Melo #13: Believe in Joakim Noah & Crew

[WinCity]

Am I getting this right: one of the main pillars of Houston's pitch to Melo is that they are going to bring in Lebron, yet Lebron won't take any calls in free agency?

No the Rockets pitch to Carmelo is having a "Big 5". Lowry/Harden/Parsons/Melo/D12. This is the real reason why Lowry has yet to sign back in Toronto as of now. Morey's pitch is one of we may be in the west but we will be able to put one of the best starting 5's on a NBA floor in league history. This info is not being reported by BSPN but it is the truth. My gut tells me Melo stays in New York or comes to Houston. Morey is a great salesman.

League history? That's way over the top.

Also I don't see there being enough ball to go around. Lowry, Harden and Melo are daily ball dominant.

[MisterRoy]

Am I getting this right: one of the main pillars of Houston's pitch to Melo is that they are going to bring in Lebron, yet Lebron won't take any calls in free agency?

No the Rockets pitch to Carmelo is having a "Big 5". Lowry/Harden/Parsons/Melo/D12. This is the real reason why Lowry has yet to sign back in Toronto as of now. Morey's pitch is one of we may be in the west but we will be able to put one of the best starting 5's on a NBA floor in league history. This info is not being reported by BSPN but it is the truth. My gut tells me Melo stays in New York or comes to Houston. Morey is a great salesman.

If they can pull that off- it'd truly be formidable.

Any idea how that would work salary wise?

You are biting the bait. Don't do it.

[KeithBoothfan]

The chatter that Chicago "offered 15mil and Melo won't take it" may be true in a strictly literal sense. The meeting went on for a long time. I'm sure that at some point the Bulls said "this (15mil) is what we can offer you right now, after amnestying/dumping Boozer and other minor moves we can make. We'd be thrilled if you would sign at that number, but we know you're worth more than that. Now, let's discuss how we can open up more space...(discussion continues)"

The discussion undoubtedly included contingencies and alternate scenarios. If the entire contract/financial discussion was "we're offering $15mil, take it or leave it", I'd be astounded.

[gf2020hotmail]

Am I getting this right: one of the main pillars of Houston's pitch to Melo is that they are going to bring in Lebron, yet Lebron won't take any calls in free agency?

No the Rockets pitch to Carmelo is having a "Big 5". Lowry/Harden/Parsons/Melo/D12. This is the real reason why Lowry has yet to sign back in Toronto as of now. Morey's pitch is one of we may be in the west but we will be able to put one of the best starting 5's on a NBA floor in league history. This info is not being reported by BSPN but it is the truth. My gut tells me Melo stays in New York or comes to Houston. Morey is a great salesman.

How do the Rockets have the caproom to sign both Melo and Lowry? My understanding is that it's a either/or scenario.

[Chi]

New York Knicks Carmelo Anthony wants both Jimmy Butler and Taj Gibson to stay even if it means him signing for less. (Source: Frank Isola)

New York Knicks Carmelo Anthony is reluctant to spend another year rebuilding. 1st time Anthony didn't make playoffs. (Source: Frank Isola)

That first tweet means a lot of things, if it's true. If true, this FA tour should be done already basically. If we can keep the entiiire core together, and he's going to be willing to take less money...well, all of our dreams have come true. Let's do it.

This guy gets it.

[blumeany]

When I see all these Knicks and Rockets fans in our thread, I'm all like...

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

Not sure how to take it

Broussard didn't say that for one. That report is based off of a twitter account that claimed Broussard said that.

Regardless, I still think we need to be closer to 18 million

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Am I getting this right: one of the main pillars of Houston's pitch to Melo is that they are going to bring in Lebron, yet Lebron won't take any calls in free agency?

No the Rockets pitch to Carmelo is having a "Big 5". Lowry/Harden/Parsons/Melo/D12. This is the real reason why Lowry has yet to sign back in Toronto as of now. Morey's pitch is one of we may be in the west but we will be able to put one of the best starting 5's on an NBA floor in league history. This info is not being reported by BSPN but it is the truth.

Harden & Dwight cost 36.1
Parson's cap hold is 1.76

Thats 37.86

Assuming they can trade everyone else on the roster for 0 in returning salary the cap holds for 9 spots will take up another 4.5 million.

Thats 42.36

Thats gives Houston a little under 21 million to split between Lowry and Melo. Wonder what each would sign for.

[ag3]

I have no idea if Isola is full of crap on this - but I want to mouth-kiss him anyways.

Out of all the NY media guys, I trust Isola the most for some reason.

That being said he did say couple days back he doesn't see Melo leaving the money

OMG. I DID NOT JUST READ THIS!!!


Isola is a Daily News hack.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Am I getting this right: one of the main pillars of Houston's pitch to Melo is that they are going to bring in Lebron, yet Lebron won't take any calls in free agency?

