Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew

[jmajew]

That's good stuff. But my question is what do you all think of Melo as a fit for your team? To those of us on the outside it appears defense is your biggest flaw, offensively you re set as it. I'm not sure how Melo fits with Harden, Parsons, and Howard? I would think you could target Lowry and Gasol and role with Lowry, Harden, Parsons, Gasol, and Howard.

The Rockets can get Melo and then use Parsons to fill another need. They can offer Melo around $20MM per year after trading Lin and a few other contracts and then they can shop Parsons around for guys like Lowry, Milsap or whoever they believe will fill a need. Getting Melo is likely only one of two big additions that the Rockets plan on trying to make this offseason.

I assume you miss the part of the big 5 including Parsons.

[gmoney411]

Jeremy Lin has 15 million guaranteed and the Rockets have to get rid of him just as the Bulls do Boozers 16.8. I don't know why your 'Sham' would think its any different.

Lin's cap number is only $8.33MM which makes it easier to move. Then you have to throw in that the Rockets essentially have $8-$12MM to mess around with after potentially signing Melo because that is what Parsons will likely get on the open market. They can essentially spend about $28-32MM getting Melo and another player.

He didn't say cap number - he said g'teed salary.[/quote]

[Magilla_Gorilla]

That's good stuff. But my question is what do you all think of Melo as a fit for your team? To those of us on the outside it appears defense is your biggest flaw, offensively you re set as it. I'm not sure how Melo fits with Harden, Parsons, and Howard? I would think you could target Lowry and Gasol and role with Lowry, Harden, Parsons, Gasol, and Howard.

The fit is excellent. People claim Kevin Love is the perfect fit for Houston, as a stretch four. I counter that Melo has a nearly identical skillset to Love and is just as good a stretch four for what we are doing, albeit offers less rebounding. You are essentially taking a 54 win team from last year, subtracting a sub par Jeremy Lin, a little used Omer Asik, and replacing Terrence Jones in the starting lineup with Carmelo Anthony. To me, that is a win all the way around.

Regarding defense, the masses have convinced themselves the Rockets were some terrible defensive team. Rockets were 13th in defensive rating last year with forcing turnovers and defensive rebounding as the biggest hinderence to the rating. FG% and allowing free throws were actually among the best in the league.

This whole offseason people keep spouting off basketball rhetoric about egos and what not. These guys want to win, not get 25 shots a game

Have you met Dwight Howard?

[gmoney411]

Jeremy Lin has 15 million guaranteed and the Rockets have to get rid of him just as the Bulls do Boozers 16.8. I don't know why your 'Sham' would think its any different.

Lin's cap number is only $8.33MM which makes it easier to move. Then you have to throw in that the Rockets essentially have $8-$12MM to mess around with after potentially signing Melo because that is what Parsons will likely get on the open market. They can essentially spend about $28-32MM getting Melo and another player.

He didn't say cap number - he said g'teed salary.[/quote]

But the cap number matters a lot. Especially when you factor in that Lin is so much more marketable than Boozer. It's much easier to get rid of Lin than Boozer.

[bad knees]

This is from our "Sham", who probabky knows the cap better than anyone outside of Larry Coon:


Anyway, happy hunting

Jeremy Lin has 15 million guaranteed and the Rockets have to get rid of him just as the Bulls do Boozers 16.8. I don't know why your 'Sham' would think its any different.[/quote]

I just can't see Dolan approving an S&T with the Rockets, especially one that allows them to build a superteam, after the Lin fiasco. I see Dolan blowing a gasket and putting his foot down: NO, NOT WITH THAT MOREY A--HOLE!

[gmoney411]

That's good stuff. But my question is what do you all think of Melo as a fit for your team? To those of us on the outside it appears defense is your biggest flaw, offensively you re set as it. I'm not sure how Melo fits with Harden, Parsons, and Howard? I would think you could target Lowry and Gasol and role with Lowry, Harden, Parsons, Gasol, and Howard.

The Rockets can get Melo and then use Parsons to fill another need. They can offer Melo around $20MM per year after trading Lin and a few other contracts and then they can shop Parsons around for guys like Lowry, Milsap or whoever they believe will fill a need. Getting Melo is likely only one of two big additions that the Rockets plan on trying to make this offseason.

I assume you miss the part of the big 5 including Parsons.

I did. I have no idea how they can pull that off

[LarsV8]

Jeremy Lin has 15 million guaranteed and the Rockets have to get rid of him just as the Bulls do Boozers 16.8. I don't know why your 'Sham' would think its any different.

The Bulls don't have a Sam Hinkie like the Rockets do.

I mean seriously. They are posting Melo pics wearing Lin's freaking number and on Lowry's doorstep at midnight July 1st. He is already gone.

[Payt10]

Lol at Big 5 being Parsons and "some other guy to be named later".

Could it be Rondo?

Now that would be a good move.

Rondo and a solid PF would make them a better team than redundant scorers.

Rondo would be terrible on that team with Melo and Harden. All 3 need the ball to be effective, and there is only one ball. I could see that ending in disaster.

