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LobosJordan wrote:Chi wrote:Why do the Rockets even WANT Melo?
That GM runs them like a 10 year old playing NBA2K...
Melo is absolutely the last thing they need on that roster.
They don't.
They want LeBron.
Chi wrote:LobosJordan wrote:Hasn't gun violence been like decreasing dramatically over the past few years in Chicago?
No.
Rerisen wrote:DuckIII wrote:RememberLu wrote:still boggles my mind why Knicks fans would even want Phil to pay him the super max
it's like they don't want to lose in the short term, win in the long term
they'd rather win in the short term and lose out in the long
1. If I were a Knicks fan, I'd want Melo to take a pretty heavy discount. I'd want Phil to reboot the team. They are finally at a place where they can do that. But then again, I'm not what you'd call Anthony's biggest fan. I don't believe in him as a franchise cornerstone you can build around. Its a little different in Chicago because of the moves we made, and the existing cast that seems to fit him well. But I'd never build a team around Carmelo Anthony as the starting point.
2. That said, won't they still have a buttload of capspace next year even if they do max him out?
To that point:If the Knicks gave Anthony a maximum contract, he'd be owed $25.3 million for the 2015-16 season. The roster could change, but here's where the Knicks would stand based on current contracts for the summer of 2015:
Anthony $25.3 million
Jose Calderon $7.4 million
J.R. Smith (likely opt-in) $6.4 million
Pablo Prigioni $1.7 million
Tim Hardaway Jr. $1.3 million
1st-round draft pick and six minimum salaries: $5 million
Total = $47.1 million; Projected cap space: About $18 million.
Enter the Bulls with this sign-and-trade scenario. They send Carlos Boozer, Mike Dunleavy, Tony Snell and the nonguaranteed contracts of Ronnie Brewer, Mike James and Lou Amundson to New York for Anthony and Smith. In a separate deal, the Bulls could trade Anthony Randolph for Prigioni. Throw in a future first-round pick if it helps. Boozer, Dunleavy, Randolph and Snell are under contract for one more season, which leaves the Knicks with this group on the books:
Calderon $7.4 million
Hardaway $1.3 million
1st-round draft pick and nine minimum salaries: $4.8 million
Total = $13.5 million. Projected cap space: More than $50 million in a summer when the free agent list could include Kevin Durant, Kevin Love, LaMarcus Aldridge, Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap, among others. The Knicks also get to keep their own first-rounder in 2015. Which is a better scenario for Phil Jackson? -Daily Herald
Chi wrote:LobosJordan wrote:Hasn't gun violence been like decreasing dramatically over the past few years in Chicago?
No.
Michael Jackson wrote:Chi wrote:LobosJordan wrote:Hasn't gun violence been like decreasing dramatically over the past few years in Chicago?
No.
It is way down from the 80's which was insane. When Benji got shot it was I think like 1300 cases that year. Then it got a lil better but we are still the highest in the country.
ikeziskash wrote:Has anyone done a comparison of Chicago taxes vs. NY Taxes?
Eyeballs wrote:Chi wrote:LobosJordan wrote:Hasn't gun violence been like decreasing dramatically over the past few years in Chicago?
No.
Or maybe yes. 2014 is the least murderous year in Chicago in 50 years.
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20140701 ... police-say
Chi wrote:LobosJordan wrote:Chi wrote:Why do the Rockets even WANT Melo?
That GM runs them like a 10 year old playing NBA2K...
Melo is absolutely the last thing they need on that roster.
They don't.
They want LeBron.
You do know that Melo is in Texas to talk about signing with the Rockets today, right?
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Magilla_Gorilla wrote:DRoseCantStop wrote:aboogie wrote:Slim thug at it again first Dwight now Melo lol
https://twitter.com/slimthugga/status/4 ... 8950937600
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https://twitter.com/slimthugga/status/4 ... 8533730306
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The fact 'the galleria' is one of his selling points is all that needs to be said.
Chicago has Michigan Avenue you horses ass.
Chi wrote:Michael Jackson wrote:Chi wrote:
No.
It is way down from the 80's which was insane. When Benji got shot it was I think like 1300 cases that year. Then it got a lil better but we are still the highest in the country.
Oh yes the 80's. The good old days when Chicago would give out "accurate" numbers of shootings/murders in the city.
thejet1711 wrote:Proven_Winner wrote:Slim Thug needs to go get a life. Nobody even talks about freaking Houston. He makes it sound like Houston is like a clean place or something.
Don't want your kids living in Chiraq- Well we've had multiple successful people and our like the 2nd or 3rd biggest city. The biggest person I've heard from Houston Beyonce.
It's cold- Well it's hot as hell in Houston and Melo's from NY he don't care about the cold.
We got a big mall- Well guess what we do to and we have multiple ones plus navy pier plus the Sear Tower.
This guy is a straight up joke.
If I'm an athlete, I look at Houston and think there must be something wrong behind the scenes there. Every year it seems they go after the big fish, reel in one or two..or three. And what do you know - they can't pass the first round?
Not only that, they are very disloyal to their players - publicly stating they'd ship Harden away a year after grabbing him, throwing all the money in the world at Asik and Lin and casting them off. Hell, they have Lin's number given away already. It's pathetic.
Compare that to the team atmosphere the Bulls surely presented yesterday (and have since Thibs arrived) and it's a no-brainer.
Eyeballs wrote:Chi wrote:LobosJordan wrote:Hasn't gun violence been like decreasing dramatically over the past few years in Chicago?
No.
Or maybe yes. 2014 is the least murderous year in Chicago in 50 years.
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20140701 ... police-say
JayKnicKz11 wrote:Magilla_Gorilla wrote:DRoseCantStop wrote:
The fact 'the galleria' is one of his selling points is all that needs to be said.
Chicago has Michigan Avenue you horses ass.
NYC has Fifth Ave
otwok wrote:They are going to pitch a "Big 5" to Melo. Melo, Howard, Parsons, Harden and another big time free agent (most likely Lowry) if Melo gives them a verbal. They also have a deal lined up with Philly to take Lin off their hands.
Scottie Pippen's response to whom he would pick for his running mate, Michael or LeBron: "That's a dumbass question. I've never done anything with LeBron. I wouldn't take LeBron to the movies."
LobosJordan wrote:Eyeballs wrote:Chi wrote:
No.
Or maybe yes. 2014 is the least murderous year in Chicago in 50 years.
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20140701 ... police-say
I knew it. I could have sword I heard it on the news. It's still high, but it's decreasing which is good.
fleet wrote:coldfish wrote:Knicks fans need to keep the capspace scenario in mind. Chicago isn't going to give up significantly more than Gibson and Dunleavey. There is a top cap on the value Chicago will send out. Giving up significantly more than that's foolish.
If Melo demands it and NY demands it, then screw them both. Lance Stephenson here we come.
The key point here. The Bulls have other options. No way they have a gun to their head, even if they love the idea of Melo. The Bulls have already indicated they have limits. Its not Melo or bust for the Bulls.