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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1741 » by Eoghan » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:22 am

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BrotherDave wrote:Jameer would need a time machine to be worth signing here. He's losing his athleticism/quickness more and more each year. He's not too far off from being black Ridnour at this point.

I bet he had a better year last year than Blake and Hinrich. Who do you want so I can see if I can critique it?

I don't really care about his stats. I don't want a little chucking PG to backup our little chucking PG.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1742 » by catch20two » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:26 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:Hopefully were on the phone with McRoberts agent at 12:01 sharp with an offer

Unless McBobby taking 4 mil or less on day 1 then his free agency is gonna be drawn out for at least a week.


I have leverage on McRoberts with Zeller + Vonleh, 2 high picks I'm invested in to the hilt and I want minutes for them. I start McRoberts off at 3 million and I don't present it until after I hear from Chandler Parsons.

And 1 everything except that Parsons part.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1743 » by catch20two » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:27 am

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BrotherDave wrote:Jameer would need a time machine to be worth signing here. He's losing his athleticism/quickness more and more each year. He's not too far off from being black Ridnour at this point.

I bet he had a better year last year than Blake and Hinrich. Who do you want so I can see if I can critique it?

I don't really care about his stats. I don't want a little chucking PG to backup our little chucking PG.

Our little chucking PG is the reason why we win. If he could play 48 minutes without getting tired I would love to see his little chucking ass stay on the floor.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1744 » by catch20two » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:29 am

And you still ain't give me a name BD.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1745 » by catch20two » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:31 am

Speaking of little chucking PGs, what's the chances we can get little Isaiah Thomas as our backup? I would pay up to 6 mil a year for 2 years for that little sucker.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1746 » by Sonrisen » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:35 am

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fatlever wrote:pj tucker might fool around and take MKG's job. he plays good defense, but he can also hit that corner 3.

Ha. Yea Cliff would have to foolishly fool around and do it. MKG should be safe in the starting lineup unless Melo Anthony is walkin thru that door.


I disagree. You cant guarantee a job to someone who is literally 1 dimensional. MKG is a great defender, but you win games by scoring more points than your opponent.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1747 » by JDR720 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:37 am

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fatlever wrote:pj tucker might fool around and take MKG's job. he plays good defense, but he can also hit that corner 3.

Ha. Yea Cliff would have to foolishly fool around and do it. MKG should be safe in the starting lineup unless Melo Anthony is walkin thru that door.


I disagree. You cant guarantee a job to someone who is literally 1 dimensional. MKG is a great defender, but you win games by scoring more points than your opponent.

but MKG averaged more PPG than PJ on a PER 36 mins basis and MKG stops opponents from scoring more than PJ does
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1748 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:38 am

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fatlever wrote:pj tucker might fool around and take MKG's job. he plays good defense, but he can also hit that corner 3.

Ha. Yea Cliff would have to foolishly fool around and do it. MKG should be safe in the starting lineup unless Melo Anthony is walkin thru that door.


I disagree. You cant guarantee a job to someone who is literally 1 dimensional. MKG is a great defender, but you win games by scoring more points than your opponent.


And no single individual defender is more valuable than a team who plays disciplined team defense. When MKG got injured it was really early in the year and Clifford had barely begun to coach his system.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1749 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:38 am

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catch20two wrote:Ha. Yea Cliff would have to foolishly fool around and do it. MKG should be safe in the starting lineup unless Melo Anthony is walkin thru that door.


I disagree. You cant guarantee a job to someone who is literally 1 dimensional. MKG is a great defender, but you win games by scoring more points than your opponent.

but MKG averaged more PPG than PJ on a PER 36 mins basis and MKG stops opponents from scoring more than PJ does


I think he might be referring to some posters saying that the only people who should come in and start over MKG are Carmelo and Lebron, which is amusing.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1750 » by Eoghan » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:39 am

catch20two wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
catch20two wrote:I bet he had a better year last year than Blake and Hinrich. Who do you want so I can see if I can critique it?

