty much all spots.

If it's true Parsons is our main target maybe we can get him right away and free up MKG for a sign & trade for Hayward to stay under cap.

PG-Kemba Walker/Jameer Nelson
SG-Gordon Hayward/PJ Hairston/Gary Neal
SF-Chandler Parsons/Gordon Hayward/Jeffrey Taylor
PF-Josh McRoberts/Cody Zeller/Noah Vonleh
C-Al Jefferson/Bismack Biyombo

Clifford is good, but he can't perform magic. That is a horrible defensive team. Josh McRoberts is the 2nd best defender in the starting lineup.

I don't think Hayward is a significant downgrade from Henderson's slow ass on the defensive end and I don't think Parsons is enough of a downgrade over MKG to not make up for it in offense. We play team defense. As an organization we might not place the same value on individual defense. Clifford brought us that luxury and we move into the new wave of NBA, passers and range shooters, playmakers, inside/outside offense, disciplined team defense. This MKG scare where we implode as a team is a hoax. It's the biggest hoax in all of sports. Yankees fans used to claim if they let Arod walk after he opted out, they couldn't win a world series without him even though they forgot they won 26 up to that point in 2008. That's the only bigger hoax I can think of.

[ARHornet]

If it's true Parsons is our main target maybe we can get him right away and free up MKG for a sign & trade for Hayward to stay under cap.

PG-Kemba Walker/Jameer Nelson
SG-Gordon Hayward/PJ Hairston/Gary Neal
SF-Chandler Parsons/Gordon Hayward/Jeffrey Taylor
PF-Josh McRoberts/Cody Zeller/Noah Vonleh
C-Al Jefferson/Bismack Biyombo

Clifford is good, but he can't perform magic. That is a horrible defensive team. Josh McRoberts is the 2nd best defender in the starting lineup.

I don't think Hayward is a significant downgrade from Henderson's slow ass on the defensive end and I don't think Parsons is enough of a downgrade over MKG to not make up for it in offense. We play team defense. As an organization we might not place the same value on individual defense. Clifford brought us that luxury and we move into the new wave of NBA, passers and range shooters, playmakers, inside/outside offense, disciplined team defense. This MKG scare where we implode as a team is a hoax. It's the biggest hoax in all of sports. Yankees fans used to claim if they let Arod walk after he opted out, they couldn't win a world series without him even though they forgot they won 26 up to that point in 2008. That's the only bigger hoax I can think of.

A bigger hoax would be that we can win with our only above average defender being an undersized point guard. Sure you could stop some teams. But who's guarding LeBron? Who's stopping Carmelo? You saw the playoffs this year. When MKG came out Miami did whatever they wanted. You can preach team defense all you want, but you can't just trot out a bunch of average to downright awful defenders and expect to succeed.