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2014 Official FA Thread 2

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Post#961 » by JMac1 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 5:40 pm

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Now let's just hope Lowry signs with Toronto (heck, with anyone other than Miami).
Riley's options would be pretty slim. Would LeBron find Deng and Gasol enough of an improvement to stay with the Heat?


Lebron's "I'll take my time" approach could be the death of the Heat chances to sign quality FA's. No FA with sense is going to wait on Lebron when teams are offering them big money right away. If you snooze you lose!!


Word is that LeBron is giving Riley a few days to see if he can do something to improve the team in free agency, otherwise he is out of there.

I do not think Riley has enough room to get it done. Dallas, Cleveland, Houston, Phoenix, Lakers. Those have to be the most likely spots. So here are my odds. Odds that Miami can put together a roster that says "stay." 30%. Suns chances among the rest of the teams even with everyone else. So 1 in 5. So, 15% chance over all.


No, not quite. The percentage should not be based solely on the numbers of teams pursuing him, but, it should be based on their roster and other things like city appeal, future going forward, chance of winning it all etc. I think that improves our chances over the others.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#962 » by RaisingArizona » Tue Jul 1, 2014 5:41 pm

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TheXgasm wrote:Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 2m
Mavs all in on pursuit of Carmelo Anthony and Dirk will be star face of Dallas' recruiting team Wednesday when its pitch follows Rockets

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m
Don't forget Mavs and Dirk already have good idea of ballpark on deal given fact sides discussed extension last month before June 30 buzzer


uh oh! Dirk Nowitzki is pitching to Melo?

Dirk is just abut done. I am so tired of hearing this Dallas garbage. Dirk,Chandler and Fat Felton :lol:


Yeah- that's not too enticing. Something tells me we have a better than good chance of making this happen. Call me :crazy:
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#963 » by King4Day » Tue Jul 1, 2014 5:44 pm

Where's ray ray? I want need my daily dose of false hope today :)
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#964 » by matt131 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 5:53 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Where's ray ray? I want need my daily dose of false hope today :)


Haha same here; I'm stuck renewing my license at the freaking DMV and I'm dying for some exciting news :P


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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#965 » by matt131 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 5:55 pm

@WojYahooNBA: Suns pushing to re-sign Channing Frye, sources tell Yahoo. After opting-out of deal, Frye's surveying market, including Cavs, Warriors.

Pushing? I don't want a deal with Frye to mess with our ability to sign LeBron+FA of his choice


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Post#966 » by harshey1388 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 5:55 pm

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Suns pushing to re-sign Channing Frye, sources tell Yahoo. After opting-out of deal, Frye's surveying market, including Cavs, Warriors.
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Post#967 » by harshey1388 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 5:59 pm

matt131 wrote:@WojYahooNBA: Suns pushing to re-sign Channing Frye, sources tell Yahoo. After opting-out of deal, Frye's surveying market, including Cavs, Warriors.

Pushing? I don't want a deal with Frye to mess with our ability to sign LeBron+FA of his choice


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I don't think we'll reach for Frye. I feel like this is all a ploy. I'd be fine with having him back but not if it hurts the financials, and I'm sure McD is looking at it the same way.
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Post#968 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:02 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:I was thinking, if we struck out on the big name free agents and were pretty much coming back as the same team, would anyone be for signing Paul Pierce to a big one year contract? Just giving him an offer that he couldn't refuse and no one else would consider? He could go a long way toward replacing a Tucker or Frye (or both) loss and would obviously start over either if they were here.

And if it vaulted us into the playoffs, especially as a fairly high seed and made us more competitive, it might make big names consider us in the future (or Love in 2015) if they think they can replicate or do more than Paul Pierce did.


We can't land a difference maker, I don't see why we'd add PP to our crowded wing spot. I think we sign Tucker and between him Goodwin, CusMo, Green and hopefully Warren that ought to consume all the wing minutes.

I think we will be pleasantly surprised by Warren... If he makes it through the Trade Talks. Now if we had to send off a few in a deal, Pierce would be welcomed by me. Old Schooler with no love for his opposition.

Furthermore, i think Frye is as good as gone now that Portland has entered the ring... And I hope we get on the horn to Milw and rescue Illysova. We won by team ball last yr, and can do it again this yr with a healthy squad. But we have to upgrade the PF spot.


I think Pierce would be a pretty good vet role model, especially for a guy like Warren to learn the intricacies of the NBA game. But I wouldn't mind not doing it and sticking with what we have, but if we lost Tucker, and didn't want Green to start at 3, but be a guy off the bench, he'd definitely upgrade the team and give us that veteran presence that may be missing if we happen to lose Frye.

