Melo 12: RealGM takes over the United Center

Indomitable · Post #1261 » by **Indomitable** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:49 am

TyrusRose2425 wrote:I wonder why Jimmy wasn't invited or if it wasn't seen as necessary. He's another likeable personality that could have helped

Jimmy is not considered core.

Rose
Noah
Taj
Core players.

kdapiton · Post #1262 » by **kdapiton** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:49 am

chifan1798 wrote:How in the hell does this thread have 63 pages in 8 hours????

Because it hurts so good

Wont PerDont · Post #1263 » by **Wont PerDont** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:49 am

nykgeneralmanager wrote:
nomorezorro wrote:
i think you're underlooking the degree to which chicago can counter any knicks demands if the preferred route is a sign and trade - 'we have trades lined up to open up x amount of cap space and you'll lose melo without getting any assets,' that kind of thing.

beyond that, you keep talking about the leverage between new york and chicago and i think you're ignoring the leverage melo has if he decides he wants to play in chicago. if melo says 'hey, i'm going to straight up sign in chicago for a contract beginning at 17 million' then it puts the pressure on the knicks to salvage something out of it. this is where it differs from that lowry story - if lowry says 'i am not playing in toronto under any circumstances,' then masai can't say 'i won't trade him because i want to resign him!!'

i basically don't think there's any way to know how the sign and trade situation will actually play out, because both sides obviously have some degree of leverage. it's just weird to be very certain that the knicks can salvage anything better than picks at this point in the process

Yeah I agree, can't really argue much there. If the Bulls do claim they have deals lined up, the only deal that would actually create the room is for Taj, which seems unlikely at this point. Maybe Phil calls that bluff, maybe he doesn't.

The biggest factor is definitely how much money Melo will accept. If he is truly looking for $20+ million as a starting salary, then the Bulls would pretty much have to work out a sign and trade and couldn't really make that threat to Phil. Like you said, if he's willing to accept something in the $17 million range, that would change things.

Nothing really matters until we know Melo's contract demands. So I'll head back to the Knicks board "where I belong", I'm not looking to incite anything here of course.

Just for your reference...

Most people here agree with you regarding the fact that the Knicks have some leverage in the S&T situation and that the Bulls will have to give up real assets if they want to keep Taj, but your incessant arguing of the point with those who don't is why you are getting the reception you are. You aren't going to convince everyone, so stop trying! And you even mentioned in a past post your frustration at saying the same thing 20 times...STOP THEN! Bring something else to the table as your work on that topic is DONE!

gmoney411 · Post #1264 » by **gmoney411** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:50 am

Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:I don't think Melo is terribly serious about Houston, Dallas, or Los Angeles.

Chicago or New York. That's it.

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Dallas and LA probably not but Houston has a lot of talent there and they can offer him the pretty much the full max by trading Lin.

DaGreatLewdini · Post #1265 » by **DaGreatLewdini** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:50 am

chifan1798 wrote:How in the hell does this thread have 63 pages in 8 hours????

We bout dat life fam!!!!

IndianPlaya17 · Post #1266 » by **IndianPlaya17** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:51 am

If I remember correctly in 2010, LeBron, Wade and Bosh all had dinner together in Chicago before deciding to join forces in Miami.

r1terrell23 · Post #1267 » by **r1terrell23** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:51 am

jc23 wrote:wow...cause david aldridge said he was on his way to houston an hour ago.

Carmelo we've seem to have encountered an unforseen problem with the plane and will need to stop and have dinner.

chifan1798 · Post #1268 » by **chifan1798** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:52 am

I can't go through this entire thread, but what's the new news? Melo still in town eating, when he should be on his way to Texas?

Post #1269 » by **Payt10** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:52 am

IndianPlaya17 wrote:If I remember correctly in 2010, LeBron, Wade and Bosh all had dinner together in Chicago before deciding to join forces in Miami.

If Jo instagrams a pic of him, melo, and DRose it's over. 8-)

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #1270 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:52 am

ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Oh snap, he's still in town?? Okay I hope he's not at dinner with only Thibs, Pax, Gar. Hopefully some players are there to make it less...old.