No the Rockets pitch to Carmelo is having a "Big 5". Lowry/Harden/Parsons/Melo/D12. This is the real reason why Lowry has yet to sign back in Toronto as of now. Morey's pitch is one of we may be in the west but we will be able to put one of the best starting 5's on a NBA floor in league history. This info is not being reported by BSPN but it is the truth. My gut tells me Melo stays in New York or comes to Houston. Morey is a great salesman.

How do the Rockets have the caproom to sign both Melo and Lowry? My understanding is that it's a either/or scenario.

The Rockets, if they get rid of everybody except Dwight, Harden, and Parsons cap hold could have about 21-22 million in cap space that Melo & Lowry would split.

Should be noted that Lowry has never made more than 6.5 million in a season and would seem unlikely to look to take a big discount over what the Raptors or others would pay.

[WinCity]

Why are people talking about Fifth Ave like we dont have the Mag Mile?

Everybody knows this is fly over country. All we have are haystacks and cornfields.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

I have no idea if Isola is full of crap on this - but I want to mouth-kiss him anyways.

Out of all the NY media guys, I trust Isola the most for some reason.

That being said he did say couple days back he doesn't see Melo leaving the money

OMG. I DID NOT JUST READ THAT!!!

Here's an idea - post with substance or don't waste our time having to scroll past your posts.

[MisterRoy]

No the Rockets pitch to Carmelo is having a "Big 5". Lowry/Harden/Parsons/Melo/D12. This is the real reason why Lowry has yet to sign back in Toronto as of now. Morey's pitch is one of we may be in the west but we will be able to put one of the best starting 5's on a NBA floor in league history. This info is not being reported by BSPN but it is the truth. My gut tells me Melo stays in New York or comes to Houston. Morey is a great salesman.

How do the Rockets have the caproom to sign both Melo and Lowry? My understanding is that it's a either/or scenario.

The Rockets, if they get rid of everybody except Dwight, Harden, and Parsons cap hold could have about 21-22 million in cap space that Melo & Lowry would split.

And no defense.

[El Ridda]

The chatter that Chicago "offered 15mil and Melo won't take it" may be true in a strictly literal sense. The meeting went on for a long time. I'm sure that at some point the Bulls said "this (15mil) is what we can offer you right now, after amnestying/dumping Boozer and other minor moves we can make. We'd be thrilled if you would sign at that number, but we know you're worth more than that. Now, let's discuss how we can open up more space...(discussion continues)"

The discussion undoubtedly included contingencies and alternate scenarios. If the entire contract/financial discussion was "we're offering $15mil, take it or leave it", I'd be astounded.

Nothing to add here. Jump wanted to bump this as one of the most sane things I have read in the past 13 Melo threads.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Half way there boys. lets power through and get past Thread 13 by the time our Australian brethren start their overnight shift.

[Land Rover]

Why are people talking about Fifth Ave like we dont have the Mag Mile?

And who gives a crap about some touristy shopping area???

[RememberLu]

Why are people talking about Fifth Ave like we dont have the Mag Mile?

And who gives a crap about some touristy shopping area???

I wouldn't even go to the mall if I had Melo's money, I'd just hire some people and say "here, go buy some things I might like"

[HTowns Finest]

Am I getting this right: one of the main pillars of Houston's pitch to Melo is that they are going to bring in Lebron, yet Lebron won't take any calls in free agency?

No the Rockets pitch to Carmelo is having a "Big 5". Lowry/Harden/Parsons/Melo/D12. This is the real reason why Lowry has yet to sign back in Toronto as of now. Morey's pitch is one of we may be in the west but we will be able to put one of the best starting 5's on a NBA floor in league history. This info is not being reported by BSPN but it is the truth. My gut tells me Melo stays in New York or comes to Houston. Morey is a great salesman.

If they can pull that off- it'd truly be formidable.

Any idea how that would work salary wise?

Dwight- 21.44
Harden- 14.69
Melo- 20?
Lowry-
Parsons-
cap holds 7x.507
That leaves $3.5M in cap, $17.3 to the tax apron. right?

Dude I honestly don't know how they could pull it off either, but if anyone could it would be Morey. He is a good GM that is ultra aggressive and Let Alexander has said many times he is not afraid of the luxury tax.

[WinCity]

The chatter that Chicago "offered 15mil and Melo won't take it" may be true in a strictly literal sense. The meeting went on for a long time. I'm sure that at some point the Bulls said "this (15mil) is what we can offer you right now, after amnestying/dumping Boozer and other minor moves we can make. We'd be thrilled if you would sign at that number, but we know you're worth more than that. Now, let's discuss how we can open up more space...(discussion continues)"

The discussion undoubtedly included contingencies and alternate scenarios. If the entire contract/financial discussion was "we're offering $15mil, take it or leave it", I'd be astounded.

Well put. You have certainly recovered nicely from your Taj-kamikaze theory

[ingvald]

Isola is a Daily News hack.

I was waiting for that. I'm taking any "news" with a huge grain of salt, one way or another. Let's remember that "journalists" are all pumping stuff to generate hits and reads. Nothing more.