Pacers to speak with CJ Miles

Post #1 » by **Grang33r** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 4:57 am

Per Fox Sports' Sam Amico.

Moooose · Post #2 » by **Moooose** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 5:32 am

Interesting. He's got this reputation for having some character issues since he was in Utah. Talented but I do not want someone probably messing up with Lance.

8305 · Post #3 » by **8305** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 10:17 am

Part of the backup plan for Lance leaving?

SmashMouthRod · Post #4 » by **SmashMouthRod** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:03 pm

He is a solid role player. May can be had on a cheap contract if Lance goes. I personally would like for a guy like this to backup Lance off the Pine. Hes a guy who can score.

8305 · Post #5 » by **8305** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:29 pm

SmashMouthRod wrote:He is a solid role player. May can be had on a cheap contract if Lance goes. I personally would like for a guy like this to backup Lance off the Pine. Hes a guy who can score.

i saw a game in 2012 when he got 20 on us in a half.

Post #6 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 3:39 pm

Moooose wrote:Interesting. He's got this reputation for having some character issues since he was in Utah. Talented but I do not want someone probably messing up with Lance.

Really? He was a perfect locker room guy the past couple years here in Cleveland. Had a good run last year, too. 6'6". More a SG, but can play some SF, too. Would be an upgrade on Rasual Butler and would likely mean that Butler was gone, unless we lose Lance, too.

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Post #7 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 5:29 pm

@WojYahooNBA: In pursuit of shooting, Pacers pushing to use $2.1M exception on free agent guard C.J. Miles, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

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Post #8 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 5:34 pm

EXCEPT.....

Woj is wrong, I believe. We used the BAE on Watson last year. And as it's only a Bi Annual exception, cannot use it this year. So, it'd have to be part of MLE.

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ardthomp · Post #9 » by **ardthomp** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 5:37 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:@WojYahooNBA: In pursuit of shooting, Pacers pushing to use $2.1M exception on free agent guard C.J. Miles, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

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Guess the Pacers forgot they have shooting sitting on the bench...

SmashMouthRod · Post #10 » by **SmashMouthRod** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 7:11 pm

Moooose wrote:Interesting. He's got this reputation for having some character issues since he was in Utah. Talented but I do not want someone probably messing up with Lance.

Now days an Athlete is considered to have character issues if he has one disagreement with a coach or player in a locker room. Or has one incident where he does something (ie: partying too much; or ) that the media or fans doesnt think he should. Dont know how much I buy that accusation. I wish the media and fans would get past the fact that in sports youre not fans of choir boys. They never have been and never will be.

Wizop · Post #11 » by **Wizop** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 7:42 pm

this feels like a possible Turner replacement. Solo, and Butler if resigned, will get minutes at the 3 but we could use another 2.

Post #12 » by **pacers33granger** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 8:33 pm

Would love Miles here. Wanted him before free agency started so this is awesome to hear. However, I'd rather spend the money on Lance if need be (hopefully not). Also kind of worrying that we're getting yet another non-elite scorer. I know our scoring sucks, but I don't really think the answer is a bunch of guys like him, though I like the idea of the move still.

Post #13 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 8:57 pm

Wizop wrote:this feels like a possible Turner replacement. Solo, and Butler if resigned, will get minutes at the 3 but we could use another 2.

Well, it also means $1m less we can give Lance. I can't see us signing CJ if we re-sign Lance. Barring a big giveback from Lance.

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Post #14 » by **pacers33granger** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 9:07 pm

Jodie Meeks just got 3/19 from the Pistons so Miles's agent would have to be stupid to even consider anything less than the full MLE which I wouldn't want to give him.

Post #15 » by **Jake0890** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 9:57 pm

Jodie Meeks got WHAT?!?

I can't say I'm surprised that the Pistons did that though. They are the team that gave Josh Smith $56 million dollars after all.

basketballwacko2 · Post #16 » by **basketballwacko2** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 10:10 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:EXCEPT.....

Woj is wrong, I believe. We used the BAE on Watson last year. And as it's only a Bi Annual exception, cannot use it this year. So, it'd have to be part of MLE.

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Can the MLE be split between two guys?

basketballwacko2 · Post #17 » by **basketballwacko2** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 10:13 pm

Jake0890 wrote:Jodie Meeks got WHAT?!?

I can't say I'm surprised that the Pistons did that though. They are the team that gave Josh Smith $56 million dollars after all.

Yeah they've made some bone head moves in signings.

Post #18 » by **pacers33granger** » Tue Jul 1, 2014 10:22 pm

basketballwacko2 wrote:
Jake0890 wrote:Jodie Meeks got WHAT?!?

I can't say I'm surprised that the Pistons did that though. They are the team that gave Josh Smith $56 million dollars after all.

Yeah they've made some bone head moves in signings.

Yeah I can understand if the last year is a team option or some of the contract is unguaranteed though. If SVG's vision is to make certain he gets a couple of high level shooters to maximize Drummond's game and take the next two seasons to develop him then build a contender it might not be too bad.

Say the last season is a team option, you take two seasons of developing guys, move Smith and Monroe (I assume they won't pay him the max), sign a couple other shooters (they gave Cartier Martin a deal with a PO next season too), show Drummond how good he can be, and go from there, I guess it's not too bad, albeit still a massive overpay.

Nonetheless it doesn't bode well for us (or the rest of the league). I wish Lance took the likely 7-8 mil deal we offered him at midnight, but now it's going to look like quite a lowball compared to Meeks' deal.

Post #19 » by **Jake0890** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 2:04 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/CandaceDBuckner/status/484113568787206145[/tweet]

Meeting with CJ tonight for dinner. Maybe a deal in place soon?

But if we're bringing back Rasual Butler, why sign CJ? And if we have to wait to sign Lavoy until Lance makes a decision, it seems weird to rush into a deal with CJ.

Moooose · Post #20 » by **Moooose** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 3:09 am

SmashMouthRod wrote:
Moooose wrote:Interesting. He's got this reputation for having some character issues since he was in Utah. Talented but I do not want someone probably messing up with Lance.

Now days an Athlete is considered to have character issues if he has one disagreement with a coach or player in a locker room. Or has one incident where he does something (ie: partying too much; or ) that the media or fans doesnt think he should. Dont know how much I buy that accusation. I wish the media and fans would get past the fact that in sports youre not fans of choir boys. They never have been and never will be.

That could be the incident, like being the odd person in the locker room, it was in his rookie or 2nd year I think. I cannot remember the case exactly. Probably more matured right now as Scoot said he's a good locker room guy now in Cleveland. Probably a case of having the right teammates I guess.