I wouldn't mind Ilyasova. He'd be better than McRoberts, and maybe better than Hawes if he got back to two years ago form.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#969 » by JMac1 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:04 pm

DarkHawk wrote:Where's ray ray? I want need my daily dose of false hope today :)


How about this. An insider told me that Lebron is no dummy and he doesn't give two shakes of a mule's ass what people think!
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Post#970 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:07 pm

TheXgasm wrote:Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 2m
Mavs all in on pursuit of Carmelo Anthony and Dirk will be star face of Dallas' recruiting team Wednesday when its pitch follows Rockets

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Don't forget Mavs and Dirk already have good idea of ballpark on deal given fact sides discussed extension last month before June 30 buzzer


Yeah, I'm sure they have a plan to dump Wright and/or Felton's expirings if need be to get him. They'd be pretty unnecessary. Especially if Melo isn't keen on playing another season with Felton. But I guess they'd need a pg unless Monta could take over that role.
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Post#971 » by Qwigglez » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:09 pm

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TheXgasm wrote:Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 2m
Mavs all in on pursuit of Carmelo Anthony and Dirk will be star face of Dallas' recruiting team Wednesday when its pitch follows Rockets

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m
Don't forget Mavs and Dirk already have good idea of ballpark on deal given fact sides discussed extension last month before June 30 buzzer


uh oh! Dirk Nowitzki is pitching to Melo?

Dirk is just abut done. I am so tired of hearing this Dallas garbage. Dirk,Chandler and Fat Felton :lol:


It's such trash. How is Dallas any better of a market than Phoenix? They always covet the best free agents, even the second tier free agents and they always strike out. Nobody wants to go there...
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#972 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:10 pm

I'm sure the push to re-sign Frye is NOT a ploy. He was worth a lot to us last year for his ability to spread the floor and his length on defense. We can beat the MLE which, without our help, other contenders can't. And if they want him, they should pay up.

It's easy to forget how good your own players are. A lot of Frye-bashing on this board. He doesn't deserve it. I'd rather re-sign him than pay for Deng, Hawes, Ariza, Gasol, etc. Of those, he's the least likely to interfere with player development, and the most likely to maintain his value of the course of a contract.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#973 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:17 pm

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TheXgasm wrote:Monta Ellis, Stephen Jackson and Michael Redd were all drafted in the 40's

Again, I was thinking of starting bigs, not guards and wings.


No, I gotcha. I just hadn't seen your post when I posted that. I honestly can't think of many, or really any, bigs that made an impact from the second round.


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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#974 » by King4Day » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:17 pm

JMac1 wrote:
DarkHawk wrote:Where's ray ray? I want need my daily dose of false hope today :)


How about this. An insider told me that Lebron is no dummy and he doesn't give two shakes of a mule's ass what people think!


I supposed it'll suffice for now :)
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#975 » by King4Day » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:21 pm

cosmofizzo wrote:I'm sure the push to re-sign Frye is NOT a ploy. He was worth a lot to us last year for his ability to spread the floor and his length on defense. We can beat the MLE which, without our help, other contenders can't. And if they want him, they should pay up.

It's easy to forget how good your own players are. A lot of Frye-bashing on this board. He doesn't deserve it. I'd rather re-sign him than pay for Deng, Hawes, Ariza, Gasol, etc. Of those, he's the least likely to interfere with player development, and the most likely to maintain his value of the course of a contract.


Not to mention it's possible he gives us a discount.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#976 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:22 pm

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JMac1 wrote:
TheXgasm wrote:Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 2m
Mavs all in on pursuit of Carmelo Anthony and Dirk will be star face of Dallas' recruiting team Wednesday when its pitch follows Rockets

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 1m
Don't forget Mavs and Dirk already have good idea of ballpark on deal given fact sides discussed extension last month before June 30 buzzer


uh oh! Dirk Nowitzki is pitching to Melo?

Dirk is just abut done. I am so tired of hearing this Dallas garbage. Dirk,Chandler and Fat Felton :lol:


It's such trash. How is Dallas any better of a market than Phoenix? They always covet the best free agents, even the second tier free agents and they always strike out. Nobody wants to go there...


They usually get a visit though. I think players wouldn't mind playing for Cuban. Probably a little more appealing to most than Sarver.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#977 » by matt131 » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:23 pm

@ESPNSteinLine: RT @Chris_Broussard: Hearing that Luol Deng will not take significantly less than his market value to join Heat

Dang. But is he really enough to make the Heat more attractive?


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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#978 » by PassWarden » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:24 pm

matt131 wrote:@ESPNSteinLine: RT @Chris_Broussard: Hearing that Luol Deng will not take significantly less than his market value to join Heat

Dang. But is he really enough to make the Heat more attractive?


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Re-read that brother. It says he will NOT take significantly less to join the Heat.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#979 » by Revived » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:24 pm

I just hope we don't overpay for Frye cause other teams are willing to do so. We really need to move on.
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Re: 2014 Official FA Thread 2 

Post#980 » by King4Day » Tue Jul 1, 2014 6:24 pm

Pretty crazy that, as another poster mentioned, that teams are in a holding pattern right now. You likely won't see big deals until the LeBron/Bosh situation is resolved.
Or until Rich Paul starts telling teams they are eliminated. The next two weeks should be real exciting with James/Bosh, Melo, and then Love. To see where everyone will go.
I really hope there's an "oh ****" moment where a player goes somewhere completely unexpected.

Even if it's Deng to Charlotte or something.
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