ImageImageImage

2014 Official FA Thread 2

Moderators: bwgood77, lilfishi22, Qwigglez

Revived
RealGM
Posts: 37,451
And1: 22,229
Joined: Feb 17, 2011

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#881 » by Revived » Tue Jul 1, 2014 8:29 am

Kerrsed wrote:Lebron is in Brazil to watch the game tomorrow, so the only moves that will be made are by teams that cant get Lebron.

Source??
Revived
RealGM
Posts: 37,451
And1: 22,229
Joined: Feb 17, 2011

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#882 » by Revived » Tue Jul 1, 2014 8:38 am

DarkHawk wrote:Not sure if this was posted but I found it via a BSOTS article.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
gary washburn @GwashburnGlobe · 48m

Among those teams set to meet with Paul: #suns, #rockets and #mavericks
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Which Paul?
gaspar
Suns Forum Stat Stuffer
Posts: 6,761
And1: 5,479
Joined: Jun 21, 2009

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#883 » by gaspar » Tue Jul 1, 2014 8:39 am

SF88 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:Lebron is in Brazil to watch the game tomorrow, so the only moves that will be made are by teams that cant get Lebron.

Source??

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/483815947384672256[/tweet][tweet]https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/483819854558806016[/tweet]
gaspar
Suns Forum Stat Stuffer
Posts: 6,761
And1: 5,479
Joined: Jun 21, 2009

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#884 » by gaspar » Tue Jul 1, 2014 8:39 am

SF88 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:Not sure if this was posted but I found it via a BSOTS article.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
gary washburn @GwashburnGlobe · 48m

Among those teams set to meet with Paul: #suns, #rockets and #mavericks
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Which Paul?

LeBron's agent.
User avatar
Nando88
Veteran
Posts: 2,568
And1: 256
Joined: Feb 06, 2009

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#885 » by Nando88 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 8:43 am

Going to sleep. Hope I wake up to something awesome lol


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
User avatar
RaisingArizona
RealGM
Posts: 15,788
And1: 7,669
Joined: Apr 23, 2009
 

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#886 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Jul 1, 2014 8:44 am

Saberestar wrote:
Report: LeBron James' agent to meet with Suns, Rockets, Mavs

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas ... ckets-mavs


Image
Image
Revived
RealGM
Posts: 37,451
And1: 22,229
Joined: Feb 17, 2011

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#887 » by Revived » Tue Jul 1, 2014 8:44 am

gaspar wrote:
SF88 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:Not sure if this was posted but I found it via a BSOTS article.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
gary washburn @GwashburnGlobe · 48m

Among those teams set to meet with Paul: #suns, #rockets and #mavericks
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Which Paul?

LeBron's agent.

That's weird cause Arizona Sports used that tweet to show that the Suns are interested in Pau Gasol.

http://arizonasports.com/41/1746531/Rep ... -Pau-Gasol

:lol:
User avatar
RaisingArizona
RealGM
Posts: 15,788
And1: 7,669
Joined: Apr 23, 2009
 

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#888 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Jul 1, 2014 8:45 am

SF88 wrote:
gaspar wrote:
SF88 wrote:Which Paul?

LeBron's agent.

That's weird cause Arizona Sports used that tweet to show that the Suns are interested in Pau Gasol.

http://arizonasports.com/41/1746531/Rep ... -Pau-Gasol

:lol:

Washburn's tweet refers to Rich Paul aka LeBron's & Bledsoe's agent, not a misspelling of Pau.
Image
Revived
RealGM
Posts: 37,451
And1: 22,229
Joined: Feb 17, 2011

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#889 » by Revived » Tue Jul 1, 2014 9:01 am

ginobiliflops wrote:
SF88 wrote:
gaspar wrote:LeBron's agent.

That's weird cause Arizona Sports used that tweet to show that the Suns are interested in Pau Gasol.

http://arizonasports.com/41/1746531/Rep ... -Pau-Gasol

:lol:

Washburn's tweet refers to Rich Paul aka LeBron's & Bledsoe's agent, not a misspelling of Pau.

So looks like Arizona Sports messed up.
User avatar
bwgood77
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 98,149
And1: 61,003
Joined: Feb 06, 2009
Location: Austin
Contact:
   

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#890 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 9:53 am

gaspar wrote:For Spencer Hawes fans:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BA_Turner/status/483844216015966209[/tweet]


Doubt he gets that much. But for what he does, if teams need that type of player, he should be making more than Frye.
User avatar
bwgood77
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 98,149
And1: 61,003
Joined: Feb 06, 2009
Location: Austin
Contact:
   

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#891 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 9:55 am

matt131 wrote:
sunsfan1313 wrote:
NaturalBuns wrote:Didn't someone say lebron is in Brazil?
McD said 24-48hr wait period.