I don't really care about his stats. I don't want a little chucking PG to backup our little chucking PG.

Our little chucking PG is the reason why we win. If he could play 48 minutes without getting tired I would love to see his little chucking ass stay on the floor.

Our little chucking PG can beat his man off the dribble, and he still shoots us out of games enough. Nelson can't penetrate much any more. He's old and one dimensional enough to qualify as a role player for the Heat now.

catch20two wrote:And you still ain't give me a name BD.

A name for what? I was having comprehension problems.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1751 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:39 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
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Sonrisen wrote:
I disagree. You cant guarantee a job to someone who is literally 1 dimensional. MKG is a great defender, but you win games by scoring more points than your opponent.

but MKG averaged more PPG than PJ on a PER 36 mins basis and MKG stops opponents from scoring more than PJ does


I think he might be referring to some posters saying that the only people who should come in and start over MKG are Carmelo and Lebron, which is amusing.


The MKG love-dome provides entertainment for the whole family.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1752 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:41 am

BrotherDave wrote:
catch20two wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:I don't really care about his stats. I don't want a little chucking PG to backup our little chucking PG.

Our little chucking PG is the reason why we win. If he could play 48 minutes without getting tired I would love to see his little chucking ass stay on the floor.

Our little chucking PG can beat his man off the dribble, and he still shoots us out of games enough. Nelson can't penetrate much any more. He's old and one dimensional enough to qualify as a role player for the Heat now.

catch20two wrote:And you still ain't give me a name BD.

A name for what? I was having comprehension problems.


He wants you to choose what backup PG you would rather have so he can critique it I believe.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1753 » by catch20two » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:42 am

BrotherDave wrote:
catch20two wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:I don't really care about his stats. I don't want a little chucking PG to backup our little chucking PG.

Our little chucking PG is the reason why we win. If he could play 48 minutes without getting tired I would love to see his little chucking ass stay on the floor.

Our little chucking PG can beat his man off the dribble, and he still shoots us out of games enough. Nelson can't penetrate much any more. He's old and one dimensional enough to qualify as a role player for the Heat now.

catch20two wrote:And you still ain't give me a name BD.

A name for what? I was having comprehension problems.

I want a name on who you want as our backup PG and please be realistic and not sarcastic.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1754 » by catch20two » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:43 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
JDR720 wrote:but MKG averaged more PPG than PJ on a PER 36 mins basis and MKG stops opponents from scoring more than PJ does


I think he might be referring to some posters saying that the only people who should come in and start over MKG are Carmelo and Lebron, which is amusing.


The MKG love-dome provides entertainment for the whole family.

No top 10 defense with the MKG gun.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1755 » by Eoghan » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:46 am

Nando De Colo.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1756 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:46 am

catch20two wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
I think he might be referring to some posters saying that the only people who should come in and start over MKG are Carmelo and Lebron, which is amusing.


The MKG love-dome provides entertainment for the whole family.

No top 10 defense with the MKG gun.


If you ignore context. Clifford's team defense system was in it's infancy timed with when MKG went out. The defense improved as the year progressed.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1757 » by catch20two » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:47 am

BrotherDave wrote:Nando De Colo.

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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1758 » by catch20two » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:49 am

MasterIchiro wrote:If you ignore context. Clifford's team defense system was in it's infancy timed with when MKG went out. The defense improved as the year progressed.

There's no context to ignore. Our defense always got worst when he left the floor. That's context.
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1759 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:51 am

Not sure why Im so interested in it hurrying up and hitting midnight as if were going to sign someone right off the bat
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Re: 2014 Free Agency Thread 

Post#1760 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:57 am

Sometime shortly after midnight Tuesday, Lance Stephenson will be seated with his family and friends in a movie theater. The lights will go down and the 'Born Ready' life story will flash before Stephenson's eyes on the big screen.


Nice little read. http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nb ... /11805235/
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