[ingvald]

The only advantage the Bulls MAY have is any relationship developed between Jo and Pipp over the last couple of months. Any presentation given by any team at these meetings may screw up a deal but I don't see Melo being swayed by the posters or media guides. I think he already knows what he's going to do.

When I read the stuff about the Houston pitch, it sounds like how the Bulls approached it in 2010. I honestly think Houston and Dallas are late to the game. Forget LA, they don't even have a coach yet.

Its Bulls or Knicks, imo.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Jeremy Lin has 15 million guaranteed and the Rockets have to get rid of him just as the Bulls do Boozers 16.8. I don't know why your 'Sham' would think its any different.

Lin's cap number is only $8.33MM which makes it easier to move. Then you have to throw in that the Rockets essentially have $8-$12MM to mess around with after potentially signing Melo because that is what Parsons will likely get on the open market. They can essentially spend about $28-32MM getting Melo and another player.

He didn't say cap number - he said g'teed salary.

But the cap number matters a lot. Especially when you factor in that Lin is so much more marketable than Boozer. It's much easier to get rid of Lin than Boozer.[/quote]

But its not what we're talking about.

[BullsFTW]

That's good stuff. But my question is what do you all think of Melo as a fit for your team? To those of us on the outside it appears defense is your biggest flaw, offensively you re set as it. I'm not sure how Melo fits with Harden, Parsons, and Howard? I would think you could target Lowry and Gasol and role with Lowry, Harden, Parsons, Gasol, and Howard.

The fit is excellent. People claim Kevin Love is the perfect fit for Houston, as a stretch four. I counter that Melo has a nearly identical skillset to Love and is just as good a stretch four for what we are doing, albeit offers less rebounding. You are essentially taking a 54 win team from last year, subtracting a sub par Jeremy Lin, a little used Omer Asik, and replacing Terrence Jones in the starting lineup with Carmelo Anthony. To me, that is a win all the way around.

Regarding defense, the masses have convinced themselves the Rockets were some terrible defensive team. Rockets were 13th in defensive rating last year with forcing turnovers and defensive rebounding as the biggest hinderence to the rating. FG% and allowing free throws were actually among the best in the league.

This whole offseason people keep spouting off basketball rhetoric about egos and what not. These guys want to win, not get 25 shots a game

With all due respect, are you that intimated about the Bulls landing Melo, that you come in the Bulls board?

I mean no offense man, but no one in this board cares. You should discuss this in the Rockets board.

[Madison]

The only advantage the Bulls MAY have is any relationship developed between Jo and Pipp over the last couple of months. Any presentation given by any team at these meetings may screw up a deal but I don't see Melo being swayed by the posters or media guides. I think he already knows what he's going to do.

When I read the stuff about the Houston pitch, it sounds like how the Bulls approached it in 2010. I honestly think Houston and Dallas are late to the game. Forget LA, they don't even have a coach yet.

Its Bulls or Knicks, imo.

Not having a coach could be part of the pitch. In other words, Lakers might ask Melo who he'd like to be the coach and give him a say in the hiring process.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Jeremy Lin has 15 million guaranteed and the Rockets have to get rid of him just as the Bulls do Boozers 16.8. I don't know why your 'Sham' would think its any different.

The Bulls don't have a Sam Hinkie like the Rockets do.

I mean seriously. They are posting Melo pics wearing Lin's freaking number and on Lowry's doorstep at midnight July 1st. He is already gone.

As is Boozer. So what else you got?

[ingvald]

Jeremy Lin has 15 million guaranteed and the Rockets have to get rid of him just as the Bulls do Boozers 16.8. I don't know why your 'Sham' would think its any different.

The Bulls don't have a Sam Hinkie like the Rockets do.

I mean seriously. They are posting Melo pics wearing Lin's freaking number and on Lowry's doorstep at midnight July 1st. He is already gone.

Forgive my ignorance of the Rockets- how would a guy like Deng fit in? I've been of the mind that Melo's a redundant skill set to Harden, sort of like Asik and Howard.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

With all due respect, are you that intimated about the Bulls landing Melo, that you come in the Bulls board?

I mean no offense man, but no one in this board cares. You should discuss this in the Rockets board.

There is no one else on the Rockets board.

[Shill]

Could it be Rondo?

Now that would be a good move.

Rondo and a solid PF would make them a better team than redundant scorers.

Rondo would be terrible on that team with Melo and Harden. All 3 need the ball to be effective, and there is only one ball. I could see that ending in disaster.

I was talking about Rondo instead of Melo.

Something like:

C Howard
PF Stretch 4
SF Parsons
SG Harden
PG Rondo

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Not sure how to take it

[Payt10]

Lol @ Knicks and Rockets fans showing up in our Melo thread. Sounds like they're starting to get nervous.

[Shill]

With all due respect, are you that intimated about the Bulls landing Melo, that you come in the Bulls board?

I mean no offense man, but no one in this board cares. You should discuss this in the Rockets board.

There is no one else on the Rockets board.

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[Chi]

New York Knicks Phil Jackson doesn't want Carlos Boozer but some in front office think trading for Boozer make sense (Source: Chris Herring)

Well... It's a start.