Forget it lebron is staying in Miami

Where did that whole wait period thing come from?


McD just doesn't want to lose out on some other key FA moves if LeBron takes a million years to get back to us. Pretty much, if he doesn't give us at least a 'maybe,' McD will move on and improve our team in other ways. It's been mentioned in articles and radio shows (sorry, no links at the moment).


There will be few, if any free agent moves, except possibly minor ones, until after LeBron makes his decision.
User avatar
bwgood77
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 98,149
And1: 61,003
Joined: Feb 06, 2009
Location: Austin
Contact:
   

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#892 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 10:10 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski/status/483828209478557696[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/APkrawczynski/status/483828414303191041[/tweet]
asudevil
Analyst
Posts: 3,246
And1: 689
Joined: Apr 29, 2004

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#893 » by asudevil » Tue Jul 1, 2014 10:35 am

SF88 wrote:
NaturalBuns wrote:
SF88 wrote:He really isn't that good. Plus he's not the greatest teammate either apparently.


He's like 20
For a 20-21 year old he puts up monster numbers his potential can be amazing.

Idk I hate giving that much money to potential. That's just me. I understand that's probably a terrible business strategy in sports.

Irving's attitude rubs me the wrong way too. Then there's his reliability with injury issues.


Irving is 22. Wall dictated the market when he signed his max extension last year. I didnt think the kid was that good either, and he has a history of missing games due to injury. I expected Irving to get the max. Bledsoe....i could easily see him pulling $12mil per season now.
Saberestar
RealGM
Posts: 22,359
And1: 16,996
Joined: May 21, 2010

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#894 » by Saberestar » Tue Jul 1, 2014 11:03 am

It is an incredible and unlikely plan for the Suns to get megastars LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony to leave their teams.
Once it does not happen, then what?

Eric Bledsoe becomes their most important and perplexing free-agent pursuit.

Anthony already has laid out a free-agency circuit that does not include Phoenix. James is leaving initial meetings to his agent, Rich Paul, which at least gives the Suns a chance to have the discussion as they talk about his other major free-agency client, Bledsoe.
Bledsoe is the best free-agent point guard in a market full of spenders — and lean on point guards. The list of Bledsoe's competition starts with Kyle Lowry and then drops to the likes of Isaiah Thomas, Shaun Livingston and Greivis Vasquez.

Bledsoe will get an offer for eight-figure averages, but his value is uncertain when it gets too far north of that. R
egardless, Bledsoe is a 24-year-old asset for the Suns' future who they can control, rather than losing him.
Bledsoe could leave for nothing as a restricted free agent if they did not match an offer, or would bring the Suns below-value returns if the team executed a sign-and-trade.
The decisions to match offer sheets or negotiate contracts first on Bledsoe and P.J. Tucker, also a restricted free agent, are also to the Suns' advantage in sequencing the free-agent process. They can go over the salary cap to keep the players if they have used their space on others, like the James-Anthony or James-Chris Bosh dream scenarios.
It would be well worth it to teeter into the luxury tax for players and a franchise step of that magnitude. What the Suns have to weigh is how steep a price makes sense for older veteran free agents such as Pau Gasol or Luol Deng to join a younger team.

Gasol already is linked to four teams not named Phoenix. The Suns' interest in Deng could be tied to how high Tucker's price tag gets — but the Suns also have to worry about Deng's recent health history and whether a system player could thrive in the Suns' open style.

Utah restricted free agent Gordon Hayward is tied to Phoenix and Boston because the coaches both used to have him — Hornacek as a Jazz assistant and Brad Stevens in college at Butler. Players are unable to sign an offer sheet until July 10, and then their original team has three days to match the offer, as Utah plans to do with Hayward.
Such a move could tie up the Suns' money and flexibility while other players commit or sign, especially with most top players picking destinations during the signing moratorium.

The Suns had a tricky decision on Bledsoe in October when he was eligible for an extension. They would have sacrificed some of this summer's salary-cap space had they signed him before his first season as a starter, but they also might have secured him at a more affordable price. Golden State did that when it signed Stephen Curry to a four-year, $44 million deal before he became an All-NBA second-team guard.

Dallas, after trading Jose Calderon, could be a Bledsoe suitor, but owner Mark Cuban has stated the Mavericks will not offer a maximum deal. The Los Angeles Lakers have two ex-Suns point guards with vastly different questions (Steve Nash for age, Kendall Marshall for ability) and could be a Bledsoe player, but they will explore James and Anthony, too.