Also what is Lala doing? Maybe her and Pippens wife are doing some shopping downtown. The possibilities. Eeek.
No homo

I swear one of the tweets said that Rose and Noah are there.

Indomitable · Post #1271 » by **Indomitable** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:53 am

RememberLu wrote:
Lewnilli0605 wrote:This is semi OT, but I find it hilarious that the Knicks board of all boards on this site is calling us delusional. The nerve of those guys.

two large fanbases, I'm sure there's lots of delusion to go around

They make us look sane.

KeithBoothfan · Post #1272 » by **KeithBoothfan** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:54 am

Has anyone pointed out what a relief it is that Skiles isn't part of the team anymore? I'm sure glad he's not there trying to instigate staring matches with Carmelo right now.

Vintage · Post #1273 » by **Vintage** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:54 am

Bulls are not going to be lucky enough to sign Carmelo for 4/60. That's a lot of money left on the table. It doesn't matter if he is set up for life. He's turning down tens and tens of millions of dollars to sign with Chicago? For what? A slim chance at beating Miami? Why not take a bit more of a pay cut and sign with Miami if winning is truly the most important thing.

Or resign with New York for max money

Jo Jo English · Post #1274 » by **Jo Jo English** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:54 am

Chitownbulls wrote:ALRIGHT! Now for the final push....

SEND IN THE LUVABULLS!!!!!!!!!

Nah.

I'm thinking a surprise 1-on-1 brief talk with Tracy McGrady before he heads to the airport tonight.

Magilla_Gorilla · Post #1275 » by **Magilla_Gorilla** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:54 am

gmoney411 wrote:
Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:I don't think Melo is terribly serious about Houston, Dallas, or Los Angeles.

Chicago or New York. That's it.

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Dallas and LA probably not but Houston has a lot of talent there and they can offer him the pretty much the full max by trading Lin.

No they can't. Will take more than just trading Lin.

jc23 · Post #1276 » by **jc23** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:54 am

Droseisthe1 wrote:
chifan1798 wrote:How in the hell does this thread have 63 pages in 8 hours????

We thirsty

ha, my initial reaction as well :party:

RememberLu · Post #1277 » by **RememberLu** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:54 am

Indomitable wrote:
RememberLu wrote:
Lewnilli0605 wrote:This is semi OT, but I find it hilarious that the Knicks board of all boards on this site is calling us delusional. The nerve of those guys.

two large fanbases, I'm sure there's lots of delusion to go around

They make us look sane.

A lot of them do seem hell bent on being relevant this year when I think it would serve them better to tank a year

It would be a big blow to their ego if Melo chooses us over them I guess

Shill · Post #1278 » by **Shill** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:54 am

gmoney411 wrote:
Shill4Tyrus24 wrote:I don't think Melo is terribly serious about Houston, Dallas, or Los Angeles.

Chicago or New York. That's it.

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Dallas and LA probably not but Houston has a lot of talent there and they can offer him the pretty much the full max by trading Lin.

Houston is a terrible basketball fit.

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Indomitable · Post #1279 » by **Indomitable** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:56 am

r1terrell23 wrote:
jc23 wrote:wow...cause david aldridge said he was on his way to houston an hour ago.

Carmelo we've seem to have encountered an unforseen problem with the plane and will need to stop and have dinner.

Someone put Thibs face on the kid

ChiCitySPORTS#1 · Post #1280 » by **ChiCitySPORTS#1** » Wed Jul 2, 2014 12:56 am

Magilla_Gorilla wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Oh snap, he's still in town?? Okay I hope he's not at dinner with only Thibs, Pax, Gar. Hopefully some players are there to make it less...old.

Also what is Lala doing? Maybe her and Pippens wife are doing some shopping downtown. The possibilities. Eeek.
No homo

I swear one of the tweets said that Rose and Noah are there.

Yeah I just saw.

Que the Rose Noah photoshop of the empty chair with Wade and Bosh