There is no shortage of teams with significant cap space, but few beyond those three teams would sign a high-priced point guard, except maybe Milwaukee or Detroit to play with (or instead of) their Brandons (Knight and Jennings).

The Suns' stated priority is to keep Bledsoe, Tucker and Channing Frye, although the latter looks more difficult with all the connections in Golden State and Damian Lillard stating Frye as his preference in Portland, Frye's adopted hometown.
The Suns' last major free-agent signing was Nash. The next one might not happen this offseason. After stirring the masses with the James idea, trying to bring the old gang back for another try might bring a tepid response.
It would make them huge players to trade for Kevin Love or another available star in February — or sign a major free agent next summer
.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/n ... /11823417/
Gorilla Warfare
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,787
And1: 2,325
Joined: Jun 18, 2008
   

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#895 » by Gorilla Warfare » Tue Jul 1, 2014 12:21 pm

Carmelo doesn't have Phoenix in his plans.... Until LeBron shows interest. Same with Love.

Sent from my SM-G900T using RealGM Forums mobile app
ImNotMcDiSwear
General Manager
Posts: 8,287
And1: 6,411
Joined: Dec 14, 2013
 

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#896 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Jul 1, 2014 12:48 pm

Coro's article makes me optimistic. Glad we're keeping the focus on the long-term and not killing ourselves to compete ASAP.

I'd wondered if perhaps we didn't put our best offer before the Wolves in order to maintain cap space for this move on LBJ. I wrote many times during the draft process that Warren would be the best draftee to put next to Love.

Time is on our side, imo.
charley barkles
Senior
Posts: 510
And1: 213
Joined: Jun 30, 2009

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#897 » by charley barkles » Tue Jul 1, 2014 1:06 pm

Getting Melo would feel very similar to getting Barkley back in the day to me...

"He's selfish. A ball-hog. Don't want him here even though he's good."

I think people would love him before the season is over, especially when we are a legit contender. He's never had a TEAM like the suns to play with, except for when he was at Syracuse and for team USA. He fit in fine at both those places, and they won.

His game actually kind of reminds me of Barkley too, offensively at least. They just back guys down and turn around and shoot. They'll go by their guy and throw it down because they are stronger. They can step out and hit the 3. Heck, he is even 2nd fiddle compared to LeBron/Jordan!

At first, I didn't want him. But now, I think he could be our version of Barkley... And I'm on board! (Not likely to happen).


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums mobile app
Sunsdeuce
Head Coach
Posts: 6,522
And1: 3,090
Joined: Jan 22, 2012
       

2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#898 » by Sunsdeuce » Tue Jul 1, 2014 1:18 pm

[quote="charley barkles"]Getting Melo would feel very similar to getting Barkley back in the day to me...

"He's selfish. A ball-hog. Don't want him here even though he's good."

I think people would love him before the season is over, especially when we are a legit contender. He's never had a TEAM like the suns to play with, except for when he was at Syracuse and for team USA. He fit in fine at both those places, and they won.

His game actually kind of reminds me of Barkley too, offensively at least. They just back guys down and turn around and shoot. They'll go by their guy and throw it down because they are stronger. They can step out and hit the 3. Heck, he is even 2nd fiddle compared to LeBron/Jordan!

At first, I didn't want him. But now, I think he could be our version of Barkley... And I'm on board! (Not likely to happen).
Melo reminds u of Barkley? Huh. They are nothing alike. Barkley was a 25 and 12 player basically his whole career. Melo can only dream of that. They are nothing alike!! Barkley was one of the toughest sob to ever play.

Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums mobile app


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM Forums
I am such a lucky NBA fan. 8647 My favorite team went from the most greedy and racist owner to the most ego driven dumbass owner in all of sports fdt.

Only a fan of Arizona teams!
Cardinals
Dbacks
Suns
User avatar
King4Day
RealGM
Posts: 13,613
And1: 9,822
Joined: Dec 11, 2010
Location: Pandora
         

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#899 » by King4Day » Tue Jul 1, 2014 1:53 pm

Is it true that LeBron will be waiting to meet with teams until this weekend? That's quite some time to wait.
"Sometimes, the dragon wins" #RallyTheValley
PassWarden
Junior
Posts: 400
And1: 211
Joined: Jan 27, 2014
Location: Mesa, AZ
       

Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#900 » by PassWarden » Tue Jul 1, 2014 1:55 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Is it true that LeBron will be waiting to meet with teams until this weekend? That's quite some time to wait.


I haven't seen anything to that effect, link?

Return to Phoenix Suns